Threads Of Destiny(Eastern Fantasy, Sequel to Forge of Destiny)
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Chapter 14-Zhou's Trial 3 - Forge of Destiny
She was blind, she couldn’t feel her limbs, and the only sound was the rushing of wind in her ears. Even her grasp of air currents told her nothing. Panic (...)
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Seems to me this was Ling Qi's first ridiculous bit of luck. Super qi growth pills and three fricking arts from a prism spirit. Why did Xin give her that stuff in the first place? Was there ten degrees of success on a roll or something?
Chapter 14-Zhou's Trial 3 - Forge of Destiny
She was blind, she couldn’t feel her limbs, and the only sound was the rushing of wind in her ears. Even her grasp of air currents told her nothing. Panic (...)
Seems to me this was Ling Qi's first ridiculous bit of luck. Super qi growth pills and three fricking arts from a prism spirit. Why did Xin give her that stuff in the first place? Was there ten degrees of success on a roll or something?
It was an event roll I believe it was a 93 95 or 97. Can't remember without going back to it. Also if I remember correctly character creation also had a hidden trait which either had something to do with spiritual attention or moon spirit attention something like that
There was an event roll of 98 in the post here.Chapter 14-Zhou's Trial 3 - Forge of Destiny
She was blind, she couldn’t feel her limbs, and the only sound was the rushing of wind in her ears. Even her grasp of air currents told her nothing. Panic (...)
Seems to me this was Ling Qi's first ridiculous bit of luck. Super qi growth pills and three fricking arts from a prism spirit. Why did Xin give her that stuff in the first place? Was there ten degrees of success on a roll or something?
Oliver_Twister
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Chapter 14-Zhou's Trial 3 - Forge of Destiny
She was blind, she couldn’t feel her limbs, and the only sound was the rushing of wind in her ears. Even her grasp of air currents told her nothing. Panic (...)
Seems to me this was Ling Qi's first ridiculous bit of luck. Super qi growth pills and three fricking arts from a prism spirit. Why did Xin give her that stuff in the first place? Was there ten degrees of success on a roll or something?
Great Spirit attention!
NB: I'm just memeing. Don't take this as Truth.
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And right after that is the chapter where well boy got kicked down his well! Great stuff.
We don't know how deeply or widely held that belief is. What we have is just one writer's opinion in a sidestory. It could be that most Imperials accept that barbarians might occasionally produce a White. In any case, not all Great Spirits were human, and they probably don't have to stay where they ascended, so just their existence doesn't really prove anything.
Oliver_Twister
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The sad thing is, Well Boy was named during the first tournament. We even got his POV, some info that gives a picture of his family life, and his thoughts on Ling Qi (before her and her Mist steamrolled him and his group).
But he's so insignificant that no one remembers his name. Poor Well Boy.....
I wish we had more Fan Yu instead.
Speaking of, I had completely forgotten that he repeatedly called Su Ling beast. Yikes. And what makes it even more facepalm-y is that he did it next to Han Jian and Gu Xiulan. Sure, Jian doesn't have tiger features to anywhere near the extent a Bai has snake features, due to the Han not managing to concentrate the blood to the same degree, but still. And Xiulan is a descendant of the Purifying Sun. He's basically yelling the N-word while standing next to two black people who can pass. What a little shit.
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I think he, and the prejudices of the society he is from, make a very real distinction between people with powerful spirit beasts in their distant ancestry and those who are literally half spirit beast. The power of their ancestor also definitely plays a role (and Su Ling's mother is just not that powerful in the grand scheme of things). Doesn't make him less of a shitty racist, mind you, but I do think that it wouldn't have occurred to either him, or Han Jian and Gu Xiulan for that matter, to put them in the same 'category' as Su Ling. Both Jian and Xiulan probably thought it was shitty of him to say, but neither even considered that it was directed at them, and I think that's a dynamic worth noting.
It's a weird blind spot in the society as a whole (and one Ling Qi even comments on fairly early on), but it's very real and effects the way in which this is shitty. Like, it's more like saying racist shit against Native Americans around many Hispanic people during the era where those two groups often did not strongly identify with each other. Still shitty, but in a different way, y'know?
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In the Purifying Sun's case I want to say they adopted a human like big Imperial dragon mom did.
Now that still means Fan Yu is horribly racist, but he at least cleared the very low bar of 'don't indirectly call your fiance a slur.'
Xiulan say the Gu are descended from the Purifying Sun. Maybe it was like with Tsu and the Horned Lord, where their kids bonked and produced the spirit-blooded offspring.
I'd like to ask for a WoG on the subject.
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The Lu? I think were the Phoenix Clan.
The Gu were a cadet branch.
Given how powerful a sublime is, and the Ice Clan method of creating spirit bloods, there doesn't need to be any boinking. The Phoenix just has to go 'you is muh kid' and the kid learns Phoenix things and then the Phoenix stares intently as daughteru-in-law while mother henning and bam, spirit blood grandkid.
The Gu were a cadet branch.
Given how powerful a sublime is, and the Ice Clan method of creating spirit bloods, there doesn't need to be any boinking. The Phoenix just has to go 'you is muh kid' and the kid learns Phoenix things and then the Phoenix stares intently as daughteru-in-law while mother henning and bam, spirit blood grandkid.
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- Colorado
Okay so until we get WoG on whether the first Lu got it on with his not related by blood bird siblings, Fan Yu may in fact have accidentally called his fiance the N word.
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- Shakopee, MN
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Story wise, it was explained as part Xin giving LQ access to moon arts, and part nudging LQ towards interacting with Zeqing.Chapter 14-Zhou's Trial 3 - Forge of Destiny
She was blind, she couldn’t feel her limbs, and the only sound was the rushing of wind in her ears. Even her grasp of air currents told her nothing. Panic (...)
Seems to me this was Ling Qi's first ridiculous bit of luck. Super qi growth pills and three fricking arts from a prism spirit. Why did Xin give her that stuff in the first place? Was there ten degrees of success on a roll or something?
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Sure, half-spirit beast is different from having a Sublime Ancestor, but it's been pointed out before that the old families know they share common cause: researching how to remove spirit blood is a taboo because the old families have rightly realized that it'd be weaponized against them. By the same token, they're going to do everything in their power to avoid wider oppression of spirit bloods, because any rationale for hate that's stirred up can easily be transferred to them, and no one wants to deal with that. Hence past talk about eventual open conflict between the old spirit-blood families and the Imperial seat, because said old families are chafing at even the current fairly mild level of anti-spirit-blood sentiment.
So, no, "beast" is not as bad as the N word. Not even close. There's no history of societal oppression there to give it power.
So, no, "beast" is not as bad as the N word. Not even close. There's no history of societal oppression there to give it power.
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Uh...yes there very much is such a history.
Not as much of a history as the real world term in question, but all evidence is that systematic discrimination against the unaffiliated spirit blooded is very real and has a history at least as long as the current Imperial family, which is several centuries, hardly a short period of time by reasonable standards.
One only needs to look at Su Ling's childhood of racist abuse from almost everyone she ever met if you don't believe me. What it's not is a slur one would ever use against a ducal scion, which is why I noted above that it's not the same as saying slurs about your fiancée in front of said fiancée, but it very much is a rather unpleasant slur, just one used for a different category of people...one Su Ling very much does fall into.
Chapter 198-Tournament 8 - Forge of Destiny
When she arrived at the main plaza, she found it quite busy, many of the Sect’s visitors drifting toward the main hall at a casual pace, deep in conversation (...)
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Correct. The Mu grabbed the throne 3500 years ago, so they've been fanning the prejudice for thousands of years.
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As far as "going to do everything in their power to avoid wider oppression of spiritbloods" is that while yeah it's in powerful spiritblooded clans' self interest to oppose it, it's not going to be the ONLY thing that is in their self interest and after all, they're going to be massively insulated from the low level stuff by virtue of their power. Almost certainly there were points in those millennia at this point of it being policy where Bai and Zheng, Xuan and Guo COULD have chosen to exert their political power against that oppression... but considered things that at the time more directly benefited them to be more pressing concerns.
It's not exactly a rare thing to see from the rich and powerful members of a group that is otherwise on the outs.
It's not exactly a rare thing to see from the rich and powerful members of a group that is otherwise on the outs.
Oliver_Twister
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Here me out. Fan Yu is interesting because he's a Community cultivator, so we can make him our first lieutenant RIP Shen Hu.
He just needs some confidence, and a Ling Qi Adventure is perfect for that.
He just needs some confidence, and a Ling Qi Adventure is perfect for that.
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Chapter 198-Tournament 8 - Forge of Destiny
When she arrived at the main plaza, she found it quite busy, many of the Sect’s visitors drifting toward the main hall at a casual pace, deep in conversation (...)
Correct. The Mu grabbed the throne 3500 years ago, so they've been fanning the prejudice for thousands of years.
1) Su Ling is not a normal case: she's specifically the child of a spirit that's been eating people and putting her children in the places where those people are eaten. Spirit-bloods could be a class so protected that no one dares so much as give them a mean look and she'd still be shunned in the place where she grew up.
2) "Oppression" is not "people do not like you." Oppression isn't even prejudice or bias or widely-shared dislike, it's a systematic denial of opportunity and power, plus sometimes people up and murder you. And spirit-bloods in general are not getting lynched*, because they have an eight hundred pound gorilla in their corner, and also the Reveler. In fact, with the system of the sects and the strong action taken against hermits and unknown cultivators, pretty much all of them are funneled through a system systematically designed to give them an uncommon degree of power and influence. If there was oppression against spirit-bloods, then they wouldn't be making all of them barons, they'd find some excuse to put them into a parallel, less prestigious system. And if there was oppression against spirit-bloods despite that, we'd be finding that a bunch of new spirit-blood barons are getting put on the most dangerous parts of the borders so they get killed, and we'd already be trying to cultivate them as allies.
(* Again, Su Ling's half-siblings are not a typical case. Some of them have definitely gotten murdered.)
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