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Warhammer Fantasy: Divided Loyalties - an Advisor's Quest

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Nerdasaurus Rex said:
Besides, I think the Eonir embrace of Ulric is genuine. He exists, He is powerful, He advocates traits that are highly valued by the Forestborn already, and He is a sworn enemy of Chaos.

If He is displeased by their worship, He has ways of making that known. Since He hasn't yet made that known—either by direct intervention or communicating with His high priest—then it's logical to assume He's okay with it so far. There is no reason for the Eonir to fake it, and every reason to be sincere.
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Ulric is kinda notoriously quiet. Reminded that the Al-ulric evidently hadn't gotten any clear sign that Magnus the Pious was Cool, Actually until Magnus stood in the holy flame. Whereas Taal and Manaan actually like... sent signs.

Valmond said:
Obviously the thing to do is to take a thousand elves, induct them all as priests of Ulric, and see what happens over the next couple decades.
Then take another set of elves, and make them priests of some other god.
And maybe grab a third lot, invent a god, and make them priests of that god without telling that the god was invented, as a control group.
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And where do we fit 'mass produce The Sword Death' into this God Learner speedrun then?
 
Isn't a whole part of Elven lore that Asuryan was like "no dealings with mortal world, nope", and elven gods sometimes by-passing that? Beside Isha who's rather defying that rather openly once a year? (Unless i happened to be mixing things up here with fandom)

Assuming, that is the case, might it be more a case of Priest being possible for elves but not allowed/Their biologi doesn't quite channel divine energy same way other races can, therfor the legend of Asuryan's ban came to pass.

Assuming it's biological, and we're going with assumption that Ranald=Loec, it might explain why we have priest of Ranald but not Loec, being very different biological natures. Because Elven simply can't cast divine lore, at least not in the way we recognize it as
 
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Mopman43 said:
What are you referring to here?
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Isn't there a yearly event where Isha essentially reaches out and cover Ulthuan in divine energy healing and soothing the land, because her pain at seeing people suffer is too great? Unless i'm just utterly missremembering in which case, please forgive and disregard what i've said
 
Sa'kage said:
Isn't there a yearly event where Isha essentially reaches out and cover Ulthuan in divine energy healing and soothing the land, because her pain at seeing people suffer is too great? Unless i'm just utterly missremembering in which case, please forgive and disregard what i've said
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Off-hand I haven't heard anything like that.

Codex?
 
reignonyrparade said:
Ulric is kinda notoriously quiet. Reminded that the Al-ulric evidently hadn't gotten any clear sign that Magnus the Pious was Cool, Actually until Magnus stood in the holy flame. Whereas Taal and Manaan actually like... sent signs.
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Clearly too busy kicking Chaos's ass alongside best-bro-for-life Grimnir.

Speaking of gods, I wonder if Krignar will ever come up for the Dawi of Divided Loyalties.
 
Mathilde might have given up on the idea of identifying gods scientifically, but has there been any word about the possibility of asking Ranald more directly about the association with Loec? We could start with something as simple as talking to Heidi and escalate up to going all in by leaving a drawing of Loec's symbol on Ranald's shrine to see what happens.

A positive answer could open a lot of options, from grabbing some wardancer skills to introducing Loec the god of song and plays as part of wizard chic. After all, "If the elves can steal one of our gods, we can steal one of theirs too."
 
Lampshade said:
Mathilde might have given up on the idea of identifying gods scientifically, but has there been any word about the possibility of asking Ranald more directly about the association with Loec? We could start with something as simple as talking to Heidi and escalate up to going all in by leaving a drawing of Loec's symbol on Ranald's shrine to see what happens.
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Should Mathilde inquire in that direction now?

She's already got a divine mystery box in Ranald's daughter's. If Ranald wanted to tell Mathilde that he's Loec he would have done that instead of pointing her towards his daughter.

Then there's the various magical mysteries and training; we're barely making any progress with the backlog we have now - going off to do wardancer training seems too big of a detour.
 
Droman said:
Speaking of gods, I wonder if Krignar will ever come up for the Dawi of Divided Loyalties.
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He won't.

Lampshade said:
Mathilde might have given up on the idea of identifying gods scientifically, but has there been any word about the possibility of asking Ranald more directly about the association with Loec? We could start with something as simple as talking to Heidi and escalate up to going all in by leaving a drawing of Loec's symbol on Ranald's shrine to see what happens.

A positive answer could open a lot of options, from grabbing some wardancer skills to introducing Loec the god of song and plays as part of wizard chic. After all, "If the elves can steal one of our gods, we can steal one of theirs too."
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It's hard to offend Ranald, but directly asking the God of Deceit to confirm or deny an alias might manage it. You'd be asking Him to act directly against one of His primary associations.
 
Boney said:
It's hard to offend Ranald, but directly asking the God of Deceit to confirm or deny an alias might manage it. You'd be asking Him to act directly against one of His primary associations.
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I see, thanks.

So the plan is to disguise as an Asrai, trick Loec into assuming we're part of his crew, infiltrate the wardancers and frame it as stealing their skills rather than pestering Ranald for handouts.
 
Boney said:
It's hard to offend Ranald, but directly asking the God of Deceit to confirm or deny an alias might manage it. You'd be asking Him to act directly against one of His primary associations.
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"I, as your close personal friend, would like to spend some quality time with you. Could you tell me your whereabouts on or about the 10th of Nachgeheim? Oh, and if you can talk directly into my collar, that would be ideal. No reason."
 
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Lampshade said:
I see, thanks.

So the plan is to disguise as an Asrai, trick Loec into assuming we're part of his crew, infiltrate the wardancers and frame it as stealing their skills rather than pestering Ranald for handouts.
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The Shadow Warriors of Nagarythe are also dedicated to Loec. And we have a chip we've yet to cash in to fight with them against Drucchi for 90 days.
 
Mopman43 said:
Off-hand I haven't heard anything like that.

Codex?
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I don't remember that offhand either, and I'm definitely not in a state to look it up (sick on my birthday. yay). The only things that come to mind is that Avelorn is in eternal spring because of Isha's intervention making sure winter never arrives, that the Everqueen revitalises the land and she is the avatar of Isha. And that period ritual in Ind you talked about a while ago that the Everqueen does every ten years, You would know more about it than I do.
 
Speaking of trade with Cathay, I have wondered for some time. It sells mostly silk and spices - very expensive per weight and volume. But what does it buy from Western merchants? Or do they just load with precious metals and gems when going East?

Another question is, what is the actual distance between two civilizations? I have seen maps, but don't recall them having a legend that marks distance.
 
Aule said:
Speaking of trade with Cathay, I have wondered for some time. It sells mostly silk and spices - very expensive per weight and volume. But what does it buy from Western merchants? Or do they just load with precious metals and gems when going East?
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If we take the inspiration from the real-world equivalent, horses, furs, glassware, exotic animals of all sorts, and exotic herbs/spices are all likely trade goods, in addition to the metals and gems.

Not sure how well that holds up within the Warhammer setting - don't really know all that much about Cathay
 
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Aule said:
Speaking of trade with Cathay, I have wondered for some time. It sells mostly silk and spices - very expensive per weight and volume. But what does it buy from Western merchants? Or do they just load with precious metals and gems when going East?

Another question is, what is the actual distance between two civilizations? I have seen maps, but don't recall them having a legend that marks distance.
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The Ivory Road is a reflection of the real life Silk Road, so probably precious metals to horses, weapons, woolen goods, glassware, gold and silver, and precious stones and jewels. At least that's what google provides. Well, it seems I've been Mathilde'd.

If you're looking for distances, here's an Old World Map that Boney uses with a legend provided. You can measure the distances all the way up to the Mountains of Mourne where it ends, because Cathay never got a detailed map until now with Total War (and even then it's incomplete). Mountains of Mourne has a map but there is no legend provided:
 
Codex said:
The Ivory Road is a reflection of the real life Silk Road, so probably precious metals to horses, weapons, woolen goods, glassware, gold and silver, and precious stones and jewels. At least that's what google provides. Well, it seems I've been Mathilde'd.

If you're looking for distances, here's an Old World Map that Boney uses with a legend provided. You can measure the distances all the way up to the Mountains of Mourne where it ends, because Cathay never got a detailed map until now with Total War (and even then it's incomplete). Mountains of Mourne has a map but there is no legend provided:
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A rough estimate, I guess, would be about 3k kilometers from K8P to crossing Mountains of Mourne? And then some unspecified distance past that point.

A round trip probably takes more than a year, eh?
 
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