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Terraforming first, then Colonization, because trying to terraform while supporting an actual colony will massively complicate things, and just getting to Mars is complex enough.

In all seriousness I'm afraid we'll have to start with colonization first. I feel like terraforming would be a lot more sustainable and affordable if we do it gradually via on-planet processes. Generating greenhouse gases to warm up the planet, for example. And having a colony to operate facilities would help reduce the costs. We can even make some money back if we start mining and resource exploitation early.

Pffft, you inyalowda and your planetary chauvinism. The belt in where it's at! Beltalowda!

Establishing a mining station and shipyard near an asteroid belt would probs be a good idea in order to boost a space-based shipbuilding industry. But maybe a moonbase first. As a sort of transport nexus/launchsite and fuel harvesting operation. Hopefully when we fully develop and figure out Helium 3 as fuel.
 
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Something I am curious about in is Guangchou's history and culture. Because it is remarkable progressive for the time period. Like, exceptionally so even in an era where European colonization was still kinda prevalent. Homosexuality is not only acceptable but marriage between same sex couples is considered normal, woman can have positions of power within the government and military, sex work is legalized. What I want to know is how they got that way. Something in their ancient past that allowed them to be this way? Some unique myths to the region that made such thing acceptable in their culture? Large and prominent progressive movements within previous systems of government?
 
Non-Canon - The Road Not Taken: Take Me to the Stars!
IMPORTANT NOTE: PLAY THIS WHILE READING

The Road Not Taken: Take Me to the Stars!
CLASSIFIED FOOTAGE
Project: KUNLUN
Year: —DATA SCRUBBED—
Location: BAY 0 - DECK 81 - PRIMARY CONTROL ROOM


Lai Tianru watched the clock count down to zero, nearing the end of the year, the dawn of a new era… and the culmination of Project Kunlun.

The collective dream of Guangchou would be fulfilled, the Great Leader's secret promise along with it, and a new era for their people would arise. There would be no turning back at this point. Decades of secrecy, counterintelligence and espionage would be justified as their goal was reached. The hardships and defeats of years past would be avenged and justice would finally be upheld.

Guangchou would rise. Figuratively AND literally.

They all felt the violent rumbling of the earth intensify as the engines rose to their maximum output. Lai Tianru stood proud and tall as her team held tight to railings or gripped, white-knuckled onto the their seat harnesses. The ascent would no doubt be smoother and more comfortable than the Americans and their primitive shuttles and rockets, but for many on Guangchou, they would be less than prepared and taken partially by surprise. No small number of their people would have only learned about the truth a few hours before the launch; a necessary measure to preserve the secrecy and success of the Grand Project and the Monumental Journey they would soon undertake.

The control room's displays indicated that the power plants and engines were fully in-sync and primed for the most rigorous part of the ascent, alongside the steadily rising altimeter. From there, the life support systems, environmental seals and redundancy systems finished initializing and showed green all across the board. Ahead, a new countdown appeared, signaling the final preparations for the Ascent.

Deep within the belly of the beast, a distant whine starting rising, the key piece of technology, central to Kunlun, finally waking up.

As the smallest hint of doubt crept into her mind, Lai Tianru recalled everything she'd sacrificed for the project. No lovers, no children, no life beyond meticulously scheduled meetings and long hours in the bowels of massive and near-mythical technologies and machineries. She was a nobody outside the project, a ghost, nonexistent to the people she'd sworn to serve save for the comparatively few dozen who knew the full extent of Kunlun, and the Great Leader's Plan.

Yes, the Great Leader, this had been as much his obsession as it was hers, a kindred spirit with a desire to see his people rise as grandly as Guangchou was physically about to do…

No regrets, no looking back… only forward.

Within, the main drive's whining noise finally rose to it's peak, energy levels spiking across the screens yet somehow, miraculously, staying within the optimum range. Against all odds, the once fictional, and frankly still near-magical, gravity drive was doing as it was once theorized to do so by some of Germany's most eccentric, yet brilliant, scientists. The drive whirred, the auxiliary engines roared, and the power plants rumbled.

And Guangchou… Guangchou rose…

Through the clouds, through the thinning atmosphere, past orbital paths and over gawking stares and focused cameras broadcasting a sky-splitting event across a shocked world…

…And into the void, to a future unknown, and a fate uncertain… yet with boundless hope.



EDIT: Figured I'd write a What-If scenario as to what our future might have been if we got Walkure. No, I won't write what-ifs about the catfolk project, for that future is inevitable. INEVITABLE.

Anyways, made sure to leave the date uncertain, also, the Great Leader may be our MC, or maybe a descendant or maybe someone else entirely. Either way, Guangchou is Guangchou, and she's on her way to sail the stars.

P.S. Was gonna hijack the moon along the way but figured that'd be a dick move to the people stuck back on Earth.​
 
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Something I am curious about in is Guangchou's history and culture. Because it is remarkable progressive for the time period. Like, exceptionally so even in an era where European colonization was still kinda prevalent. Homosexuality is not only acceptable but marriage between same sex couples is considered normal, woman can have positions of power within the government and military, sex work is legalized. What I want to know is how they got that way. Something in their ancient past that allowed them to be this way? Some unique myths to the region that made such thing acceptable in their culture? Large and prominent progressive movements within previous systems of government?

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Something I am curious about in is Guangchou's history and culture. Because it is remarkable progressive for the time period. Like, exceptionally so even in an era where European colonization was still kinda prevalent. Homosexuality is not only acceptable but marriage between same sex couples is considered normal, woman can have positions of power within the government and military, sex work is legalized. What I want to know is how they got that way. Something in their ancient past that allowed them to be this way? Some unique myths to the region that made such thing acceptable in their culture? Large and prominent progressive movements within previous systems of government?
The Doylist answer is that Guangchou is that way because you made it as such with your unique trait vote.

The Watsonian answer is that Guangchou never repeatedly suffered societal backsliding like most/all of the world. You didn't force the tolerance and (eventual) acceptance and normalization of equality of gender and sexuality within a few short decades/a centuries, with some advances in LGBTQ+ happening within two, but over a thousand+ years.

Thanks to the massive coral reefs around Guangchou, isolationist periods were easy to enforce. Only native sailors would have the needed knowledge of where to sail and when without sinking. As such, troubling times could be sat out, while prosperity would resume when surrounding nations calmed down.

This ability to sit down and wait led to a culture of philosophy and thought, with religion undergoing slow but peaceful transitions between iterations of myth, legend, spirituality, and divinity.

There is also one case of a women-hating king trying to curtail their rights, saying: "The Heavens may strike me down if that is not within their vision for our people!" And then getting brained immediately by a meteor after saying that.

And with all of the above, history took its course, with the acceptance and even celebration of difference becoming expected and normalized. And after the revolution, every worker was encouraged to join or create a union, with some jobs (like the prostitutes) taking advantage of that.

Of course, people tried to stop you (the British, China, Japan, etc.), but it became something to pride yourself on (and feel smug superiority over others). After the communists took over, this titanic head-start in the social revolution was something the people and your father guarded fiercely.

This was theirs. They were the #1 in that aspect of communism, without debate or argument. To be communist was to love people; to be people was to be communist.

Edit: Clarity and Grammar.
 
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As the world closed in on communist ideals, as the USSR collapsed and China struggled to thrive in an increasingly capitalist world, Guangchou realized there was only one true place for communism. Free of greed, free of finite resources, free of scheming rivals… the stars.

—Excerpt from Our Stars, autobiography of Dr. Samuel Okita, 156th Director of the Institute of Sexual Sciences

[X] +2 to any technology.

I'll let the gang decide what tech we'll use it on.
 
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Establishing a mining station and shipyard near an asteroid belt would probs be a good idea in order to boost a space-based shipbuilding industry. But maybe a moonbase first. As a sort of transport nexus/launchsite and fuel harvesting operation. Hopefully when we fully develop and figure out Helium 3 as fuel.

Alas, for the realistic mid-future, cislunar infrastructure is by for the most realistic. The moon has all the aluminum we need (He3 however is a dead end, it's just not needed for fusion: Deuterium-Tritium is by far easier to ignite).

We'll want a reusable rocket, then a spin gravity station, an orbital propellant depot, then a moon base.
 
Alas, for the realistic mid-future, cislunar infrastructure is by for the most realistic. The moon has all the aluminum we need (He3 however is a dead end, it's just not needed for fusion: Deuterium-Tritium is by far easier to ignite).

We'll want a reusable rocket, then a spin gravity station, an orbital propellant depot, then a moon base.

Part of me hopes we can finagle electromagnetic tech, just launch shuttles via massive railgun catapults. In any case, by whatever means, we'll get there. One small step at a time.
 
Part of me hopes we can finagle electromagnetic tech, just launch shuttles via massive railgun catapults. In any case, by whatever means, we'll get there. One small step at a time.
A sub-orbital slingshot transporting orbital aircraft would be much cheaper than firing people and stuff out of a literal cannon. Also, much less prone to killing/destroying the cargo.
 
There is also one case of a women-hating king trying to curtail their rights, saying: "The Heavens may strike me down if that is not within their vision for our people!" And then getting brained immediately by a meteor after saying that.

It's honestly kind of stunning to imagine just how much history could have changed by such an event actually occurring.
 
It's honestly kind of stunning to imagine just how much history could have changed by such an event actually occurring.
It is kind of stunning by how much history hinged on similar events happening. Seriously, if you would put a history book in front of someone that has never heard or read about the past, they would declare the whole thing a well-written fiction, if completely idiotic, convoluted, and crazy.

From the Venician century-long anonymous republic council, to the Mongols popping into existence before logging off just as quick, to the entire Chinese history of shattering and re-building, whatever the fuck the HRE was, to the Egyptian prince yelling "YOLO" before charging his whole army through a choke-point to kill another army in detail (because the enemy commander thought he'd never do that, and broke his army in three parts to cover the middle and sides), all the way to Caesar doing the whole "sieging while being besieged" thing. And don't get me started on the soutpole.

As is said: "Fiction must make sense, History happens."
 
As is said: "Fiction must make sense, History happens."

As the internet once said, "Truth is stranger than fiction."

Is our microchip fabrication already automated, or is it more artisanal?

Now I've got this weird image of an old man hand-sculpting a military-grade computer chip. 🤔
A sub-orbital slingshot transporting orbital aircraft would be much cheaper than firing people and stuff out of a literal cannon. Also, much less prone to killing/destroying the cargo.

Mmm yea, I slingshot was probs the word I was looking for. But in the end, launching a shuttle via an EM slingshot is more or less launching it with a railgun.
 
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As the internet once said, "Truth is stranger than fiction."



Now I've got this weird image of an old man hand-sculpting a military-grade computer chip. 🤔


Mmm yea, I slingshot was probs the word I was looking for. But in the end, launching a shuttle via an EM slingshot is more or less launching it with a railgun.

I mean are they basically sealed spaces filled with nitrogen where silicon goes in one end and microchips come out the other, or do people need to get involved in material handling? :p
(Good to know about automation, means we won't have to tap our limited pool of educated workers.)

Also, rail launch is expensive infrastructurally, if you want to go that route you may as well build an orbital ring for the same price as two nuclear aircraft carriers. :p
 
I mean are they basically sealed spaces filled with nitrogen where silicon goes in one end and microchips come out the other, or do people need to get involved in material handling? :p
(Good to know about automation, means we won't have to tap our limited pool of educated workers.)

Also, rail launch is expensive infrastructurally, if you want to go that route you may as well build an orbital ring for the same price as two nuclear aircraft carriers. :p

S'long as we aren't doing any space elevators, I'm down for anything.
 
Germany kept the Stormtrooper project.

We got the Mechs.

And the Flying Fortress exploded into billions of pieces, alongside all the scientists and documentation.
I don't think we recieved confirmation on who. Just got some clues, like said nation being known for beer. If I remember correctly.
The Looking Back update seems to imply Germany. I don't think anyone can say that Brittain is known for its beer with a straight face.

actually, I tried looking up which nation is known for their beer and it didn't say Germany it said Belgium.
 
1. Why the hate? Isn't the point of space elevators to have efficient throughput?

2. Wouldn't it be worse if the ring broke?
1. Because Space Elevators require very advanced material science, are incresibly expensive, and can cause catastrophic damage if something goes wrong. We have much cheaper options available right now, which aren't taken because they are still extremely pricey.

2. If the ring breaks, you got an orbital thrash ring. Of the elevator breaks, you got a massive cable with titanic resilience whipping around. One is a orbital hazard, the other can destroy a city within moments.
Edit: Am wrong.
 
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*groans*

That's... not how it works. Gods, I'm coming to really hate that scene in Foundation. The elevator is mostly going to burn up and break apart before hitting the ground assuming basic safeguards, explosive bolts will be triggered sequentially to perform a controlled breakup that maximizes the burnup fraction of the tether while casting the rest off into space.
In our case there's a lot of ocean by the equator, so the cutoff would be engineered to put most of the falling side of the tether into the water.

The ring just falls down at terminal velocity. Give it some steerable parachutes and keep the orbital lanes above it clear.
And the ring has higher throughput.
 
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