Threads Of Destiny(Eastern Fantasy, Sequel to Forge of Destiny)

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I think that's more or less inevitable once she hits 5th tier of cultivation.
Big spirits attract smaller spirits, and if she is to become the main winter spirit of southern Emeral Seas, she is going to end up needing lesser spirits to send as messengers.
I mean, considering who she's bonded with and the connections we already have as a group the local Ministry of Spiritual Affairs will love to have someone like her rather than dealing with some other older and less human-adapted spirit filling the role of effectively being Spirit-Count of the area. Especially if things continue going well with the polar confederations.
 
When a Wanderer Visits
When a Wanderer Visits

There once was a humble village that sat next to a river. In this village the people would go out and cut marble stone to sell and to fish in the river to fill their bellies. The marble was of good quality and brought much wealth to the village but the governor of the village was a cruel man. He taxed the people relentlessly and would only hunt spirits and beasts if three or four people went missing. But the people always had roofs over their heads, food to fill their mouths, and the wild things of the land were usually a distant concern and so they did not complain as complaining would only bring the eire of the governor on them.

Now in this village was a homely man named Niren who had no family or wealth. He lived in a little hovel only big enough for him to sleep and eat in and did little more than keep the worst of the rain and cold out. Niren did not let that keep his spirits down and was always quick with a smile and a helping hand. Whenever his neighbors tried to pay him he would laugh it off and say to just give him some rice and wine for his meal that night because he wouldn't know what to do with so much money even if they only offered him a few copper coins. Because of this he became known as Niren the Helpful.

One day a wanderer visited this village. This wanderer was an old grandfather, with a back so bowed with age he had to use a cane just to stand upright, with wrinkles so deep and weathered his skin looked like dried out mud. As he walked the streets the old man heard about Niren the helpful, about how he was quick to help with a task no matter how long or hard it might be. Intrigued, the wanderer eventually found Niren's little hovel just as night was approaching.

Knocking on the door he called out if anyone was home. Once the door opened and showed Niren the old wanderer said "Young sir, I am Zufu Hou, I am on my way to visit my family who lives far from my home. I am in need of a bed and a little bit of food so I may continue my journey on the morrow. Would you be able to help this old man?"

With a smile and a laugh Niren ushered Zufu Hou into his home and said "Honored grandfather, how auspicious it is that you visit this humble Niren today! I was gifted a large fish today for helping the fishermen haul in their nets and carrying their catches to the market. Eat as much of it as you can and sleep in my bed tonight so you may be as rested as possible before moving on." Helping Zufu Hou to his bed (for there was nowhere else to sit in his home) Niren quickly cooked the fish and rice he was planning to eat for his own dinner and offered it to his guest.

Seeing that Niren only had a plate with not even a half a cup of rice asked, "Niren, is that all you are going to eat?"

With a laugh Niren replied, "You may not know this honored grandfather but this Niren has a tiny stomach. Eating two or three mouthfuls of rice is more than enough to keep me full for an entire night!" This of course was not true but Niren did not want his guest to know he had given them the rest of the food he had in his home.

After finishing the meal Zufu Hou let out a sigh, "My arms and legs are so sore from traveling today, if only I had some warm wine I would surely be able to sleep tonight without issue."

"Honored grandfather, say no more. Although I have no wine in my home, please rest and I will get you some wine shortly." Springing up Niren made sure Zufu Hou was comfortable before hurrying as quickly as he could to his neighbors. After some begging, one of his neighbors agreed to give him some wine and Niren said he would pay them back for their generosity as soon as he could. He then returned home, carefully warmed the wine, and served Zufu Hou until the old man retired to sleep.

As Niren lay down on his hard floor to try and get some sleep Zufu Hou quietly spoke up. "Niren, is there anything in this life that you wish for?"

"Honored grandfather, what need have I for wishes? I have a roof over my head, a fire to keep me warm, and food to keep me full. What more could I ask for?"

With a huff Zufu Hou replied, "Is there truly nothing in this world you desire? No adventure that calls to you or wants unfulfilled?"

Taking a moment to think, Niren said, "Well, it is said that the governor of our village, lord Jin Fu, has a daughter called Jin Nuer. Few have seen her but those that have say that she is the kindest and most beautiful woman. With a voice as soft as silk and a visage that would make even the moon jealous her father has kept her safe and secure in their home so no untowards man could approach her. If I had one wish it would be to chat with Jin Nuer for it sounds like a terribly lonely way to live like that."

"Thank you for your honesty. I must go away in the morning so best to get some sleep now." And with that the two of them fell fast asleep and in the morning Zufu Hou thanked Niren for his hospitality before leaving his home.

Now Zufu Hou did not leave the village because Zufu Hou was not actually an elderly man on his way to visit family, he was in fact the Reveler cleverly disguised! Why do such a thing you might ask and the answer is this; it is terribly boring to do nothing but sleep underneath the Water Curtain Cave. Therefore, the Reveler will take jaunts around the province to see how things are going and to maybe play a prank or two. After hearing Niren's wish the Reveler decided to go see lord Jin Fu to see if maybe that wish could be granted.

He also wanted to see how Jin Fu's hospitality compared to the humble Niren's, so he hobbled his way over to the large mansion still disguised as the old Zufu Hou.

Announcing himself at the gate to the Jin manor, Zufu Hou declared he had come to give honor and respect to the governor of the land, Jin Fu. The guard at the gate went to his master Jin Fu and explained that an old man had come to give respect and honor to him. Jin Fu instructed his guard and servants to allow the man in but to not give him anything and that he would deal with them once he had the time to.

The disguised Reveler was thus led to a small waiting room and told that Jin Fu was here but busy with some work so he should wait a moment till he could visit. After waiting about ten minutes Zufu Hou asked a nearby servant if perhaps some tea could be served while he waited. The servant replied that they were currently all out of tea leaves and it would take too long to fetch some. After another ten minutes of waiting Zufu Hou asked if perhaps some food could be served for he had not eaten a morning meal, saying even some leftover rice would do. Again the servant responded that nothing was available as they had no left overs and the cooking fires would have to be lit once more and would take too long to cook for the guest. Starting to become slightly angry Zufu Hou waited for twenty minutes before asking for some water but again he was denied and told that they did not have any clean drinking water but that the water fetcher should be back soon with some.

It was at this point that Jin Fu finally arrived to meet Zufu Hou. Jumping up the Reveler began to angrily berate the governor yelling "You slothful greedy pig! I came here to pay you honor for defending these lands and yet your household denies me even a sip of water to slack my thirst! You deserve no respect or honor!"

Now the Reveler's disguise was so well done that not even Jin Fu who regularly fought trickster spirits could see past it. This meant that Jin Fu only saw an elderly wanderer begin yelling at him before he even opened his mouth. With a laugh the arrogant man responded with, "Who are you to claim such things? You enter my home under false pretenses and ask for food and drink but then yell at me at your first chance. You useless old man leave my house before I take your head!"

"You unfilial clod, you dare threaten your own father?" The old looking Zufu Hou shot back.

"You dare!" Jin Fu yelled as he drew his sword and lunged for the frail looking old man. With a smirk Zufu Hou reached to his ear and seemed to pull out a small needle from behind it but with a single shake of his hand it grew into an iron staff! Quicker than the eye could see the Reveler swatted the sword from Jin Fu's hand. Now truly enraged Jin Fu leaped again at Zufu Hou to strangle this stranger in his home. With a laugh the disguised Reveler pushed him away as if he was a child.

"Ha! You useless pile of shit. You would attack a guest of your house as if they were a thief? You truly are worse than the dirt beneath my feet!" As he spoke the Reveler allowed his disguise to fall away. Soon the old man Zufu Hou was a great ape with rich, dark hair and stood over three heads taller than Jin Fu.

With a whimper Jin Fu began to call for help. "Monster! Demon! To arms! Protect me! Daughter! Daughter, protect your father!" were his pitiful cries as the Reveler picked him up by the back of his robe and gave him a shake.

"Are you so old and infirm that you must ask your children for protection? Pitiful! Be quiet or I shall surely kill you right now." With another shake Jin Fu fell silent for he truly feared for his life.

It took a few moments but soon the door to the room was thrown open. There stood a young woman of unparalleled beauty with the household guards. She had hair finer than any silk, eyes bluer than the sky, skin as pale as moonlight and lips redder than the sweetest berries, this was Jin Nuer the daughter of Jin Fu. Now Jin Nuer had been taught by her father in the arts and magics of immortals but had also been blessed with eyes that could discern the nature of a being with but a glance. Seeing the Reveler holding her father above the ground as tears streamed from his face Jin Nuer immediately dropped to the ground and kowtowed until her face touched the floor and pleaded, "Oh great and powerful Reveler! Please forgive this one's father! Spare his life and this unfilial daughter shall do anything you ask including taking her own life!"

At such an honest and devoted display from Jin Fu's daughter the Reveler began to stroke his chin in thought. "At such a heartfelt display I shall give him a chance. Go and find one called Niren the Helpful and bring him here." He set down the now paralyzed with terror Jin Fu and thought to himself, 'I shall deal with both my debt to Niren and the insult of Jin Fu in the same move. As the saying goes, the clever fisherman can catch two fish with one hook.'

Jin Nuer sent the guards out at once to retrieve Niren from the village and soon the man was brought to the manor. Being led in he stumbled over his own feet at first seeing the beauty of Jin Nuer but upon seeing the revealed form of the Reveler quickly falling to his hands and knees and wishing to cry out but unable to find his voice. With a laugh and a wave of his hand the Reveler said, "No need for fear Niren! Do you not recognize your friend Zufu Hou? We parted not even half a day ago! How sad that I am forgotten so quickly. Ha!"

With those words Niren quickly realized what had happened and kowtowed four times to the Reveler saying, "Thank you for accepting this one's humble hospitality master."

With another laugh the Reveler waved him off saying, "It's fine, it's fine! I actually wanted your opinion on a matter. You see, this rapscallion known as Jin Fu has done me a great insult. I had come to praise him for maintaining such a nice village and was left to wait as he took care of some matters. This is fine but the problem is as I waited I became thirsty and hungry but was denied even a grain of rice or drop of water. Now this put me in a foul mood so once he showed up I yelled a few rude comments at him and was planning on leaving it at that but this shit stain decided to attack a guest in his own house. I would have surely killed him if not for his daughter begging for his life. Knowing the story now, what do you think his punishment should be?"

Taking some time to think the matter over, for Niren was no fool, he eventually said, "Offense has surely been given to the master in this matter and attacking a guest of one's house is surely no small crime either. Lord Jin Fu is known to be somewhat slow to act and bit heavy with taxes in the village but even then he has protected us and helped insure the prosperity of the village. This one is not learned in the matters of law and punishments but my thoughts have been asked for. This one therefore asks for mercy for Jin Fu and instead of execution he is taught the error of his ways."

Nodding his head the Reveler agreed. "I shall spare Jin Fu's life then but shall take him on as a servant back at Water Curtain Cave so he can learn the rules of hospitality over the next few decades. For your earlier hospitality let me give you a little gift." Reaching into a pouch the Reveler pulled out a small gourd that contained some sort of liquid inside. "Drink this immortal elixir and you'll live for five hundred years. I shall also give you what used to be Jin Fu's estate and belongings for your consultation on the matter of his punishment." After handing Niren the elixir, the large ape grabbed the still stunned and speechless Jin Fu and dragged him outside. With a final "Farewell!" he leapt into the air with a single somersault and rode away on a golden cloud back to his home in Water Curtain Cave.

As for Jin Nuer and Niren, the two of them quickly fell in love. Jin Nuer taught Niren the magics of immortals and helped him rule and govern the village. Over five hundred years the two of them loved each other until both of them went to their graves. With their guidance and protection the village grew into a city of much renown and their dozen children grew up to be mighty and just protectors of the land. This is how our story ends.

-When a Wanderer Visits, story from "A Collection of Ebon Rivers Folk Tales", compiled by Zheng Ping

-A.N
@yrsillar Omake for the omake throne. Decided to take a crack at writing a sort of folk tale about how the Reveler wanders the lands. Took the idea from what we learn about the Reveler in the Ancestor's Sublime sidestory. Hope you guys like it!
 
I mean, considering who she's bonded with and the connections we already have as a group the local Ministry of Spiritual Affairs will love to have someone like her rather than dealing with some other older and less human-adapted spirit filling the role of effectively being Spirit-Count of the area. Especially if things continue going well with the polar confederations.
I was wondering about that. Won't there be friction between Ling Qi and Spiritual Affairs in her fief? I don't see her being anything but extremely Weilu in her dealings with the local spirits, making tailored deals with them all, integrating them into the community, etc, while the Ministry is a peakaboo institution set in its ways. We have several short stories illustrating that the Weilu way of living with spirits is an affront to Imperial sensibilities:
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Why must you pester me so, lordling. I am here on but obligation. I have no interest in whatever games it is you wish to play with the court.Leave this old man be! You imagine that you are the first to ask me just what it is that we think we are preserving you smirking rascal, you arrogant...
 
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"Anyway, it was great, lots of people loved me! Its super weird, hearing people even when I'm not around, and like, feeling the wind and the clouds and other weather stuff. Nudging it around is kinda tiring, especially when other spirits are being grumpy losers about it and pushing back,"

"Did you actually pick any fights?" Ling Qi asked concernedly.

Bao Qian coughed into his hand, and Hanyi paused, looking a little abashed. Ling Qi gave her a flat look.

"...It was only one time! There was a hail spirit, and I had to make her go away, I had just promised that those fields would be okay, she can do her thing before the early planting from now on," Hanyi said, turning up her nose. "Even that priest guy who followed us around agreed that I'd uh-"
Tsu: *Nods sagely*

Thats how it should be done. You get your turns, but on a proper schedule.
 
I was wondering about that. Won't there be friction between Ling Qi and Spiritual Affairs in her fief? I don't see her being anything but extremely Weilu in her dealings with the local spirits, making tailored deals with them all, integrating them into the community, etc, while the Ministry is a peakaboo institution set in its ways. We have several short stories illustrating that the Weilu way of living with spirits is an affront to Imperial sensibilities:
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AN: And here's a new public commission Once, the worlds of man and spirit were far less separate. Before the lords of the forest turned to the north, before the temples were fractured and humbled, the people of the Emerald Seas worked much more closely with their spirit neighbors. It was...
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Why must you pester me so, lordling. I am here on but obligation. I have no interest in whatever games it is you wish to play with the court.Leave this old man be! You imagine that you are the first to ask me just what it is that we think we are preserving you smirking rascal, you arrogant...
There will definitely be some friction but nobles are granted major leeway in the spiritual affairs of their fief since they are technically the high priest of that area. Especially with their own bound spirits. So they won't be able to do much in Qi's actual fief (especially with Renxiang around) but they can make things more difficult for Hanyi's future tours.

Plus this is in the emerald seas which already deals with major weilu leaning clans so they can't do much just on the basis that "it's too weilu" since some of the most powerful clans in the province will heavily object to the notion that you can be punished for that reason alone.
 
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"This one's my favorite!" Hanyi exclaimed, turning to her with a bundle of soft cloth, which fell open revealing fine figurine of blue frosted glass, shaped like a girl dancing in mid whirl. She felt like it was probably supposed to be Hanyi. "I was so happy! And the glass guy was so happy when I said so and gave him a blessing. Cause he had a little baby and he asked me to help make sure they didn't get sick this winter and…"

Why do I get the feeling that this baby has the potential to be an ice cultivator?
 
Why do I get the feeling that this baby has the potential to be an ice cultivator?
Yeah I could see them having a higher affinity to ice arts later if they become a cultivator. Nothing like the lineage Qi got from Zeqing ofc (that took a tribulation and like a year of teachings from much more powerful spirit) , but an advantage all the same. Probably like Qi's initial wind affinity.
 
I think it's about time I leave this post here for other people to look at considering the upcoming vote/s for FSS+. It's a compilation of fanmade arts compiled and headed by @Erebeal , among them being ideas for FSS+.

Credits also goes to @JohnnieBoy123 @Floom @JowKeen for contributing to the list.
Following up this post, do you guys have any ideas on what we want for FSS+?

For example, since our FSS insight pertains to endings that make way for new beginnings, what sort of tech do you think would perfectly encapsulate that? Maybe a tech that could act as a support after an attack from HR/CoE?
 
Maybe we could mix things and just skip to the end result of entropy with ashes? In fact if we're feeling creative let's just reverse the cold part of the technique into fire, would fit with the ashes. We can keep the hungry want darkness relatively unchanged as shadows.
 
How about something that dispels active effects and in doing so makes reapplying those effect techniques more Qi costly or less potent while additionally making it so applying different techniques cost less Qi or are more potent. A sort of small endings leading to new beginnings king of deal. Maybe this dispel technique could also empower a finisher, all those small endings combining into a big Ending.
 
In her head, she felt Sixiang wince, and her own expression froze. "I would call him a sibling, as you well know."
"Is the adult sibling who raises the infant alone not a parent? My experience says that it is so," the other girl replied with a shrug. "Perhaps I am wrong, but to me, your bond does not hold that tenor. My only point is that a parent and a child need not share interests to the same extent. The relationship is different."
Ling Qi was glad that between herself and Sixiang, they could manage a reasonable social screening technique to avoid eavesdroppers. "While I appreciate the advice, I would also appreciate it if you would not say such things," Ling Qi said evenly.
Alingge gave her a searching look, seeming nonplussed by her reaction. "Know that I do not mean to… impugn your virtue," she said as if the words were foreign. "I speak only as one raised by her own sister. Whatever the ties of blood say, it is actions which define relationships."
Ling Qi paused, brought up a little short. That… It killed her irritation in the crib. It still wasn't the same, but she could at least understand the chain of logic.
<I think you recognize more than that,> Sixiang grumbled. Ling Qi ignored them.
"It is fine. The line between sibling and parent can be blurry." It was difficult to say, and Ling Qi could not hide her reluctance in saying it.
Question: I understand perfectly why everything to do with romance makes Ling Qi go Do Not Want, but what's behind her stubborn refusal to acknowledge the blindingly obvious (that Zhengui is her kid)? I thought the Argent Mirror was supposed to strangle that kind of self-deception.
 
Question: I understand perfectly why everything to do with romance makes Ling Qi go Do Not Want, but what's behind her stubborn refusal to acknowledge the blindingly obvious (that Zhengui is her kid)? I thought the Argent Mirror was supposed to strangle that kind of self-deception.

It eventually did. She's admitted it by the current point in the quest (that quote was a bit ago), at least to Zhengui and herself.

That said, this is the other big result of her childhood trauma. Her mother was only a little older than Ling Qi is now when she had her, and her mother's whole situation and Ling Qi's exposure to it is the primary cause of her trauma. She ran away and lived on the streets rather than repeat her mother's life, and while being a prostitute was the most obvious part of that, being forced to be a mother at too young an age was clearly also something she was concerned about.
 
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It eventually did. She's admitted it by the current point in the quest (that quote was a bit ago), at least to Zhengui and herself.

That said, this is the other big result of her childhood trauma. Her mother was only a little older than Ling Qi is now when she had her, and her mother's whole situation and Ling Qi's exposure to it is the primary cause of her trauma. She ran away and lived on the streets rather than repeat her mother's life, and while being a prostitute was the most obvious part of that, being forced to be a mother at too young an age was clearly also something she was concerned about.
Ah, you're right. I'd not considered that. Good that she's made a lot of progress on that front. The way she was treating Zhengui was starting to hurt his development and self-confidence, I think.

Speaking of trauma and her mother, I believe we should keep in mind that Ling Qingge's advice on certain matters is also coloured by trauma, especially when it comes to relationship advice. She's not had a non-fucked up romantic relationship in her entire life either. For example, this bit made me wonder:
Ling Qingge was still frowning. "A member of a count clan came just for this? It must be quite valuable."
Ling Qi looked away, feeling guilty. "He may also be trying to court me… Sort of," she added, trailing off into a mumble.
She didn't miss the way that her mother's back stiffened at her words. "Ling Qi," she said, and the full weight of her frustration was conveyed by those brief syllables.
"It's not really official or anything," Ling Qi explained. "Well, his clan is fine with it, but they seem to be willing to play a longer game, and…"
"Ling Qi, please tell me that you have observed propriety," her mother cut her off with a plea.
Ling Qi's eyes flew open at her mother's implication, and she gave her a hurt look. "Mother! Of course I haven't done anything like... like..." She couldn't even put it into words.
Ling Qingge squeezed her eyes shut, taking a deep breath. "I am sorry, Ling Qi. I only…"
Ling Qi tried to see things from her mother's perspective. It probably looked like she had been trying to conceal something. Given everything in their lives, could she really blame the older woman? "I understand how dangerous men can be. I do, Mom."
Ling Qingge didn't reply at first. "I hope that you do, but your interactions with that young man gave me doubt."
"Xuan Shi?" Ling Qi asked in confusion. They were friendly enough, but he was…
"Ling Qi, even I could see that he held an interest in you," her mother chided. "Are you truly saying that you were not making use of that?"
Ling Qi gave her a horrified look. Her mother examined Ling Qi's face and then slowly lowered her face into her hands.
They both sat in awkward silence as the evening song of the crickets began.
"I do not think that he is the sort of man to perceive obligation from favors such as this," Ling Qingge finally said, raising her head. "But Ling Qi, please exercise further caution in the future."
Maybe I'm reading something into it that isn't there, but it almost feels to me as if her mom is worried some guy might force himself on her, or pressure her into sex, which given her personal power, standing in the Sect, position as retainer to the heir of the province etc etc is completely insane. And this bit: "I understand how dangerous men can be. I do, Mom." seems way more applicable to mortal culture than to cultivator culture. The physical and social power imbalance prevalent in the former doesn't really exist in the latter far as I can tell.

Also, whenever Imperials start fretting about romantic stuff in the story I've taken to imagining a Zheng standing in the background and muttering "y'all people are crazy." The Monkey Power folks appear to be the only ones in the entire Empire with a healthy attitude toward such matters. :p
 
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Ah, you're right. I'd not considered that. Good that she's made a lot of progress on that front. The way she was treating Zhengui was starting to hurt his development and self-confidence, I think.

Oh definitely. Her admitting it was a very important step for both of them.

Speaking of trauma and her mother, I believe we should keep in mind that Ling Qingge's advice on certain matters is also coloured by trauma, especially when it comes to relationship advice. She's not had a non-fucked up romantic relationship in her entire life either. For example, this bit made me wonder:

Maybe I'm reading something into it that isn't there, but it almost feels to me as if her mom is worried some guy might force himself on her, or pressure her into sex, which given her personal power, standing in the Sect, position as retainer to the heir of the province etc etc is completely insane. And this bit: "I understand how dangerous men can be. I do, Mom." seems way more applicable to mortal culture than to cultivator culture. The physical and social power imbalance prevalent in the former doesn't really exist in the latter far as I can tell.

Yep. Her mother is 100% doing a combination of projecting her own experiences and applying mortal standards that do not apply in regards to her worries about Ling Qi and men. She is traumatized and not entirely rational on the subject.

Also, whenever Imperials start fretting about romantic stuff in the story I've taken to imagining a Zheng standing in the background and muttering "y'all people are crazy." The Monkey Power folks appear to be the only ones in the entire Empire with a healthy attitude toward such matters. :p

Even the Zheng attitude is too uncaring of what the consequences may be for their partner in the longer term to be a truly healthy one. It's significantly better than the prevailing attitudes, mind you, but still kinda shitty some of the time.
 
Yep. Her mother is 100% doing a combination of projecting her own experiences and applying mortal standards that do not apply in regards to her worries about Ling Qi and men. She is traumatized and not entirely rational on the subject.
We should take Qingge to witness one of Qi's duels one day. IIRC she's red soul now, so her eyeballs shouldn't melt from watching third realms have at it. Maybe that'll jolt her into realising that the stuff she's worried about is about as big a danger to Ling Qi as a snowball to a fire elemental.
Even the Zheng attitude is too uncaring of what the consequences may be for their partner in the longer term to be a truly healthy one. It's significantly better than the prevailing attitudes, mind you, but still kinda shitty some of the time.
I consider the Zheng infinitely better mainly because they A. see nothing shameful about sex. There's no fretting about guarding one's virtue or dishonour or other bullshit like that, and B. as seen in the sidestory about the Bai and Zheng girls consent is of the utmost importance for them. You don't want to do it, or have done it with them before but don't want to again? Fine, no problem, they respect your decision.
 
I think a big thing is that, in a land where people can shatter mountains, relationship troubles can become problems. If a high rank cultivator feels betrayed by their spouse or significant other then the consequences can be much more devastating then a scratched up car... But that's just my 2 cents...
 
We should take Qingge to witness one of Qi's duels one day. IIRC she's red soul now, so her eyeballs shouldn't melt from watching third realms have at it. Maybe that'll jolt her into realising that the stuff she's worried about is about as big a danger to Ling Qi as a snowball to a fire elemental.

It's not quite that simple. The real reason Ling Qi doesn't need to worry about being pressured in regards to sex is entirely social, it's her connection to the Cai. Without that, a ducal scion like Xuan Shi could absolutely pressure her in a variety of ways, and for all her power she could be put in a very unpleasant position. Xuan Shi would never do that, of course, as even her mother acknowledges...but her simply being physically powerful sadly does not make her safe, a reality her mother is aware of. Note that it's members of Count and Ducal families who she is concerned about, not just anyone.

Of course, her own situation's issues having been with a higher ranked man also definitely plays into that...but it's not an attitude without basis in reality, and just watching Ling Qi wreck somebody probably won't solve it.

I consider the Zheng infinitely better mainly because they A. see nothing shameful about sex. There's no fretting about guarding one's virtue or dishonour or other bullshit like that, and B. as seen in the sidestory about the Bai and Zheng girls consent is of the utmost importance for them. You don't want to do it, or have done it with them before but don't want to again? Fine, no problem, they respect your decision.

As I said, the Zheng attitude is definitely much better, for both those reasons. But it's also an attitude that not only allows but encourages sleeping with married people in a culture where that might lead directly to the death of the person you slept with, and utterly refusing to take responsibility for children left in your wake for the men of the Zheng, just as two examples of issues. It healthier, sure, but healthy seems like a bridge too far.
 
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