Sterbelicht - One Sacrifice At A Time Against The Galaxy (40K)
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Can we design a Weaponless Navigator Destroyer or whatnot, or would that just be a Light Freighter? I'm thinking along the lines of the SS Rustbucket, just the minimum shit needed to have the jump speed/etc.
Alectai
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I've got an outline coming together though.
[] [Light Freighter] Auriga-class Emergency Response Freighter
-[] Length - 7.000 Meters
-[] Width - 1.400 Meters
-[] Acceleration - 2 Gravities (-2 DP)
-[] Armor - Thin Single Hull (+1 DP)
-[] Shields - Singular Emitter (+1 DP)
-[] Weapons - Unarmed (Requires escort!)
-[] Equipment - Superior Gravimetric Engine Calculations/Chapels to the Five/Medical Deployment Division/Orders of the Guiding Hands/Large Mobile Civilian Manufactory/Propaganda Center (-25 DP)
GENERAL OUTLOOK: Something we can roll in to a system suffering a disaster very quickly with an attached Choir, carrying medicial aid, humanitarian relief, and the ability to manufacture necessary emergency supplies while keeping the populace as reasonable calm as possible. Can also supplement freighters by providing an absolute ocean of lifters beyond their normal capacity, allowing them to load and unload with much greater speed.
Is this a good design in the sense that it would actively improve any system's disaster response just by being present there, and synergize well with our more bulk-hauling freighters, @HeroCooky ? Committing basically four hangar equiviliants purely towards bulk lifting should make this helpful to just about any emergency response, even putting aside the professionals on board. And with 5 gs of acceleration, it can be the first on scene in the case of a crisis and stabilize things for the heavy metal to come with the Goods.
[] [Light Freighter] Auriga-class Emergency Response Freighter
-[] Length - 7.000 Meters
-[] Width - 1.400 Meters
-[] Acceleration - 2 Gravities (-2 DP)
-[] Armor - Thin Single Hull (+1 DP)
-[] Shields - Singular Emitter (+1 DP)
-[] Weapons - Unarmed (Requires escort!)
-[] Equipment - Superior Gravimetric Engine Calculations/Chapels to the Five/Medical Deployment Division/Orders of the Guiding Hands/Large Mobile Civilian Manufactory/Propaganda Center (-25 DP)
GENERAL OUTLOOK: Something we can roll in to a system suffering a disaster very quickly with an attached Choir, carrying medicial aid, humanitarian relief, and the ability to manufacture necessary emergency supplies while keeping the populace as reasonable calm as possible. Can also supplement freighters by providing an absolute ocean of lifters beyond their normal capacity, allowing them to load and unload with much greater speed.
Is this a good design in the sense that it would actively improve any system's disaster response just by being present there, and synergize well with our more bulk-hauling freighters, @HeroCooky ? Committing basically four hangar equiviliants purely towards bulk lifting should make this helpful to just about any emergency response, even putting aside the professionals on board. And with 5 gs of acceleration, it can be the first on scene in the case of a crisis and stabilize things for the heavy metal to come with the Goods.
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I may also suggest this one
Improved Internal Security Systems
Mostly because this seems pretty useful for anti-rioting...by killing the rioters mostly
Improved Internal Security Systems
Mostly because this seems pretty useful for anti-rioting...by killing the rioters mostly
HeroCooky
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You need to do do to find out.
Fast and a Light Freighter.
You can, I just added the cost for the Freighters to remind people.
That is for you and the thread to decide. I am only going to say that you should triple or quadruple internal security systems for the pop shifter ships.
Alectai
Speaks Words of Wisdom... On occasion
Huh, so a Light Freighter with maximum Acceleration then? I can do that. Is using Medium Hangars for bulk lifting something I can do?
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Okay, also, some Quick Maths for SRGs!
For three actions, an SBG gets you 72 FP in Heavy Cruisers, 48 FP of Light Cruisers, 64 FP of Carriers (Light Cruisers), 32 FP of Frigates, and 8 FP of Destroyers.
That's a total FP of 224. Divide it by 3 and you get... 75 FP per action.
So for instance if you had a fleet with two Heavy Freighters, 4 Light Freighters, 1 "Andromeda/Rustbucket" Destroyer, and some Escorts of some kind to round it out (that we'll count out for the moment).
That'd be a total of 64 FP (plus the Escorts).
So I think our SRGs if we design them like that would take one action per each SRG at the efficiency rate of our other stuff. Obviously if we shift it around, the calculus changes or so on.
For three actions, an SBG gets you 72 FP in Heavy Cruisers, 48 FP of Light Cruisers, 64 FP of Carriers (Light Cruisers), 32 FP of Frigates, and 8 FP of Destroyers.
That's a total FP of 224. Divide it by 3 and you get... 75 FP per action.
So for instance if you had a fleet with two Heavy Freighters, 4 Light Freighters, 1 "Andromeda/Rustbucket" Destroyer, and some Escorts of some kind to round it out (that we'll count out for the moment).
That'd be a total of 64 FP (plus the Escorts).
So I think our SRGs if we design them like that would take one action per each SRG at the efficiency rate of our other stuff. Obviously if we shift it around, the calculus changes or so on.
HeroCooky
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Added A 2/4/7 DP Shuttle Hangar Equipment (that was missing) for this purpose.
Alectai
Speaks Words of Wisdom... On occasion
Thank you! Adjusting the Auriga now.
Would this at least get our Doctrine Bonus?
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Since we need the Internal Security, I think it'd make sense for the "Transport People" one to have only two of the Mega People Transport Modules, since at least for the short-term we're going to be doing a lot more 'providing food' than we are 'transporting people.' After all, some of our key Terraforming tragets will have the better part of a century to cook by the time we need to figure out how to feed them.
Alectai
Speaks Words of Wisdom... On occasion
Auriga's been redesigned. It'll either be 2 points overbudget or exactly on budget depending on some things Cooky needs to clear up (They said it was a 7 point project for the Large Shuttle Bay, but it's listed as 8, and I want to know if it'd qualify for our Doctrine bonus too) But it'll be able to provide key humanitarian coordination efforts while being extremely fast (For a freighter), and being able to massively supplement bulk haulers to boot thanks to having an arsenal of shuttles to distribute among a relief fleet.
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I think we need at least one heavy hauler moving refugees:
[] [Heavy Freighter] Class Name
-[] Length - 10.000 Meters
-[] Width - 3.000 Meters
-[] Acceleration - 0.6 Gravities -2 DP
-[] Armor - Thick Single Hull
-[] Shields - Three Emitters
-[] Weapons - (Write-In, Example: Type/Mounting. Notice: Heavy Freighters can only mount up to Three [3] weapons of all types.)
-[] Equipment - (Write-In, Example: #1, #2, #3.)
--[] Titanic Civilian Transportation Hold - Enough space and Life Support Systems to transport one-hundred million souls through the Warp. Neither comfortable nor luxurious, but better than dying. Includes many shuttle bays and oversized transportation craft with their own loading facilities to facilitate smooth emergency evacuations.(15) x2
--[] Internal Security Systems - Turrets, Gun-Servitors, crew training, and armored bunkers at strategic locations will make a boarder's life hell.(1)
--[] Emergency Relief Cargo Holds - Holds everything a small population experiencing a natural or artificial disaster may need to survive.(4)
--[] Orders of the Guiding Hands - "We can help these misguided souls. Thus, we shall." This is the guiding motto of a large, if not remarkably cohesive, collection of Faith Orders seeking to aid, preach to, and protect the populations of recently liberated or conquered worlds. How can we deny the requests of the faithful to extend a guiding hand if we seek a better Age?(5)
--[] Medical Deployment Division - Sometimes, a ship should not bring war. Sometimes, a healing hand must be given freely. And with the ability to deploy medical care to entire planets, even if only the most critical locations, that helping hand shall be extended. Always.(5)
And a second one that is going to move food:
[] [Heavy Freighter] Class Name
-[] Length - 10.000 Meters
-[] Width - 3.000 Meters
-[] Acceleration - 0.6 Gravities -2 DP
-[] Armor - Thick Single Hull
-[] Shields - Three Emitters
-[] Weapons - (Write-In, Example: Type/Mounting. Notice: Heavy Freighters can only mount up to Three [3] weapons of all types.)
-[] Equipment - (Write-In, Example: #1, #2, #3.)
--[] 3x Titanic Emergency Relief Cargo Holds - Holds everything a population of a billion experiencing a natural or artificial disaster may need to survive. For a short time. A month, at most.
They both go 2 DP over budget but that should be fine for heavy Freighter's
That leaves 8 for two more Light Freighters:
One carrying supplies, a few refugees and a Civilian Manufactory(the bulk of the fleets) and a FTL command freighter
The first can hold 2 DP more worth of DP
[] [Light Freighter] Class Name(23/ 25 DP)
-[] Length - 7.000 Meters
-[] Width - 1.400 Meters
-[] Acceleration - 2 Gravities - 2DP
-[] Armor - Single Hull
-[] Shields - Two Emitters
-[] Weapons - (Write-In, Example: Type/Mounting. Notice: Freighters can only mount up to Two [2] weapons of all types.)
-[] Equipment - (Write-In, Example: #1, #2, #3.)
--[] Medium Civilian Transportation Hold(5)
--[] Large Emergency Relief Cargo Holds(9)
--[] Large Mobile Civilian Manufactory(5)
[] [Light Freighter] Class Name(25/ 25 DP)
-[] Length - 7.000 Meters
-[] Width - 1.400 Meters
-[] Acceleration - 2 Gravities - 2DP
-[] Armor - Single Hull
-[] Shields - Two Emitters
-[] Weapons - (Write-In, Example: Type/Mounting. Notice: Freighters can only mount up to Two [2] weapons of all types.)
-[] Equipment - (Write-In, Example: #1, #2, #3.)
--[] Ghosts Amidts The Stellar Winds(10)
--[] Orders of the Guiding Hands(5)
--[] Propaganda Center(6)
--[]Civilian Supply Generation(2)
[] [Heavy Freighter] Class Name
-[] Length - 10.000 Meters
-[] Width - 3.000 Meters
-[] Acceleration - 0.6 Gravities -2 DP
-[] Armor - Thick Single Hull
-[] Shields - Three Emitters
-[] Weapons - (Write-In, Example: Type/Mounting. Notice: Heavy Freighters can only mount up to Three [3] weapons of all types.)
-[] Equipment - (Write-In, Example: #1, #2, #3.)
--[] Titanic Civilian Transportation Hold - Enough space and Life Support Systems to transport one-hundred million souls through the Warp. Neither comfortable nor luxurious, but better than dying. Includes many shuttle bays and oversized transportation craft with their own loading facilities to facilitate smooth emergency evacuations.(15) x2
--[] Internal Security Systems - Turrets, Gun-Servitors, crew training, and armored bunkers at strategic locations will make a boarder's life hell.(1)
--[] Emergency Relief Cargo Holds - Holds everything a small population experiencing a natural or artificial disaster may need to survive.(4)
--[] Orders of the Guiding Hands - "We can help these misguided souls. Thus, we shall." This is the guiding motto of a large, if not remarkably cohesive, collection of Faith Orders seeking to aid, preach to, and protect the populations of recently liberated or conquered worlds. How can we deny the requests of the faithful to extend a guiding hand if we seek a better Age?(5)
--[] Medical Deployment Division - Sometimes, a ship should not bring war. Sometimes, a healing hand must be given freely. And with the ability to deploy medical care to entire planets, even if only the most critical locations, that helping hand shall be extended. Always.(5)
And a second one that is going to move food:
[] [Heavy Freighter] Class Name
-[] Length - 10.000 Meters
-[] Width - 3.000 Meters
-[] Acceleration - 0.6 Gravities -2 DP
-[] Armor - Thick Single Hull
-[] Shields - Three Emitters
-[] Weapons - (Write-In, Example: Type/Mounting. Notice: Heavy Freighters can only mount up to Three [3] weapons of all types.)
-[] Equipment - (Write-In, Example: #1, #2, #3.)
--[] 3x Titanic Emergency Relief Cargo Holds - Holds everything a population of a billion experiencing a natural or artificial disaster may need to survive. For a short time. A month, at most.
They both go 2 DP over budget but that should be fine for heavy Freighter's
That leaves 8 for two more Light Freighters:
One carrying supplies, a few refugees and a Civilian Manufactory(the bulk of the fleets) and a FTL command freighter
The first can hold 2 DP more worth of DP
[] [Light Freighter] Class Name(23/ 25 DP)
-[] Length - 7.000 Meters
-[] Width - 1.400 Meters
-[] Acceleration - 2 Gravities - 2DP
-[] Armor - Single Hull
-[] Shields - Two Emitters
-[] Weapons - (Write-In, Example: Type/Mounting. Notice: Freighters can only mount up to Two [2] weapons of all types.)
-[] Equipment - (Write-In, Example: #1, #2, #3.)
--[] Medium Civilian Transportation Hold(5)
--[] Large Emergency Relief Cargo Holds(9)
--[] Large Mobile Civilian Manufactory(5)
[] [Light Freighter] Class Name(25/ 25 DP)
-[] Length - 7.000 Meters
-[] Width - 1.400 Meters
-[] Acceleration - 2 Gravities - 2DP
-[] Armor - Single Hull
-[] Shields - Two Emitters
-[] Weapons - (Write-In, Example: Type/Mounting. Notice: Freighters can only mount up to Two [2] weapons of all types.)
-[] Equipment - (Write-In, Example: #1, #2, #3.)
--[] Ghosts Amidts The Stellar Winds(10)
--[] Orders of the Guiding Hands(5)
--[] Propaganda Center(6)
--[]Civilian Supply Generation(2)
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We DEFINITELY need more than the basic bitch Internal Security Systems if we're going to be hauling hundreds of millions of people.
Hm. Attempt at a Heavy Freighter, never done this before, assume it's flawed as hell-
[] [Heavy Freighter] Class Name
-[] Sketch (Purely Optional)
-[] Length - 10.000/11.000/12.000/13.000/14.000 Meters
-[] Width - 3.000/3.500/4.000/4.500/5.000 Meters
-[] Acceleration - 0.2/0.4/0.6/0.8/1 Gravities
-[] Armor - Thick Single Hull/Thin Double Hull/Medium Double Hull/Thick Medium Double Hull/Thin Triple Hull
-[] Shields - Three Emitters/One Array/Two Arrays/Three Arrays/One Matrix
-[] Weapons - (Write-In, Example: Type/Mounting. Notice: Heavy Freighters can only mount up to Three [3] weapons of all types.)
-[] Equipment - Titanic Emergency Relief Cargo Holds, Large Shuttle Hangar, Large Mobile Civilian Manufactory, Medical Deployment Division, Orders of the Guiding Hands, Small Mobile Civilian Manufactory, Ship Shrines
The idea with this one is purely to provide relief, but...
[] [Heavy Freighter] Class Name
-[] Sketch (Purely Optional)
-[] Length - 10.000/11.000/12.000/13.000/14.000 Meters
-[] Width - 3.000/3.500/4.000/4.500/5.000 Meters
-[] Acceleration - 0.2/0.4/0.6/0.8/1 Gravities
-[] Armor - Thick Single Hull/Thin Double Hull/Medium Double Hull/Thick Medium Double Hull/Thin Triple Hull
-[] Shields - Three Emitters/One Array/Two Arrays/Three Arrays/One Matrix
-[] Weapons - (Write-In, Example: Type/Mounting. Notice: Heavy Freighters can only mount up to Three [3] weapons of all types.)
-[] Equipment - Titanic Emergency Relief Cargo Holds, Large Shuttle Hangar, Large Mobile Civilian Manufactory, Medical Deployment Division, Orders of the Guiding Hands, Small Mobile Civilian Manufactory, Ship Shrines
The idea with this one is purely to provide relief, but...
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@HeroCooky
Does the Civilian Transportation Hold include Food And Medical?
Is the Augmetic Security Department a better version of Improved Internal Security Systems?
Can a ship in a fleet provide support(medical,police/soldiers) to others in its fleet?
Does the Civilian Transportation Hold include Food And Medical?
Is the Augmetic Security Department a better version of Improved Internal Security Systems?
Can a ship in a fleet provide support(medical,police/soldiers) to others in its fleet?
We have 24 DP to design with? And it sounds like we are going to need one light freighter and two heavy freighters. That means we have 4 DP free for more designs.
So we could design two destroyers and a frigate in addition? Ideas:
1. The Rustbucket. A destroyer with Hymns of the Machines for better backline transport.
2. A stealth boarding-focused destroyer/frigate specifically built to enable us to capture the three mega-freighters before they skeddaddle. May also allow us to do stealthy insertions into the defense platforms.
3. A logistics destroyer/frigate for extending the reach of our ships?
So we could design two destroyers and a frigate in addition? Ideas:
1. The Rustbucket. A destroyer with Hymns of the Machines for better backline transport.
2. A stealth boarding-focused destroyer/frigate specifically built to enable us to capture the three mega-freighters before they skeddaddle. May also allow us to do stealthy insertions into the defense platforms.
3. A logistics destroyer/frigate for extending the reach of our ships?
Feels like this is worth a write-in.
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HeroCooky
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Scratch the Shuttle Bays, I forgot that the Civilian Holds had those already put inside them. And no Doctrine Bonus/Malus.
It specifies "Life Support Systems" in the fluff section.
Yes, very much so.
They can share, but the less points of failure there are, the less failures will happen.
Alectai
Speaks Words of Wisdom... On occasion
Got it, thanks!
Frees up some points at least.
EDIT: Auriga should now be feature complete. As a Light Freighter, it's as fast as they can get. It's lightly armored and unarmed, but it's able to pull 2 Gs and is a dedicated humanitarian support ship, a group of these can likely significantly increase the wiggle room for mass cargo haulers.
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HeroCooky
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Reading this was literally me going:
"Oh, this will be fun!"
*Thule enters scene*
*Implication of what the prompt actually asks hits.*
"...Oh. Oh No."
Updated the Omake Bounties. Yeen Queen In A Mecha Time!
Haha, yeahhhh. I think the challenge of how to write it well sucked me in a bit.
But hey, not everything is perfect. The Thules are a little creepy, but that's just a thing a functioning society can deal with. In this case by channeling attention-seeking Yeeni towards them.
So House Manna's getaway place is on the level our whole civilization used to live when we were Civ V.
A whole milestone of development ago.
Ohhhh, yah makes sense as a large chunk of the population is not going to like us and not buying what we are selling. And given how Voxx Primus is we are going to be forcibly resettling them. Damn if the requirements sound like they would also apply to a slave ship of the Dark Eldar.
Ah, right. I think we should do a focused write in on trying to sneak agents board them to try to take them over, might as well give it a shot to see if we can. getting those three would help us, if nothing else then deprive the Dutchy the ability to use them.
Oh no! a bunch of Thules just found fresh meat that doesn't know their tricks! oh and is also the only bartender for the bar. and I swear that Thule's grin and tone. Good Luck NightSky.
oh god, the hints and subtle gestures. He'll start figuring it out by the next two or three visits. and love the reference to the old fighter.
Youth and softness of the fur, I think NightSky's only defense is just not getting it and able to walk away due to all the other Thules.
....I'm getting flashbacks to other series and quests and dear god the Thules are a dead ringer, even the whole being clones made for war type of thing as well. Except here the Thules are less on drugs and warcimes and more on soft things.... that can include Yeeni. It is a good thing to drill into the Thules to remember why you fight and for what and not lose yourself to tunnel vision or th elike.
Sad to say, this is not the Cool Nightsky wants. The entirety of what she said says the Thules view him as 'cute'. but with his background he is not picking up on the complient as romantic desire in him but as in the same vein as his mother.
Yahhhhh, that's how it tends to go for bartenders. Listening in to drunks or that one fucker who refuses to leave or keeps drinking but sometimes people just need to ear that will listen to them.
OH NO, you FOOL! You know not what you just agreed to! And the Whistling isn't what you think!
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- Milky Way
My first try at a ship its designed to Ferry Large Amounts Of Supplies around.
[] [Heavy Freighter] Class Name
-[] Length - 14.000 Meters -4DP
-[] Width - 5.000 Meters -4DP
-[] Acceleration - 1 Gravities -4DP
-[] Armor - Thin Double Hull -1DP
-[] Shields - One Array -1DP
-[] Weapons
--[] Small Hangars (-1DP)
-[] Equipment
--[] Titanic Emergency Relief Cargo Holds 2x (-30DP)
[] [Heavy Freighter] Class Name
-[] Length - 14.000 Meters -4DP
-[] Width - 5.000 Meters -4DP
-[] Acceleration - 1 Gravities -4DP
-[] Armor - Thin Double Hull -1DP
-[] Shields - One Array -1DP
-[] Weapons
--[] Small Hangars (-1DP)
-[] Equipment
--[] Titanic Emergency Relief Cargo Holds 2x (-30DP)