So.... no plan from me tonight... because I was doing math.
So, normally you would just launch multiple satellites to do stuff, but what I propose is that we instead use larger, intermittently manned stations with modular payload bays. That way all the customer needs to ship up is the payload itself, with power, communications, station keeping, attitude control, etc. provided by the platform.
It means we can also send up crews to service, refuel, and swap out payloads on a regular basis, which means these platforms have much longer operational lifespans, and lower risk.
The basic orbital infrastructure I think we need is:
4 Geostationary Platforms
These would host earth observation and telecommunication payloads that are best served by hanging in one spot above the Earth. High bandwidth comms, radio broadcasts, inter-satellite communications, etc. I'm using 4 instead of 3 platforms to reduce issues with viewing the earth at a steep angle at the edges of their lines of light.
Ballpark mass per platforms is 20 tons.
6 Low Earth Orbit Platforms
These would be arranged in two platforms per orbital plane, covering three sun synchronous orbital planes: morning, noon, and evening. Noon is most useful to civilian observations. Morning and evening however add the ability to observe the length and direction of shadows, which is very useful for more... clandestine imagining purposes.
These cover everything from optical imagery, meteorological radar, ocean wave height measurements, radar terrain mapping, etc.
Ballpark mass per platforms is 20 tons.
24 Medium Earth Orbit Navigational Satellites
These would be arranged in four satellites per orbital plane, covering 6 orbital planes to ensure full coverage of the earth. Basically our version of GPS.
Ballpark mass per platforms is 2 Tons (incredibly overkill, lmao, but I'm leaving myself some wiggle room if I want to do something silly later on)
1 Low Earth Orbit Propellant Depot
I've been looking at launchers and I've found something interesting: Basically every launch on a rocket that has more than 15 tons of payload to LEO is actually a GEO satellite or BLEO science mission. When you run the numbers, the most popular launchers in terms of (total launches) per (payload capacity to LEO bracket) are 5 tons, followed by 10, and 15 tons. And if we have a depot in orbit, we can just refuel the second stage and sent it to GEO without needing a bigger rocket. And propellant transport missions are very good for improving our launch tempo and keeping costs low.
Ballpark mass doesn't matter because it;s going to basically be a cluster of upper stage propellant tanks, which we get basically for free.
So, we're looking at ballpark 248 tons Initial Mass to Low Earth Orbit (IMLEO) for everything besides the propellant depots. Round it up to a nice 300 to account for the propellant depot.
300 tons, with a 10 tons launcher is 30 launches. A bit over once every two weeks if done over one year, which I think is a reasonable launch cadence for an economically viable LV. I'll get into the math of LVs tomorrow tho. I need to go sleep.
I've also done a VERY basic estimate of how to do a (initial) moon shot in a sustainable manner, and it works out to roughly on the order of 300 tons as well. So in theory once we hit our cadence, we can pump out the basics in one year, and then do a moon shot the next. And once we've landed on the moon, we can look for water that we can turn into fuel. At which point the cost of our moon missions becomes 'Lmao, no biggie'.
[ ] Gateway to the star
Imagine a towering structure reaching from the Earth's surface into the cosmos, providing a cost-effective and efficient means of transporting payloads and personnel into space. Unlike conventional rocket launches, which are prohibitively expensive and environmentally taxing, space elevators offer a sustainable solution that drastically reduces the financial and ecological burden of space travel.
(Timeframe: 15 Years Goal: Create a Space Elevator capable of loading multiple tons of resources to the low or high orbit of Earth.)
-Soft Challenge: Orbital shipyard- Create a orbital shipyard capable of building ship in the vacuum of space and deploy it.
-Hard Challenge: I spy with my little eye - finish "Spy With My 3-Meter Eye" in the remaining timeframe.
-Impossible Challenge: to boldly claim the moon - finish both "Moon's Haunted *Loads Rabbit Ears Into Rocket*" and "Spy With My 3-Meter Eye" in the remaining timeframe.
-Nightmare Challenge: Star is within our reach! - finish "To Make Another World Our Own" , "Moon's Haunted *Loads Rabbit Ears Into Rocket*" and "Spy With My 3-Meter Eye" in the remaining timeframe.
The issue is that space elevators on Earth need diamond tethers at minimum.
If you want an infrastructure solution then a lofstrom loop or orbital ring are the way to go, but those have costs measured in multiples of US supercarriers.
For a more tame infrastructure solution, beamed power with funky radiofrequency beams is fairly promising:
(I checked with HC btw, and it's a 12 action mega project to develop these into a functional launch vehicle - through you do unlock other stuff like beamed power for electric airplanes and high altitude flying cellphone towers as you progress through it)
Getting a space-elevator up and running would be a 20 Years Impossible Challenge, and you'd be lucky to make it. They require "diamond tethers are mass-producible" levels of material science to pull off, and you did not go down that path.
Description: Cadendo fungus, commonly known as the threats from tree, bleeding one, shroom meat, buffalo tongue, or tongue mushroom, is an unusual bracket fungus classified in the Agaricales, that is very commonly seen in Guangchou forests and sometime seen in foreign forest it have been introduced into, it looks remarkably similar to a slab of bleeding raw meat.
The cap is 7–45 cm (2,75-17,71 inches) wide and 2–8 cm (0,78-3,14 inches) thick with exptional specimen reching up to 90 cm (35.43 inches) wide. Its shape resembles a large tongue, and it is rough-surfaced with a reddish-brown colour. The spores have dimensions of 7–8.5 by 5–6 μm are pink and are released from minute pores on the creamy-white underside of the fruit body. A younger Cadendo fungus is a pinkish-red colour, and it darkens with age. It bleeds a dull burgundy juice when cut, which can cause stains, and the cut flesh further resembles meat. The flesh have the texture of beef,is a litle sour in taste,edible and considered choice by some, although it need to be cooked to get rid of the halinogenic effect of the mushroom,older specimens should be soaked overnight as their juice can cause gastric upset.
The thick red syrup dripping from the top is very sweet,slightly less halucinogenic than the flesh,gave the mushroom a distinct and pleasent sweet smell and contain a pigment known to have anticoagulant properties similar to heparin.
The underside of the fruiting body, from which the spores are ejected, is a mass of tubules. The genus name is a diminutive of the Latin word fistula and means "small tube", whilst the species name Cadendo fungus means "Dripping mushroom", referring to the constent driping of a syrup like liquid.
The species is very common, and can often be found on oaks,pines and sweet chestnut (though they are very litle kinds of tree it won't grow on) from August to the end of autumn, on either living or dead wood. It has a tendency to impart a reddish-brown stain to the living wood of tree, creating a desirable timber type.
The bleeding one (and the syrup they dripp but only for a dozen hours) are bioluminescent and emit a pale red light,it can be made to grow and fruit in farming and laboratory conditions, and the growth conditions affecting bioluminescence hare curently investigated.
Life cycle:
There are four basic stages to the life cycle of a mushroom: Spore germination, colonisation, fruiting, and sporulation.
SPORE GERMINATION:
Like a plant seed, a bleeding one spore germinates (sprouts) when the environmental conditions are right. High humidity, plus a favourable temperature .
When the spore germinates, a strand of mycelium emerges from it. The strands of mycelium spreads through a substrate, gathering water and nutrients, to be able to produce fruiting bodies (mushrooms).
COLONISATION:
This process of mycelium spreading through a substrate is called colonisation.
Mycelium slowly spreads through its substrate, trying to colonise as much area as possible. The more substrate that a single body of mycelium has colonised, the greater its access to nutrients, and therefore the greater its capacity to produce lots and lots of fruiting bodies (mushrooms) to continue to produce spores and procreate.
FRUITING:
Once the body of mycelium has gained access to enough nutrients, certain environmental conditions will trigger the formation of fruiting bodies, better known as mushrooms.
These environmental conditions involve high humidity and a slight drop in temperature, which is one reason why mushrooms are the most abundant in autumn.
The first stage of a mushroom fruit body is called a hyphal knot. This is when the individual strands of hyphae bundle together and prepare to grow a mushroom.
From there, a small cluster of visible bumps form on the surface of the mycelium. As they grow, they begin to look like miniature mushrooms just a few millimetres in size, known as primordia. These are commonly called 'pins' in the cultivation world.
From this point, provided humidity and temperatures remain favourable, the pins continue to grow into full size mushrooms. Depending on temperatures, and the individual species, this process of a pin growing into a full size mushroom can take anywhere between two days to a week or longer.
SPORULATION
As the mushroom fruit body matures,pores begin to become visible on the underside of the mushroom. They have a 'veil' or a ring around the stem protecting the gills during early growth. But eventually as the cap of the mushroom grows, the pores become exposed and begin to release spores.
Sometimes spores can be released in such vast quantities that they appear as wisps of smoke wafting from the bleeding one pores. It is also common for spore deposits to be visible on the log around the mushroom.
Spores are so small that they are easily carried away in air currents, and once airborne they are capable of travelling just waiting to land in a favourable place to germinate and continue through the life cycle once again.
Habitats:
Bleeding one grow on the trunks and branches of trees, they have two groups of roots, one which attaches them to the trunk and another very long root which descends along the trunk, clinging to it and plunging into the ground in order to spread surrounds the tree and binds itself to the root of their tree in order to provide their part in the mycorrhiza relationship that they have with the tree.
They live in forests, marshes and almost anywhere there are trees and have the kind of weather tipical from Guangchou, their favorite trees are oaks, pine and sweet chestnut but there are very few trees where they will not grow on.
Predators:
Curiously, this mushroom has few predators beyond insects and humans, this could be explained by the psychoactive nature of it's flesh and the syrup it produces, in fact just like with fermented fruits animals such as wild boars, muntjacks, monkeys, shrooms, bats, squirels, etc. seem to appreciate the recreational effects of ingesting said syrup and seem to either understand that if they eat the mushroom completely it will not be able to produce more syrup afterward or understand that since the flesh is more concentrated in psychoactive (which can only be neutralized by cooking) they will have a trip more powerful than what they would like, given the testimony repeated throughout history and confirmed by recent field studies of very young animals completely intoxicated, the second theory seems confirmed for the moment even if it seems that this is more of an learned thing than an instinctive one, but the first theory has not yet been proven false, in any case only a truly starving animal will eat more than a very small part of it.
Food:
They are a rare exemple of Polypore forming an mycorrhiza relationship with trees,wich is a symbiotic association between a green plant and a fungus. The plant makes organic molecules by photosynthesis and supplies them to the fungus in the form of sugars or lipids, while the fungus supplies the plant with water and mineral nutrients, such as phosphorus, taken from the soil,this symbiosis has been discovered to be good for the tree wich thanks to the aditional nutrient delivered by the mushroom can grow stronger and is less likely to fall sick.
Interesting anecdotes:
Experiments aimed at studying the effects of nutrients present, growing conditions, temperature, age and others on the color of the luminescence of the bleeding one have had promising results with increasing in emited light and specimens glowing in orange and purple having been obtained.
This mushroom has been used on numerous occasions against the invaders of Guangchou when it was decided more advantageous to sow confusion than to kill them via poisons, the most common way was to press the mushroom to obtain the juice and syrup then to cover arrows and darts with it and shoot them at the enemy before retreating until this has its effect,another one was to reduce the mushroom to a powder and send infiltrators to sprinkle their food and fresh water reserve with it and then took advantage of the confusion that followed,they where also attempts at creating metsubushi (a technique used to temporarily or permanently blind or disorient an opponent by using a small containers like an hollowed-out eggs (happō), bamboo tubes or other wich is filled with a powder made up of ashes, ground-up pepper, mud, flour,dirt,etc. For severe damage, it could also include fine-ground glass. When confronted by an attacker, a person would blow the metsubushi in the attacker's eyes, blinding them.) with mushroom powder wich had a relative sucess due to the psychoactive powder not working very well through lungs but the idea was recycled to be used with other more agresive substances.
Many many families in Guangchou have family recipes on how to make candy, jam, fruit pastes, and others from the syrup of bleeding one, both versions where the syrup is cooked to neutralize the psychoactive for children as well as more "spicy" for adults, it is considered a tradition of teaching teenagers of a certain age the different recipes both to spend a moment of family bonding and to prevent them from trying something stupid in their corners without assistance.
The psychoactive effects of mushroom come from two molecules, psilocybin and psilocin. When psilocybin is ingested, it is broken down by the liver in a process called dephosphorylation. The resulting compound is called psilocin, responsible for the psychedelic effects. Psilocybin and psilocin create short-term increases in tolerance of users, thus making it difficult to misuse them because the more often they are taken within a short period, the weaker the resultant effects are. Psilocybin mushrooms have not been known to cause physical or psychological dependence. The psychedelic effects appear around 20 minutes after ingestion and can last up to 6 hours. Physical effects may occur, including nausea, vomiting, euphoria, muscle weakness or relaxation, drowsiness, and lack of coordination.
As with many psychedelic substances, the effects of psychedelic mushrooms are subjective and can vary considerably among individual users but in the case of this mushroom it depends also if you take the flesh of the mushroom or the syrup, in fact the syrup contains much less of the psychoactive product and therefore has softer and shorter effects. The mind-altering effects of psilocybin-containing mushrooms typically last from three to eight hours, depending on dosage, preparation method, and personal metabolism. The first 3–4 hours after ingestion are typically referred to as the 'peak'—in which the user experiences more vivid visuals and distortions in reality. The effects can seem to last much longer for the user because of psilocybin's ability to alter time perception.
Sensory effects include visual and auditory hallucinations followed by emotional changes and altered perception of time and space. Noticeable changes to the auditory, visual, and tactile senses may become apparent around 30 minutes to an hour after ingestion, although effects may take up to two hours to take place. These shifts in perception visually include enhancement and contrasting of colors, strange light phenomena (such as auras or "halos" around light sources), increased visual acuity, surfaces that seem to ripple, shimmer, or breathe; complex open and closed eye visuals of form constants or images, objects that warp, morph, or change solid colors; a sense of melting into the environment, and trails behind moving objects. Sounds may seem to have increased clarity—music, for example, can take on a profound sense of cadence and depth. Some users experience synesthesia, in which they perceive, for example, a visualization of color upon hearing a particular sound.
As with other psychedelics such as LSD, the experience, or 'trip,' is strongly dependent upon set and setting. Hilarity, lack of concentration, and muscular relaxation (including dilated pupils) are all normal effects, sometimes in the same trip. A negative environment could contribute to a bad trip, whereas a comfortable and familiar environment would set the stage for a pleasant experience. Psychedelics make experiences more intense, so if a person enters a trip in an anxious state of mind, they will likely experience heightened anxiety on their trip. Many users find it preferable to ingest the mushrooms with friends or people familiar with 'tripping.' The psychological consequences of psilocybin use include hallucinations and an inability to discern fantasy from reality. Panic reactions and psychosis also may occur, particularly if a user ingests a large dose. In addition to the risks associated with the ingestion of psilocybin, individuals who seek to use psilocybin mushrooms also risk poisoning if one of the wide varieties of poisonous mushrooms is confused with a psilocybin mushroom.
Bleeding ones syrup has always been a very popular sweet among the Guang and a commercial product, the main reason being that for a very long time apart from honey it was the only source of sweetness with this level of sugar existing, and mushrooms sting you much less than bees, archaeological evidence has shown that the consumption of this syrup dates back at least 150,000 years, and this was before they discovered that by cooking it you suppressed the psychoactive effects of this syrup. which it seem was discovered between 140,000 and 130,000 years ago and led to a sharp increase in consumption, which unfortunately led to a certain number of cavities and dental problems among the locals of the time but also explains the large quantity dental care equipment found by archaeologists.
The use of dried Bleeding one flesh in ceremonies, rituals, philosophical journeys and others during which said dried mushrooms are either burned and the resulting vapors breathed or smoked or eaten dates back more than 11,000 years,it was dicovered thanks to the ruins of a prehistoric setlement disocered in the south of guangchou in wichit seem that a particulare hut was utulized for rituals involving burning and breathing the mushroom,it's theorized thanks to the evidence discoverd when analizing the ground composition,indeed in where the hut used to be it's satured with some molecule that when analized revealed to be precisely the one obtened in Bleeding one ashes.
The flesh of Bleeding one visually very similar to beef also has the texture, particularly once cooked, The particular slightly bitter taste so appreciated by some is known to go really well with curry. I would be happy to hear any constructive critisism or modification suggestion if i missed something or got it wrong.
Hope you like it.
So space elevator go on the shelf for the time being...
Well my votes go to either of this
[] I Spy With My 3-Meter Eye...
- Hard or impossible
[] To Make Another World Our Own
- Hard or Impossible
Pretty sure we got Vertical farming tech with a bit of cooperation with Cypac we might get a full nuclear reactor in space. Might as well make it Cypac interstellar space station with it own artificial gravity via spinning.
Waiting for someone with more knowledge then me make a plan.
Am at work so I can't threadmark it yet, but looks like a neat addition to me. One thing though: our species isn't even 80k years old, how did evidence of dried plants being used to get high survive for 110k when it's mostly bone and stone on that timescale outside of rare "closed in amber/frozen" instances? Did you mean to write 10k, but accidentally add another 1?
Am at work so I can't threadmark it yet, but looks like a neat addition to me. One thing though: our species isn't even 80k years old, how did evidence of dried plants being used to get high survive for 110k when it's mostly bone and stone on that timescale outside of rare "closed in amber/frozen" instances? Did you mean to write 10k, but accidentally add another 1?
I though it would be like they found a old prehistoric village with a particulare hut locztion where ground was satured with some molecule they analized and discover it was the hut in wich they smoked,but i guess it's too unlikely,take off a 0
I though it would be like they found a old prehistoric village with a particulare hut locztion where ground was satured with some molecule they analized and discover it was the hut in wich they smoked,but i guess it's too unlikely,take off a 0
I though it would be like they found a old prehistoric village with a particulare hut locztion where ground was satured with some molecule they analized and discover it was the hut in wich they smoked,but i guess it's too unlikely,take off a 0
Don't do this. It's just really shitty. For all that Apollo was a giant dick waving contest, it was still a monumental technical achievement and a major historical milestone that meant a lot to a lot of people.
We could, Iridium is a thing after all, but I don't think we should.
It's only 4 actions to develop power beaming to high altitude long endurance drones that can act as cell towers, and those are a cheaper way to get that sort of coverage without cluttering up LEO.
I have a few questions if it's okay :
1:Are they mecha or wolsmench in it ? or guang people in the resistance,maybe people where more prepared to the nuclear apocalypse than in the original movie ?,or other change caused by altenate history of the quest ?
2:Also if it's not rude can i ask what is the bonus of the omake ?or the posibility i will have to chooses between like with the tiger one?,if you have already choosen what it will be of course,i'm realy curious
3:does guang apear in american/ocidental movie,books and culture like china and urss does ?
4 does the spaceodrom include space comunication/observation infrastructure ?like telescopes, parabolas and other things like that?
5:if I understood correctly they sent the materials and prefabricated pieces from the urrs to be assembled on site right?, did they also send the workers or local employees, a mixture of the two?
6:Have they coordinated with the Guangchou agencies so that it complies with local standards?
7: do we have to worry about the usual problems with big Soviet projects? (the installation is not up to standard at all because of shortcuts taken everywhere to meet deadlines and corruption)
Are they mecha or wolsmench in it ? or guang people in the resistance,maybe people where more prepared to the nuclear apocalypse than in the original movie ?,or other change caused by altenate history of the quest ?
Also if it's not rude can i ask what is the bonus of the omake ?or the posibility i will have to chooses between like with the tiger one?,if you have already choosen what it will be of course,i'm realy curious
edit does guang apear in american/ocidental movie,books and culture like china and urss does ?
edit2: does the spaceodrom include space comunication/observation infrastructure ?like telescopes, parabolas and other things like that?
if I understood correctly they sent the materials and prefabricated pieces from the urrs to be assembled on site right?, did they also send the workers or local employees, a mixture of the two?
Have they coordinated with the Guangchou agencies so that it complies with local standards?
Do we have to worry about the usual problems with big Soviet projects? (the installation is not up to standard at all because of shortcuts taken everywhere to meet deadlines and corruption)
Okay, in order:
Terminator 1 does not have Lupi or Mech, but 2 and onwards do. Mech are the junkyard no-pilot/operator-cover with dual gatling guns variants, while the Lupi are enslaved and used by Skynet as hunter-killers of important humans as well as terror weapons. There are no Guang or even a mention of Guangchou beyond a mention that the country was nuked the first to remove any chance of it resisting/rising with a chance of winning. (The nuclear disarmament also didn't happen in that movie's timeline.)
The bonus are (because I forgot to give them):
[] +2 to any Plant-Based Action
[] +2 to any Medical-Based Action.
Guangchou does appear in movies abroad, but its a coinflip between HEDONISTIC ORGY 24/7 and Yeah, We Have Sexbian Lex Here.
The cosmodrome is equipped with all the things it needs to function. And the USSR sent the materials and the workers, with your people standing 4 feet apart from them 'cause you are gay while observing that they actually do their work and don't cut corners. It is, as far as you are concerned, sturdy and will keep working as intended for about 15-20 years if you don't do more than basic maintenance.
[X] Plan: You Spin That Station Right Round, Baby, Right Round
edited: change goal.
So I end up choosing satellite due to short term gain. Aiming for Hard or Impossible challenge. This also is a CyPac group project, think about it all the CyPac countries now got their own satellite system.
Edit: why I choose hard or impossible? I want A-SAT defense system set up to shoot down any missiles or other satellites.
Edit 2: there also a phrase that repeat many time already about who control air superiority control the war, well it time to give you another 'Those who control orbital control the planet'
Also can we somehow build a massive mass driver cannon or cargo railgun on planet side to send unmanned object to space? We can add cargo container that got its own thruster to slow and stop the container in orbit or outside earth gravity. (There probably lot of g force so human probably not survive but resources that will probably work)
I hate rocket design.. my head are full of sci fi rocket which is not helping the case at all.
[X] CyPac space program ignition
- [X] I Spy With My 3-Meter Eye...
- [X] Suggest CyPac Collaboration (50% funding)
So I end up choosing satellite due to short term gain. Aiming for Hard or Impossible challenge. This also is a CyPac group project, think about it all the CyPac countries now got their own satellite system.
Edit: why I choose hard or impossible? I want A-SAT defense system set up to shoot down any missiles or other satellites.
Also can we somehow build a massive mass driver cannon or cargo railgun on planet side to send unmanned object to space? We can add cargo container that got its own thruster to slow and stop the container in orbit or outside earth gravity. (There probably lot of g force so human probably not survive but resources that will probably work)
I hate rocket design.. my head are full of sci fi rocket which is not helping the case at all.
Military use does not have to mean orbital weapons. We *could* go against the Outer Space Treaty, but I don't see what we'd get out of kicking off a weapons race in space.
There a outer space treaty?!
Well thank now I know and it only count toward WMD like nuke or bio weapon. Well.. what about Military sat about keeping peace that shot down any missiles aiming at Cypac countires? Interception missiles work and also if nuke detonate in space there no radiation just a temporary sattelite blackout due to shockwave.
