Sterbelicht - One Sacrifice At A Time Against The Galaxy (40K)

What should your focus for the rest of the Quest be?

  • Mercy (Diplomacy and Expansion)

    Votes: 201 75.0%

  • Ruthlessness (Kick the Duchy in the Balls)

    Votes: 64 23.9%

  • Thule (Yeeni Handholding and Piscarian Cuddling)

    Votes: 102 38.1%
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aceraptor said:
We've definitely been way too passive. I guess one part is the whole hive world campaign burned a lot of people about getting into long protracted conflict.

But also people are WAY too focused on research and numbers go up. A lot of times it feels like people have completely forgotten this is Warhammer.
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I understand your frustration, but like, come on man that's wild.

I think we've been more passive than we could've, but like, we got hit with the Psychic Awakening, crawled out of a Warp Storm, immediately got vibe checked with 13 Daemon Battleships ready to throw down, and boom.

Like, we've done conflicts relatively recently too — against the Valan, and against the Croaf as well. And since then our borders were somewhat relatively secure. So we took the chance to build up and research and build our quality advantage because we sure as shit aren't going to have a quantitative advantage against three fucking multi-sector Chaos Polities

That's what the Number Go Up is about, to be able to tank Dev losses when we merge with bigger polities, to be able to easily absorb smaller ones, and then gain perks and milestones to be able to compete with the big boys. How do you think it would've been to fight the Slaaneshi without Titans? Or fight the Nurglites without Battleships?

Things definitely got delayed, in part because of player reticence / preference but also because of the Chaosbros mucking up the warp, but also because we needed this build up to prep for a sector-wide apocalyptic war. We got the Necrontech by the skin of our fucking teeth, and we need that quality advantage to be able to deal with Daemonic nonsense.

Like, I get your frustration, but we also picked the Star Navy Agenda? Next turn we're gonna get to designing, and the turn after the production churn is gonna come, and likely turn after that its Crusade Time.

So uh, yeah, I don't think we've forgotten this is Warhammer lmao.
 
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  • Voting
    • Scheduled vote count started by HeroCooky on Oct 28, 2024 at 1:18 PM, finished with 50 posts and 12 votes.
    • [X] Plan: To Acquire the Military Capstones, Black Ash and Cat, and also by the way SCREW CHAOS
      -[X] [Psykana][Free] Turn off the Grand Design
      -[X] [Psykana][Free] Turn off Heartbeat of Industry, turn on Glint of Genius and Devouring Mechadendrite at full strength, 100 Choirs into Hippity Hoppity & Foretold Luminous Paths Seen. All remaining choirs into See No Evil, Speak No Evil, Hear No Evil, Do No Evil while leaving 50 free for auto-tickers.
      -[X] [Free] Assign automated frigate production to Taurus-S Troopship production
      -[X] [Free]
      -[X] [General] Research:
      --[X] Green Ship Infused Missile Payloads (6/7) - [2 Actions Locked]
      --[X] Voidcraft Generation 4 (bonus research action 1)
      --[X] Industrialized Production of Gravity-Weapons (bonus research action 2)
      -[X] [General] Ministry of Subversion, Infiltration, and Interstellar Communication
      --[X] The Black Cat Buyout (1/2)
      --[X] Duel Of The Fates (3/12) (half action from Mechadendrite off Black Cat buyout)
      --[X] [Free] [AUTOMATIC] System Subversion (Orbital Habitat in Jak-Hal system and Oqo in Ishanu)
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    • 305.M43 - Green-Black Ship Capstone
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    • IRL issues popped up, no fluff today. Will do so for the 4th Gen tomorrow.

    Vote for Green-Black Ship Capstone:
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    [] Bubble Drive
    A drive that utilizes our understanding of gravity manipulation to "scrunch" up space in front of a ship while "stretching" it at the back, thus propelling it through space without an engine. Though quite slow compared to even unguided Warp Travel, at around two weeks per light-month, it represents...potential...
    (Gain: Post-Credit Non-Warp FTL. It is both slow and costly...but does not touch the Warp.)
    [] Animated Metal
    A miracle among miracles, this "Animated Metal" is capable, under direction of our Magi, to repair itself by re-morphing into its pre-assigned shapes. Though slow to do so, and thus not meant for planetary battles, it will be a boon for the civilian sector, drastically cutting maintenance costs everywhere, and for our ships, even in limited capacity, due to the drawn-out nature of void battles.
    (Gain: Post-Credit Self-Repair Material. Matter Triumphant.)
     
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    • Oh fuck, yeah, these were absolutely worth the 50-60 total action investment into them.

    So, it's a choice between "Having absolutely reliable--if horribly slow--FTL options to gigaboost our economy and reliability, or having baby tier Necrodermis that just generally reduces upkeep and overhead across the board, presumably also mitigating the flaws of stuff like the Voidsphere equipment by making it able to regenerate on it's own over time?
     
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    Neablis said:
    @HeroCooky actually some questions around that.
    1. Will being larger help that the unification with the shipwrights go better?
    2. Will anything else help the shipwright unification go better? Or should we just pull the damn lever?
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    1. Very much so.
    2. Grow larger, help them in the upcoming Slaanesh Cult War, subvert their culture, overthrow their political leadership, murder everyone even slightly against your vision of the future, dropkick their metaphysical representation in the Warp into a black hole wile screaming "LEEEEEEEROY JENKINS!" etc. etc. etc.
    Neablis said:
    I'm planning on starting a 40K quest of my own one of these days, but it's going to be original.
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    I will be expecting an invite.
     
    Post-credit as in we won't see the effect before the quest is done?

    Probably the FTL drive, not having to dive into the warp is pretty great.
     
    [] Bubble Drive
    A drive that utilizes our understanding of gravity manipulation to "scrunch" up space in front of a ship while "stretching" it at the back, thus propelling it through space without an engine. Though quite slow compared to even unguided Warp Travel, at around two weeks per light-month, it represents...potential...
    (Gain: Post-Credit Non-Warp FTL. It is both slow and costly...but does not touch the Warp.)

    yeah, as much as i would like Baby necrodermis...having the ability to not fuck with the warp is a big one, sure it may only work for our freighters and such, but having the ability to keep supplies going and resources flowing is amazing advantage, along with sector fleets being able to respond to threats ahead of time (thanks to divination and anti-divination stuff)
     
    Probably, but it's very nice either way, even if it can never replace Warp based FTL due to it never reaching the same heights of speed, the ability to hypothetically ensure that even a Chaos God being born won't cut your nation to bits because you can at least ensure that regions can stay in touch is meta defining.

    And yeah, 1 RP to basically get us an Epilogue level boost makes perfect sense, it won't be relevant on the timescale of the game, but it's a Lesson learned that even the Emperor wasn't able to crack in his time to any degree of reliability.
     
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    [] Bubble Drive

    You don't need to go fast if you're civilian traffic. And if you're a warship, this lets you bypass any hazardous warp weather or other warp nonsense.
     
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    We need to build the military up enough that we can run two big campaigns at the same time while having some fleets in reserve for internal policing.

    One campaign will be to help hold the line and push back the Slaanesh cult, and the other campaign would be to push against the Nurgle and Khornate cults in the south east. And we'll use diplomacy to see if the Duchy would be able to make their own push against the Nurgle cult.
     
    Derpmind said:
    [] Bubble Drive

    You don't need to go fast if you're civilian traffic. And if you're a warpship, this lets you bypass any hazardous warp weather or other warp nonsense.
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    Yeah, much as I like the idea of Baby's First Necrodermis, Alcuberrie Drives are just so critical for maintaining a society when all other forms of FTL are fundamentally unreliable in some fashion.
     
    vsh said:
    If it's something that can be started and stopped quickly and reliably within star systems, it's a god level upgrade to regular engines. Imagine a battleship with acceleration of YES.
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    I doubt it'll be relevant to us on the scale of the rest of the game, but it's still lovely to unlock an Epilogue grade kicker.
     
    henkalv said:
    Post-credit as in we won't see the effect before the quest is done?
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    Necron stuff was literally a case of "Yeah, you ain't going there unless you are lucky enough for [Extremely Rare Circumstance] and do [Very Dubiously Pay-Off Action] while it happens."

    And this is the capstone of that. The finisher to a set of Actions created out of a joke and a throw-away comment.
    Derpmind said:
    You don't need to go fast if you're civilian traffic.
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    Keep in mind that this is like...28 months, or 2 years and 4 months for a 5 LY journey. A Warp Drive does that in like...7-30 minutes, top? 3 1/2 Hours to 1 Day real-time?
     
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    By the way, how fast on average is Warp travel in this quest (especially given current conditions)? Because I've seen some crazy, "cross the galaxy in a year" numbers for Warp travel in normal conditions.
     
    WillRobinson said:
    By the way, how fast on average is Warp travel in this quest (especially given current conditions)? Because I've seen some crazy, "cross the galaxy in a year" numbers for Warp travel in normal conditions.
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    How fast you are have a hell of lot of caveats to have a actual reliable number.

    1. Do you have some sort of navigation capacity or are you doing blind, short jumps?
    2. If you have a navigation ability, how good is it?
    3. Are you Chaos aligned and are cheating like cheating bastards and bargained for daemon(s) to help ferry your ship along?

    etc.
     
    Is this usable in a gravity well? 'Cause Warp travel generally exits either outside of a star's gravity or at a Lagrange point.
     
    Derpmind said:
    "You don't need to go fast if you're shipping large amounts of nonperishable goods."

    Better?
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    RIP to that crew. Gotta pay a hell of a lot of overtime, tho!
    TheGrape said:
    Is this usable in a gravity well? 'Cause Warp travel generally exits either outside of a star's gravity or at a Lagrange point.
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    Yes, but it is absolute murder on the Drive. Enough to make your military logistics officers draw guns and press them against your temple if you even so much as *think* about putting it on any military ships.
     
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