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What advantages does a legged tank give exactly I think I missed it besides cool factor?
None, and arguably even less.
But y'all voted for Big Stompy Mecha, so y'all will now be able to design Big Stompy Mecha with me slightly handwaving the weight issue to allow the fun to happen.

Also, you can build the Iron Tigers like 40k Centurions/Dreadnaughts, Big Power Armors With Big Gun.

You don't have to build them 10 Meters high, you can do three and slap a big cannon on them.
 
Some ideas for people to peruse/get inspired by (Because I am going to bed now):
3-Meter tall Humanoid Anti-Infantry.
3-Meter tall Sextupedal Tank Hunter.
3-Meter tall Sextupedal Long-Range Platform.
5-Meter tall Humanoid AT/AV-Ambusher.
5-Meter tall Quadrupedal Anti-Infantry.
6-Meter tall Quadrupedal Hunter-Killer.
10-Meter tall Octapedal Heavy Artillery Platform.
 
Can we go for a modular one? One we can convert into a recovery and repair vehicle seems the most economical. Something fast and small as well, capable of taking out tanks at the very least, mount some light artillery, maybe mortars, use anti-air or close-in anti-infantry gear like flamethrowers. It doesn't need to be expensive, but it's best if it's something easy to manufacture, our Iron Tiger workhorse.
 
Can we go for a modular one? One we can convert into a recovery and repair vehicle seems the most economical. Something fast and small as well, capable of taking out tanks at the very least, mount some light artillery, maybe mortars, use anti-air or close-in anti-infantry gear like flamethrowers. It doesn't need to be expensive, but it's best if it's something easy to manufacture, our Iron Tiger workhorse.
I see no reason we can't do many versions. We are just stating what the very FIRST will be. And for that a Tiger design is appropriate.

My preferred miner design would look similar to the TMNT cartoon driller thing Shredder used to invade and get away. But with ore collection.
 
Iron Tiger Compound Wars
Iron Tiger Compound Wars

Heinrich Braun was a humble man. He did not aspire to much, only to contribute something of worth to his new home and adopted peoples.

Having migrated to Guangchou along with the Institute's staff and their families as a young child, he'd grown to love the island and it's grim but compassionate people. He hoped to prove that welcoming him and his family was not a mistake. To earn his place here, even if no one demanded such a price for their welcome.

Having learned engineering, manufacturing and the design of machines from both fellow German expats and more formal education, he was naturally chosen to become part of the Iron Tiger project.

He'd been ecstatic, more so after learning about the true origins of the prototypes from his father's colleague, Dr. Smith. Not even he knew the full details of how the previous Great Leader acquired the plans, but their originating from Germany itself had been confirmed.

It was an honor, then, that he'd been chosen to help conceptualize then design the final look and technical details of the first native model, the first to be manufactured en masse, or at least as numerously as feasible. It would both give him a chance to repay his new home, as well as to redeem, at least in small part, a tool that had once been meant to inflict untold suffering and death in the name of genocide. It was an honorable task. A worthy goal.

Heinrich continued to repeat these thoughts as he tried not to go mad with stress.

He'd known the conflicts between the research groups. The conflicting design philosophies. The rivalries.

That there had yet to be a death was a miracle. The Great Leader's efforts to keep the peace a valiant, and ongoing, battle. But now this brewing conflict had nestled at his shores.

He glanced at the pile of notes, sketches and diagrams detailing what the research groups thought he should include in the design. Something about it being the "smart" and "logical" thing to do. Each and every one of them.

But Heinrich Braun had seen the "prototype" the research teams had created. He knew better than to simply acquiesce.

As he tried to massage his temples and the revitalized headache within, he thought back to the eclectic collection of ridiculous promises, scandalous bribes, and subtle threats hidden within the research teams' missives. While he could not outright agree to all of them, he couldn't just outright tell them no.

One of the teams proposed an all-terrain model. One that could navigate their island home's soil as if it were a native animal perfectly adapted to it. A challenging requirement, but reasonable and worth pursuing.

But then came more ideas. A second team was insisting they mount the heaviest and longest-ranging guns they could on the model. With the most amount of ammunition it could carry, for ranged warfare. Also a reasonable demand. Equally worth pursuing. But not as much if it needed to be combined with the first requirement.

Then another team suggested they make a quadrupedal model. Another headache, that. While the original notes theorized on such a model, it had never reached prototyping stage. It would require a completely new design, a new prototype and further refinement before they could even begin making a mass production model.

It certainly didn't help that yet another team insisted on adding another pair of legs.

Throughout it all, the Great Leader had deigned to remain silent, simply allowing the various teams to verbalize their opinions and insults. And Heinrich had no choice but to field those verbalizations himself as representatives from the teams continued to barge into his corner of the facility at all times of the day. They'd even taken to posting sentries around his little hole so as to ensure the other teams didn't steal a march on them.

Heinrich couldn't even go out anymore. He risked being ambushed and cornered by one of the teams. All the while, he continued going through multiple designs, revisions and crumpled paper, his mind fraying as he lost sleep to worry, stress and the constant, 24-hour "visits" from his so-called colleagues. In the end, he could only hope for one thing.

He dearly hoped the Great Leader would forward his opinion soon. Only he could overrule everyone and insist on his own decision without inciting a civil war within the compound, at least from the research teams. Everyone else was too busy being morbidly enamored by what was currently happening. So really, only the Great Leader could save him from this predicament.

After all, while he would gladly toil and bleed for his new home, he could very well be martyred if this situation continued as it is.

A noble, yet regretful end for Heinrich Braun, indeed.

Note: lol I couldnt help but remember Pentagon Wars when reading through everyone's opinions on the new model. XD
 
I could totes imagine myself writing an omake about a local villager sighting one while in the forests and thinking it's some mythical gigantic tiger and then spreading the legend. 😂

BEWARE THE TIGER GOD
Probably sighted while doing a test run thru the Jungle in a mock defensive battle of having to fend off several bombing runs with limited Iron Tigers.
Wouldn't be surprised if the Fat-Kai family made up a few legends over the years...
 
Hey guys, first time posting on the site. Just had a few ideas to throw around(on the country management bits, i suck at mech design)

Ideas:
- vaccination/immunization campaigns (cheap, easy, great PR and very effective)

- deal with cuba for a medical student exchange(cuba basically craps out doctors and nurses, theyre shit but waay better than the total lack of doctors we have)

- water management infrastructure (i havent seen us do anything in regards to this and is probably the reason a lot of people die of dysentery). Managment could be water sanitation or just water drainage systems so that a monsoon doesnt flood half our country


-indirect trade with vietnam via swedish foreign aid(iirc the swedes sent aid to north Vietnam during the war and told the us to sod off basically) we can add another layer of country to stay away from entanglement.,in the end wed be selling food through sweeden so i dont think they will have a problem with it)

-a cartoon that enfasizes healthy eating like popeye (or condorito in chile). Our people may not be starving, but without proper nutrition diets we will be a nation of idiots no matter the education budget(check out CONIN foundation if you dont believe me)

- home self reliance and repair manual. (Iirc the cubans had this book where you have diy guide to everything from plumbing to electritian to car mechanic and simple household items)

-forming a statistics bureau with help from the technocrats. should give us a much better idea of what is killing our people and what things will not hurt them too much while making us rich

- technical and rural schools ( in an underdeveloped nation as ours, the demand for mecanics plumbers electritians and machine operators is much higher and attainable in the medium term in comparison to economists and fully fledged engineers which require universities.

- a military core of engineers could also be very useful once we inevitably start mass producing housing or some mega proyect while giving us brownie points with the military

-construct a merchant marine. We have a harbour, we have a navy, and we will soon have exports. Lets build the logistic infrastructure to support those exports.

- buying old Russian trucks for our logistics.
While im sure producing our own cars and trucks domestically is cool, for the same price we can buy the old soviet trucks from the russians as they modernize their logistic fleet.


Welp, those were my ideas, take them or leave them no ones mad here :) just hope my first post was worth something in the end.
 
Iron Tiger concept art.
no reason not to do a Quad mech


Hmmm… on the bright side, the leg assemblies will be a lot more streamlined since each leg would bear a lot of similarities, hind or front. Potential problem though is agility and turning. There's no way we can guarantee a win in close quarters in enclosed areas like urban warfare. This kind of mecha is best suited for wide open plains or anti-air in dense forests/jungles. It would be very well suited to artillery roles though. And AA even in open terrain. A flat-ish horizontal back would be very useful for that. The weapons below on the chest can be an armor piercing autocannon to serve as a secondary weapon nicely. Maybe smoke dispensers on the 'shoulder' of each leg then? For added survivability. Can't add 'sideskirt' armor though. Would interfere with leg movement. But maybe on the legs themselves. Also maybe the tail can be used as a… towing cable? Maybe help right a fellow mech if it falls to its sides? Then we make sure they travel in packs. Or pairs which feels more appropriate for the more solo real-life tigers.
 
Hey guys, first time posting on the site. Just had a few ideas to throw around(on the country management bits, i suck at mech design)

Ideas:
- vaccination/immunization campaigns (cheap, easy, great PR and very effective)

- deal with cuba for a medical student exchange(cuba basically craps out doctors and nurses, theyre shit but waay better than the total lack of doctors we have)

- water management infrastructure (i havent seen us do anything in regards to this and is probably the reason a lot of people die of dysentery). Managment could be water sanitation or just water drainage systems so that a monsoon doesnt flood half our country


-indirect trade with vietnam via swedish foreign aid(iirc the swedes sent aid to north Vietnam during the war and told the us to sod off basically) we can add another layer of country to stay away from entanglement.,in the end wed be selling food through sweeden so i dont think they will have a problem with it)

-a cartoon that enfasizes healthy eating like popeye (or condorito in chile). Our people may not be starving, but without proper nutrition diets we will be a nation of idiots no matter the education budget(check out CONIN foundation if you dont believe me)

- home self reliance and repair manual. (Iirc the cubans had this book where you have diy guide to everything from plumbing to electritian to car mechanic and simple household items)

-forming a statistics bureau with help from the technocrats. should give us a much better idea of what is killing our people and what things will not hurt them too much while making us rich

- technical and rural schools ( in an underdeveloped nation as ours, the demand for mecanics plumbers electritians and machine operators is much higher and attainable in the medium term in comparison to economists and fully fledged engineers which require universities.

- a military core of engineers could also be very useful once we inevitably start mass producing housing or some mega proyect while giving us brownie points with the military

-construct a merchant marine. We have a harbour, we have a navy, and we will soon have exports. Lets build the logistic infrastructure to support those exports.

- buying old Russian trucks for our logistics.
While im sure producing our own cars and trucks domestically is cool, for the same price we can buy the old soviet trucks from the russians as they modernize their logistic fleet.


Welp, those were my ideas, take them or leave them no ones mad here :) just hope my first post was worth something in the end.

excellent points. especially the cuban medical pros. maybe we can get all chummy chummy with castro. Or che guevarra if he survived this timeline. Also, cuban cigars.

as for water management, there's also cholera to worry about.

for the trucks, maybe we can license soviet designs and manufacture them ourselves. we have the industry for it. and tanks wont be as large a priority with mechas as the ace up our sleeves
 
I would recommend the 3 meter humanoid anti infantry. It seems like something that is both easy to manufacture and maintain while having a lot of utility.

I think that we need a workhorse, something reliable and effective for use in a variety of situations. Not necessarily the fastest, strongest, stealthiest, or most dangerous mech, but one that will always be useful. Every construction site uses something like a backhoe, because of the extremely wide range of tasks it can accomplish, even if it isn't a specialized excavator, loader, bulldozer, or other construction vehicle.

We need something that can go from a mining mech, to an anti-infantry unit, to a tree cutting and loading unit, to anything a large metal man would be useful for with a day of refit and about as much trouble to fix when it breaks as a tractor.
 
I would recommend the 3 meter humanoid anti infantry. It seems like something that is both easy to manufacture and maintain while having a lot of utility.

I think that we need a workhorse, something reliable and effective for use in a variety of situations. Not necessarily the fastest, strongest, stealthiest, or most dangerous mech, but one that will always be useful. Every construction site uses something like a backhoe, because of the extremely wide range of tasks it can accomplish, even if it isn't a specialized excavator, loader, bulldozer, or other construction vehicle.

We need something that can go from a mining mech, to an anti-infantry unit, to a tree cutting and loading unit, to anything a large metal man would be useful for with a day of refit and about as much trouble to fix when it breaks as a tractor.

I did write something bout a 3-meter unit in one of the omakes and envisioned it as a sort of urban warfare type that could also be modified into a civilian model for heavy duty stuff like construction or mining. Maybe even as a dive suit since it would have its own sealed environment for the pilot in the event of a nuclear, biological or chemical threat. Or to seal a human compatible atmosphere for extreme environments like underwater or space. Not much stopping power if it tries to go up against armored vehicles in open terrain, but would be very deadly in urban warfare. Even the civilian variants could be deadly. Think starcraft SCV's. XD
 
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Ya know when I envisioned throwi military and common workers and so on on the team I figured they give us a few different options. Not argue indefinitely in trying to come up with just 1.

How about this for our choices?

Dear Great Leader Wei-sama,
After much discussion and prototype building we have come to agree 3 possible choices thus far. I have assembled notes for your perusal and very much hope for some positive feed back to begin building. Or failing that, to at least know what direction to take the project in. As per protocol I have only sent this to your private terminal connected to WEISOFT. I happily anticipate your reply at your convenience.
Sincerely yours,
Heinrich Braun.
P.S.
One of our engineers saw a note you may have scribbled in the margins of you notes stating "needs more speed". Assuming this is true, she has requested the acceptance of a small time chemist she says is trustworthy to join us. She believes this chemist would be most helpful in making some kind of "Thunder Fuel" to add booster rockets for short bursts of speed that supposedly cover tens of meters in seconds even with the mech's tonnage. I've already filed The name and contact info in the proper employment recommendations and request folder.
P.S.S.
I've looked this person up and have noted several times the police have been called for noise complaints that sounds like "thunder or a bomb going off" and sometimes arrested for suspicion of bomb making. So at least whatever it is this person does is currently potent if unstable.


Proposal #1
3-Meter tall Modular Service Humanoid Mech
A mech made with our low funds in mind to be average in all affairs with several hard points for installation for weapons, sensory, mining, farming and can be hermetically sealed with aquatic equipment to dive into the water. Whatever our Great Lord requires it to be. Our Tigers have never let us down and our Iron Tigers will serve us however needed. And with the various modifications that will no doubt be taken with this? Over time it will prove the most steadfast and reliable model for decades to come. The "AK-47" of Mecha of you will.
This one has the most, shall we say, rounded support as it can do alotta things with great potential. Just nothing specific to any one criteria the various individuals want. So a variable Mecha for various jobs.

Proposal #2
3-Meter tall Sextupedal Tank Hunter.
A fast paced Tiger bot well deserving of the name of Iron Tiger. It's is built for speed and fast deployment. With an emphasis on heavy fire power and stronger legs, jaw, and neck. For ripping and tearing. Still fast, but built for strength and more armoured. Front 2 sets of paws are more articulated for griping with an experimental system to super heat the claws of the middle set. The Jaws have the same chainsaws as the long range version but the jaw is capable of 3000 pounds of pressure and the neck allows a pulling force of 4000. It comes equiped with a main weapon of a double barreled anti tank cannon turret on its back. A double barreled javelin missile system hanging off it's chest with 2 already loaded and 8 more ready to be loaded. It's also possess a radar jammer and it's tail releases a billowing smokescreen from a tank located in it's hips to help cover it's tracks in the situation it must retreat. Furthermore the back of the mouth has a deployment system the design team lovingly calls "The Hair-Ball Cougher" what it is is mortar\grenade launcher using a robust spring board rather than more modern launching systems. Deployed at range it only goes 15 to 20 ft. The idea is that it runs across a squad of enemy soldiers or encampment it will deploy a few before running off for the Tanks it's built for and in the case it manages to cleave a hole or rip the top off a tank? It just drops one of these in and everybody dies. We are having some difficulty removing the accompanying sound effects of a cat hurling up a hairball when deployed. Perhaps you can talk to the engineers and programmers and share your wisdom with them?

Proposal #3
3-Meter tall Sextupedal Long-Range Platform.
A fast paced Tiger bot well deserving of the name of Iron Tiger. It's is built for speed and fast deployment. Equiped with 4 ground to air missiles on it's hips, a semi-rotating long range FLAK gun sitting on the middle of its back with the most room for ammo allocated for this gun. The mech provides a fast paced way to get our weapons out there in case of a emergency and uses it's low profile and speed to avoid getting hit. To attack then change locations before it can get counter attacked. Often using the jungle and terrain to hide itself. It is of course carries an advance sonar and radar to detect incoming planes and missiles in addition to optical sensor from it's "eyes" and a number of hidden optics along it's body. It also has a number of flares loaded onto it's butt to throw off heat seeking missiles and an early phalanx rotating machine gun between it's front shoulder blades for anti missiles or the rare instance of surprise attacks on the ground. Naturally it has retractable claws on it's feet and a mouth with a bite of 1200 pounds of pressure with alloyed teeth fold many times by our craftsmen and 6 (a upper and lower set of 3 each) individual chainsaws set behind the teeth and sticking out just from the base.
 
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Ya know when I envisioned throwi military and common workers and so on on the team I figured they give us a few different options. Not argue indefinitely in trying to come up with just 1.

How about this for our choices?

Dear Great Leader Wei-sama,
After much discussion and prototype building we have come to agree 3 possible choices thus far. I have assembled notes for your perusal and very much hope for some positive feed back to begin building. Or failing that, to at least know what direction to take the project in. As per protocol I have only sent this to your private terminal connected to WEISOFT. I happily anticipate your reply at your convenience.
Sincerely yours,
Heinrich Braun.
P.S.
One of our engineers saw a note you may have scribbled in the margins of you notes stating "needs more speed". Assuming this is true, she has requested the acceptance of a small time chemist she says is trustworthy to join us. She believes this chemist would be most helpful in making some kind of "Thunder Fuel" to add booster rockets for short bursts of speed that supposedly cover tens of meters in seconds even with the mech's tonnage. I've already filed The name and contact info in the proper employment recommendations and request folder.
P.S.S.
I've looked this person up and have noted several times the police have been called for noise complaints that sounds like "thunder or a bomb going off" and sometimes arrested for suspicion of bomb making. So at least whatever it is this person does is currently potent if unstable.


Proposal #1
3-Meter tall Modular Service Humanoid Mech
A mech made with our low funds in mind to be average in all affairs with several hard points for installation for weapons, sensory, mining, farming and can be hermetically sealed with aquatic equipment to dive into the water. Whatever our Great Lord requires it to be. Our Tigers have never let us down and our Iron Tigers will serve us however needed. And with the various modifications that will no doubt be taken with this? Over time it will prove the most steadfast and reliable model for decades to come. The "AK-47" of Mecha of you will.

Proposal #2
3-Meter tall Sextupedal Tank Hunter.
A fast paced Tiger bot well deserving of the name of Iron Tiger. It's is built for speed and fast deployment. With an emphasis on heavy fire power and stronger legs, jaw, and neck. For ripping and tearing. Still fast, but built for strength and more armoured. Front 2 sets of paws are more articulated for griping with an experimental system to super heat the claws of the middle set. The Jaws have the same chainsaws as the long range version but the jaw is capable of 3000 pounds of pressure and the neck allows a pulling force of 4000. It comes equiped with a main weapon of a double barreled anti tank cannon turret on its back. A double barreled javelin missile system hanging off it's chest with 2 already loaded and 8 more ready to be loaded. It's also possess a radar jammer and it's tail releases a billowing smokescreen from a tank located in it's hips to help cover it's tracks in the situation it must retreat. Furthermore the back of the mouth has a deployment system the design team lovingly calls "The Hair-Ball Cougher" what it is is mortar\grenade launcher using a robust spring board rather than more modern launching systems. Deployed at range it only goes 15 to 20 ft. The idea is that it runs across a squad of enemy soldiers or encampment it will deploy a few before running off for the Tanks it's built for and in the case it manages to cleave a hole or rip the top off a tank? It just drops one of these in and everybody dies. We are having some difficulty removing the accompanying sound effects of a cat hurling up a hairball when deployed. Perhaps you can talk to the engineers and programmers and share your wisdom with them?

Proposal #3
3-Meter tall Sextupedal Long-Range Platform.
A fast paced Tiger bot well deserving of the name of Iron Tiger. It's is built for speed and fast deployment. Equiped with 4 ground to air missiles on it's hips, a semi-rotating long range FLAK gun sitting on the middle of its back with the most room for ammo allocated for this gun. The mech provides a fast paced way to get our weapons out there in case of a emergency and uses it's low profile and speed to avoid getting hit. To attack then change locations before it can get counter attacked. Often using the jungle and terrain to hide itself. It is of course carries an advance sonar and radar to detect incoming planes and missiles in addition to optical sensor from it's "eyes" and a number of hidden optics along it's body. It also has a number of flares loaded onto it's butt to throw off heat seeking missiles and an early phalanx rotating machine gun between it's front shoulder blades for anti missiles or the rare instance of surprise attacks on the ground. Naturally it has retractable claws on it's feet and a mouth with a bite of 1200 pounds of pressure with alloyed teeth fold many times by our craftsmen and 6 (a upper and lower set of 3 each) individual chainsaws set behind the teeth and sticking out just from the base.

The bickering I had in mind was sort of to reflect the various suggestions and arguments us readers would have for the first design. True, we're not clawing at each other, but the conflict was more to show how much the various readers believed in their own proposals and the justifications they had. All the suggestions have merit, but also everyone wishes for their proposals to be the first, even though that would be impossible. Meanwhile MC's final decision reflects us readers voting on the one choice.

That and honestly it seemed kinda boring if people just calmly accepted yea. This is mecha, it gets everyone's blood pumping. :rofl:
 
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