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(slouching towards bethlehem)
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Warhammer Fantasy: Divided Loyalties - an Advisor's Quest
- Thread starter Boney
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- Fantasy Users' Choice!
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- warhammer warhammer fantasy fantasy be gay do crimes (gay) female protagonist pansexual protagonist ck2 quest divided loyalties mountain vietnam ranald is real this is a dwarf quest (dwarfs) this is maybe an elf quest this is not a vampire quest this is not an empire quest try it and find out open voting
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Sir_Travelsalot
Never wakes up tired.
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- At Home
I mean, apparently the first dwarfs used slings to hunt, preferring to use Wutroth seeds as their ammunition of preference. I think that's all that's been stated in official material about ancient dwarf food production.
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- Oklahoma
Trying to link Hashut to the Dwarven pantheon is just a bad idea at every level.
There are very few more sure fire ways to piss of the entire Karaz Ankor than equating Hashut to the Ancestor Gods.
Its also not really what was being suggested there- its more of an open question of 'why did Hashut succeed where every other non-Ancestor God has historically failed' and then some spitballing for possible explanations- leading in to other 'odd' pantheons that outside gods have trouble poaching from.
You know, I just realised that we got very very lucky when Anton failed to rehire Asarnil and Deathfang for the K8P thing—if Deathfang had been in the mountains when Cython woke up, it would have gotten very ugly.
Mathilde getting her Loremaster on.
Would be nice to see Pan get her promotion. Also good to hear that the goo experiment has been successful.
They grow up so fast.
…not the most observant of lizards is it? Too much time with its snout buried in a book perhaps.
Wait... how did Cython get access to Mathilde's papers? Are they on the Grey College's academic mailing list?
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- Oklahoma
There's probably copies in Mathilde's library and Cython has an open invitation to that.
Yeah, but Cython can't physically fit in the library, they can only read books Mathilde has moved into the dragon sized reading room, and Mathilde was surprised that they'd read them, suggesting that she hadn't given those papers to them, so how did Cython access them?
... godsdamnit, Wolf.
deathofrats0808
Don’t think of it as dying; just as leaving early
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- Earth
While there might be, I don't know if the Dwarfs do much trade with Bretonnia. Like, Mathilde said one of the reasons they get on so well with the Empire is because they've proven themselves a reliable source of food imports. If Bretonnia lacks that rep, they might not import food from them if they can avoid it.
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- The Star Kingdom of Manticore
The update states that there is a special room in Mathilde's penthouse that is big enough for Cython and she brings up books from her library that he expresses interest in to it.
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- New Brunswick, NJ
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- He/Him/His
@BoneyM, just checking: do dwarves have Rare/Antiquarian/Esoteric books about The Eonir of Laurelorn? It occurred to me that Karaz Ghumzul, which is the only Dwarfhold in that area, was abandoned a long-ass time ago, and so maybe this just isn't a topic dwarves will have rare books for (the way rare books haven't existed/been available for some other topics).
dinomannitro6
all your gender is belong to us
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- The Land Where The Sunflowers Bloom
lol, even when Anton is unlucky, he is lucky
There's only a few minor holds in the northern Grey Mountains that have direct access to Bretonnia.
The books they have are able to supply the raw numerical bonus because they have detailed information about their early days, but the specific information that Dwarven books would supply would be light on more contemporary details.
Mopman43
Mountain-Hermit of Nitpeak
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- Vermont
In quest-canon at least, they were willing to trade food-stuffs with Tylos, Nehekhara, and Strygos, and certainly none of those had any kind of Sigmar-figure like the Empire.
Far as I'm aware, Dwarfs don't hold any particular ill opinion of Bretonnians, beyond "they're a bit Elf-touched" and "what's with all of this 'chivalry' business?"
Sir_Travelsalot
Never wakes up tired.
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- At Home
I reckon they might have a great deal of ill opinion over Bretonnian beer, which is so famous for being vile that asking if the landlord's brewer is Bretonnian is the fastest way to get kicked out of any tavern in the Old World.
Mopman43
Mountain-Hermit of Nitpeak
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- Vermont
Right, when I made my earlier comment, I'd forgotten that the major Young Holds are Southern Grey, Black, and the Vaults.
...so, something about Wissenland?
This is rather random, but I was looking at the 8th edition map of Dwarf holds and noted Bugman's Brewery in southern Wissenland- assuming that's information that Mathilde even could know, did Bugman brew with human or Dwarf grains?
(You know, some days I wonder if the Brewer's Guilds of the Karaz Ankor hold any resentment towards Bugman- renowned as the greatest brewer in the world, with XXXXXX being of legendary quality, and he's a 2nd generation Imperial Dwarf that might not have even held membership in any Brewer's Guild)
People need to eat food to not die, that's about it. There's a few folk cures like curing night-blindness by eating roast liver, but that the cure is to rub the liver on your eyes before eating it suggests they haven't quite fully grasped what's going on.
Unknown. The recipe was a carefully-guarded secret.
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- The Star Kingdom of Manticore
I wonder... What if Pat's theory is correct, but not in the way she's thinking. What if the problem is caused by an overabundance of a mineral, not a lack of. The major farmland in the east of the empire, the place the old holds are most likely to get their grains, is in a flood basin. An enormous one at that if we take the account of Morgrim's floodgates as truth.
Floods are great for crops because they move minerals around, in this case it would be moving minerals from the World's Edge Mountains. However, just as not enough minerals is a problem so too can too many minerals. If the dwarfs in the old holds are eating grains with too much of a mineral it could build up in their bodies, explaining also why the younger dwarfs seem so much more energetic, but the older they get the more morose they become.
Diet could be an excellent piece of the puzzle for dwarven decline because there are so much that could be going on.
Floods are great for crops because they move minerals around, in this case it would be moving minerals from the World's Edge Mountains. However, just as not enough minerals is a problem so too can too many minerals. If the dwarfs in the old holds are eating grains with too much of a mineral it could build up in their bodies, explaining also why the younger dwarfs seem so much more energetic, but the older they get the more morose they become.
Diet could be an excellent piece of the puzzle for dwarven decline because there are so much that could be going on.
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- Europa, Jupiter Orbit
If I understood and remember correctly, Dwarven professionals don't peg their expected salaries to supply and demand, but to status and effort.
The Phoenixian
The Glacier Witch
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- My own little world
Honestly, it strikes me that this is as liable to be an opportunity for the Empire as a a drawback.
If this is a matter of some nutrient the dwarves aren't getting then (such as mineral content from growing inside a mountain) it's just a matter of finding the right conditions and fortifying the result or engineering a better environment for crop growth. Be that fertilizer-alike soil additives, or fortification during a processing stage.
If it's a matter of something they are that they shouldn't be, probably the Winds, then its a matter of either finding ways to grow food in an environment without the Winds or purging the Winds from the grown material afterwards. The latter requiring less change to the way things work but being more plausible than the former.
Point though, is that if this checks out, then as long as Imperial farmers, traders, and/or cities are even capable of adapting, they suddenly have a market for High Quality food exports to Dwarven holds.
Given the nature of Dwarves, I'd give good odds someone is going to leap at the chance of being able to sell High Quality anything to them. Even if that something is wheat.
I'm a bit weary of the first point, because I'm not sure how much Mathy would think the beastman would be an imminent threat.
honestly, as we don't actually know what's going to be needed for the waystone research, I would argue that what we should get is not getting one thing up as high as possible, but rounding out weak areas.
1:Magical Theory: I would like to get all the books on winds up to Ulgu's +5. so that anyone that joins/helps has something that will be of use and that we have something on hand if one wind because a focus topic at any point.
2: Geography, old empire maps, forests of the old world, pretitualerly maps of known waystone locations would be nice.
3:Flora and Fauna: Trees, really need to know stuff about trees so that we can grasp what's so weird about the waystone trees we will be studying. right now I think mathy will only really be able to go 'yep, that's a magic tree.... how do trees normally work?'
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- Seattle
Lol, Cython and Dragomas both love my stupid book.