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I say we deploy Perseus and the Argonauts. We can do that, it will just delay the Argonauts training by a turn. I also think we should wait one turn on Blue September
 
Thors_Alumni said:
If Basarin gives us an option too, We can build the second Dropship in a turn. And I am waiting for Basarin to return and answer our questions before making a plan, If Basarin allows it I plan on sending both the Perseus and the Thunderhawk with a TMU squadron to the Yukimura institute while sending Callaghan and his robot along with a squadron of Seekers plus Ichiro if possible to help Erika.
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What? Who talked about building second dropship? And even if we had the option building an already predesigned robot or support unit takes two turns so it wouldn't finish in time regardless. According to Basarin deployment options in the update Callaghan is still unavailable this turn (though this may be a mistake); and finally why the hell do we need to rush both deployments this turn when Basarin explicitly notes we have a month's grace period?
 
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What? Who talked about building second dropship? And even if we had the option building an already predesigned robot or support unit takes two turns so it wouldn't finish in time regardless. According to Basarin deployment options in the update Callaghan is still unavailable this turn (though this may be a mistake); and finally why the hell do we need to rush both deployments this turn when Basarin explicitly notes we have a month's grace period?
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Me, I have brought it up multiple times that we need anther Pegasus Class Dropship for our second platoon which is supposed to be the Perseus plus its supporting units.

Its always been my long term plan to have each Super Robot be supported by a Pegasus Class Dropship or a better Variant of one as our tech progresses.
 
Here is my plan suggestions for the upcoming operation depending on what the GM says.

[] Kyoto - Yukimura Institute Plan if Basarin allows another Super Robot to take the place of the combination unit.
[] Kyoto - Yukimura Institute Plan if Basarin allows another Super Robot to take the place of the combination unit.
- [] Perseus - Tellison/Zhang
- [] Thunderhawk - Jessica
- [] TMU Squadron.
- Urgency - IMMINENT

[] Kyoto - Yukimura Institute Plan if Basarin does not allow it.
- [] Perseus - Tellison/Zhang
- [] TMU Squadrons.
- Urgency - IMMINENT
[] Australia - Blue September Plan if sending Ichiro along with Beowulf
- [] Beowulf
- [] Ichiro Banner
- [] Half seeker squadron, Reduced to make room for Ichiro.
- Urgency - Moderate (Estimated 1-3 Turns)

[] Australia - Blue September Plan if not sending Ichiro.
- [] Beowulf
- [] Seeker Squadron.
- Urgency - Moderate (Estimated 1-3 Turns)
 
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Thors_Alumni said:
Here is my plan suggestions for the upcoming operation depending on what the GM says.
[] Kyoto - Yukimura Institute Plan if Basarin allows another Super Robot to take the place of the combination unit.
- [] Perseus - Tellison/Zhang
- [] Thunderhawk - Jessica
- [] TMU Squadron.
- Urgency - IMMINENT

[] Kyoto - Yukimura Institute Plan if Basarin does not allow it.
- [] Perseus - Tellison/Zhang
- [] TMU Squadrons.
- Urgency - IMMINENT
[] Australia - Blue September Plan if sending Ichiro along with Beowulf
- [] Beowulf
- [] Ichiro Banner
- [] Half seeker squadron, Reduced to make room for Ichiro.
- Urgency - Moderate (Estimated 1-3 Turns)

[] Australia - Blue September Plan if not sending Ichiro.
- [] Beowulf
- [] Seeker Squadron.
- Urgency - Moderate (Estimated 1-3 Turns)
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You still haven't answered the question of why should we rush both deployments this turn despite explicitly having a month to pace them.
 
SITB said:
You still haven't answered the question of why should we rush both deployments this turn despite explicitly having a month to pace them.
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I'm not rushing Erika's reinforcement group. Its November and Beowulf is still being repaired. Her team is going to leave once certain events happen and hopefully a second Dropship can be built, The Yukimura Team is the group that is being rushed. Its also why I am hoping that Basarin allows us to send both the Perseus and the Thunderhawk to Japan since they would work well together.
 
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Sir Plusse said:
Somewhere between "get it over with" and "get them before things get worse" at a guess. That's my reasoning, at least.
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We have a one turn grace period that not only allows us to send better support units and have the Pegasus as support for both deployments, it also doesn't screw with the pacing by having two battles back to back.

Thors_Alumni said:
I'm not rushing Erika's reinforcement group. Its November and Beowulf is still being repaired. Her team is going to leave once certain events happen and hopefully a second Dropship can be built, The Yukimura Team is the group that is being rushed. Its also why I am hoping that Basarin allows us to send both the Perseus and the Thunderhawk to Japan since they would work well together.
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Then I'm very confused because if so why not send the Seekers this turn and the Argonauts the next? Or do you mean that you 'only' rush the Kyoto group? Because the latter is just semantics.
 
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SITB said:
We have a one turn grace period that not only allows us to send better support units and have the Pegasus as support for both deployments, it also doesn't screw with the pacing by having two battles back to back.



Then I'm very confused because if so why not send the Seekers this turn and the Argonauts the next? Or do you mean that you 'only' rush the Kyoto group? Because the latter is just semantics.
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Argonauts are still green and putting them in the field is a last resort only option. I am rushing the Kyoto group but holding off on the Blue September op until we can send proper units to help. IE the Beowulf and its group in a Shepard Dropship that we rush build or use the first one once it returns from Japan.
 
Thors_Alumni said:
Argonauts are still green and putting them in the field is a last resort only option. I am rushing the Kyoto group but holding off on the Blue September op until we can send proper units to help. IE the Beowulf and its group in a Shepard Dropship that we rush build or use the first one once it returns from Japan.
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I think we have a terminology miscommunication here, when I am talking about rushing I mean that we try to do both deployments this turn; just sending a group to Kyoto isn't rushing. So if we only send Perseus + Seekers (+Thunderbolt??) to Kyoto and next turn we send Beowulf + Argonauts/Seekers to Australia this isn't what I referred to by rushing. I meant that we should do one deployment this turn and another the next, is this also what you are talking about or have I misunderstood you?

(As a tangent, by next turn the Argonauts will finish their training and would count as inexperienced which is where Zheng and Tellison are at right now, so putting them in the field with Callaghan and Erika is a good way to blood them)
 
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I'm likely to vote for any plan that puts Sam on the psychic theater with AI theory.
 
SITB said:
Two questions @Basarin:

1) When the Sledder action finishes do we still need to prototype/build the unit or will we get it ready for a fight next month? Or is it success dependent?
2) If the Build action finishes this turn does it meant we can use it for this turn deployment or not? (I assume not but I wanna make sure).
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1) Success dependent, but for the most part you'll have A Sledder prototype 'ready to go'
2) It wouldn't be, no. This would be different from rushing a refit straight out the door, as that at least is a known quantity.

Thors_Alumni said:
@Basarin is Ichiro battle ready yet?
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He can go out if you want him to, yes.

Alectai said:
Is that a thing we can do @Basarin ? Is a SR Refit a 2 turn action so we'd be able to deploy Jessica at the end of next turn?
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You would literally be putting the finishing touches right as the Pegasus flies off, but I'll allow it.
Thors_Alumni said:
crazy thought but, would it be possible to send both Tellison/Zhang and jessica with their super robot's plus the TMU formation while sending the Seeker Squadron with Ichiro to help Erika?

Sorry forgot to tag Basarin again,

@Basarin would it be possible to send both the Perseus and Thunderhawkbolt plus their pilots to Japan?
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The current restriction is that the Pegasus can hold one Core Unit, and one Support unit. And Super Robot genre or not, flying from the west coast of the continental US to Japan is a bit of an ask. :p
 
Hmm, so either sending the Perseus now with the Seeker squad or delay it and send it when it has a working (but untested) combine forms alongside the Argonauts for its first sortie. Though if we do send it next turn it raises the question of which core unit to send alongside the Seekers. Jessica for full agro but more limited survivability or Ichiro for a defensive build but limited offense.

Or we can do what Alectai noted and send Persus now while having Jiro work overtime to refit the Thunderbolt for next turn.
 
Honestly, having it pointed out that we can put the Blue September deployment off a bit lowers its priority in my eyes. Of course, helping Yukimura is still on my to-do-now list (and I still think the Perseus is the best choice for the mission due to being better at coordinating units), because we want to be SURE that Mercury V is still functional, instead of just hoping it wins.

Incidentally, @Basarin, what restrictions, if any, are there on underwater deployment (as has repeatedly been implied by the Westphalians' usage of submarines)?
 
Sir Plusse said:
Honestly, having it pointed out that we can put the Blue September deployment off a bit lowers its priority in my eyes. Of course, helping Yukimura is still on my to-do-now list (and I still think the Perseus is the best choice for the mission due to being better at coordinating units), because we want to be SURE that Mercury V is still functional, instead of just hoping it wins.

Incidentally, @Basarin, what restrictions, if any, are there on underwater deployment (as has repeatedly been implied by the Westphalians' usage of submarines)?
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Not really an option. The merchandising department hasn't released any underwater model toys research options haven't really leaned that way.
 
Basarin said:
Not really an option. The merchandising department hasn't released any underwater model toys research options haven't really leaned that way.
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Well, guess we gotta get our hands on some submarines for our Engineering guys to work their wonders on then. ...though on second thought that might compromise their seaworthiness... giant robots are hard.

But anyway, just the "kaiju going underwater" thing means we'll need to figure out submersible Super Robots to win (my guess: Sheol's main base is underwater); this just incentivizes it on a more short-term basis.
 
So the defense force assignment should we choose to send Perseus now and work on refitting the Thunderbolt would look like this:

-[] Reaction Force: Active Monitoring
--[] Adrianna
-[] Deployment: Kyoto - Yukimura Institute
--[] Core Unit - Persues
--[] Support Unit - Seeker squad/'Chimera'
-[] Liaison: Dr. Yukimura/Yukimura Institute
--[] Dianna

And thus the Engineering actions could look like this:

-[] Refit Super Robot
--[] Thunderbolt
---[] Anti-Gravity Treatment
---[] K-Suit (Pilot)
---[] K-Scale Mesh Mk. II
---[] K-Circuits
--[] Katarina
-[] My Kingdom for a Steed
--[] Thunderbolt
--[] Jiro

Shame that a lot of our upgrades need a combined form to work since Jessica really wants more weaponry installed but our shock canon is combiner only, also we have another triple combination vote:
- [] Faedium is proven to work, albeit it's still a bit unstable. But Wilde is convinced we can proceed to scale tests now. The Beowulf is the core of the Combination - so let's install a fully fabricated Faedium Crystal inside a Jackal and see how this works. (Chance to complete now; roll 2d6, Threshold Unknown)
- [] Henry is a bit more cautious, and wants to conduct some more stress tests in a controlled environment before they slap a Faedium Crystal into a test model Jackal. (roll 3d6, Threshold of 6)

(TBF, given that the threshold on the more cautious approach is already 6 I'm not sure that Wilde's approach will work but maybe I just lack sufficient COURGE.)

WRT Science team, I'm not sure where to put Ivanna, Zulu or Sam; but I think that Mary should be on either general Faedium shard technology integration or just double down on upgrading our energy blasters by seeing how it combines with Faedium.

(Actually @Basarin, should Katrina be locked to triple combination or not?)
 
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So a proto plan focusing on sending Jessica for the next fight (Faedium YOLO version) would be something like:

[X] Plan Send Perseus Now Thunderbolt Later
-[X] Reaction Force: Active Monitoring
--[X] Adrianna
-[X] Deployment: Kyoto - Yukimura Institute
--[X] Core Unit - Perseus
--[X] Support Unit - Seeker squad/'Chimera'
-[X] Liaison: Dr. Yukimura/Yukimura Institute
--[X] Dianna
-[X] Refit Super Robot
--[X] Thunderbolt
---[X] Anti-Gravity Treatment
---[X] K-Suit (Pilot)
---[X] K-Scale Mesh Mk. II
---[X] K-Circuits
---[X] Upgrade the Heavy Weapons Pack to Energy Blasters
--[X] Katarina
-[X] My Kingdom for a Steed
--[X] Thunderbolt
--[X] Jiro
-[X] Triple Combination - Prototyping
--[X] Faedium is proven to work, albeit it's still a bit unstable. But Wilde is convinced we can proceed to scale tests now. The Beowulf is the core of the Combination - so let's install a fully fabricated Faedium Crystal inside a Jackal and see how this works. (Chance to complete now; roll 2d6, Threshold Unknown)
-[X] ESP Augmentation Theory
--[X] Sam
-[X] Blaster Miniaturization - Super Robot Edition
--[X] Ivanna
-[X] C-Crystals
--[X] How does the C-Crystal react when installed in our 'normal' super robots
--[X] Zulu
-[X] Faedium Research
--[X] Integration with Kausen shard tech to improve our energy blasters
--[X] Mary

EDIT: The C-Crystal stuff is awkwardly worded, but the intent is to get the ball rolling on on seeing how it interacts with our super robots so we can go and finally use them on other units.
 
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Conversely, if we want to gamble on the Perseus combination being ready for next month's deployment:

[] Plan Wait for Perseus
-[] Reaction Force: Active Monitoring
--[] Adrianna
-[] Deployment: Kyoto - Yukimura Institute
--[] Core Unit - Banner
--[] Support Unit - Seeker squad/'Chimera'
-[] Liaison: Dr. Yukimura/Yukimura Institute
--[] Dianna
-[] My Kingdom for a Steed
--[] Perseus
--[] Katrina
-[] Construct Super Robot Support Unit
--[] Sledder
--[] Jiro
-[] Triple Combination - Prototyping
--[] Faedium is proven to work, albeit it's still a bit unstable. But Wilde is convinced we can proceed to scale tests now. The Beowulf is the core of the Combination - so let's install a fully fabricated Faedium Crystal inside a Jackal and see how this works. (Chance to complete now; roll 2d6, Threshold Unknown)
-[] ESP Augmentation Theory
--[] Sam
-[] Blaster Miniaturization - Super Robot Edition
--[] Ivanna
-[] C-Crystals
--[] How does the C-Crystal react when installed in our 'normal' super robots
--[] Zulu
-[] Faedium Research
--[] Integration with Kausen shard tech to improve our energy blasters
--[] Mary

The differences in this plan is that it sends Ichiro on the deployment since he is more upgraded than Jessica, and so I put Jiro on the Sledder to increase the chances of the action succeeding in time for next turn and also sent Katrina to build the new cockpit for Perseus since we are already sending it to battle.

EDIT: I'm going to sleep now so if someone has better ideas for science actions feel free to copy and change either of the plans.
 
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Sounds like there's more dialogue to be had on this one, so I'll let the vote run for a day or so. (Longer if work decides to eat me)
 
Updated version of mine...

[] Plan Beamos
-[] Reaction Force: Active Monitoring - Adriana
-[] Liaison: Dr. Yukimura/Yukimura Institute
--[] Diana
-[] Deployment: Kyoto - Yukimura Institute
--[] Perseus
--[] CR-02 Phalanx Squadron
-[] Refit Super Robot
--[] Thunderbolt
---[] Anti-Gravity Treatment
---[] K-Suit (Pilot)
---[] K-Scale Mesh Mk. II
---[] K-Circuits
--[] Katarina
-[] Even More Gun
--[] Jiro
-[] Triple Combination - Prototyping
--[] Henry is a bit more cautious, and wants to conduct some more stress tests in a controlled environment before they slap a Faedium Crystal into a test model Jackal. (roll 3d6, Threshold of 6)
-[] ESP Augmentation Theory
--[] Sam
-[] Explore K-Fang Development
--[] Ivanna
--[] Does K-Fang adapt to external stimuli in a similar (albeit likely offensive) fashion to K-Scale?
-[] Blaster Miniaturization - Super Robot Edition
--[] Zulu
-[] Faedium Research
--[] Mary
--[] Attempt to develop a finisher for blasters
 
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I like this one since its closest to what I want to send, So it gets my vote.

[X] Plan Send Perseus Now Thunderbolt Later
 
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