[X] Plan Everything But The Mule
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[X] 0: Shuttlebay (+20,000 Tons)
[X] 1: Transporter (+10,000 Tons)
[X] 2: No Cargo Bay
[X] 3: Brig (+10,000 Tons)
[X] 4: Tractor Beam (+10,000 Tons)
[X] 1: Transporter (+10,000 Tons)
[X] 2: No Cargo Bay
[X] 3: Brig (+10,000 Tons)
[X] 4: Tractor Beam (+10,000 Tons)
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[X] Plan Everything But The Mule
I'd love to put them all in...but something had to go.
I'd love to put them all in...but something had to go.
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[X] Plan Ranger
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This decided it for me. The extra utility of a shuttlebay is both somewhat redundant and not worth losing so much mobility. But we can easily fit in and afford a cargo bay without losing mobility, which is as flexible a utility option as it can get.
[X] Plan Everything But The Mule
There's some vote splitting happening here. These two plans are identical, but have different names. And because Plan Feature Creep hasn't been voted for fully yet, it only appears in the tally as a single line.
dhasenan
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You could have police-operated tugs in addition to the cutters. There's a doctrine toward having a wider variety of more specialized vessels, but the nature of the quest makes it preferable to have more general purpose vessels.I would think we would find impounded vessels quite hard to move with disabled engines and no tractor beam
Others mentioned a situation where a small number of crew members were smuggling a small amount of stuff. Besides that, there are political situations where it's not expedient to detain the ship, but some of their cargo is illegal in the Federation. The crew can choose between surrendering that cargo versus leaving the Federation entirely. Or if there is a minor civil penalty, it might not be worth anyone's time to bring in the whole ship.
[X] Plan Ranger
I don't really see the need for a 10 kiloton cargo bay, this is a space cop car. Pull people over, write them speeding tickets, harass them about their taillights, brig if you need to arrest anybody. If you suddenly need to seize a lot of contraband you call the dudes with the reinforced van to come meet you and pick up all the space cocaine, not attach a trailer to your police cruiser. So in the interests of keeping costs down just stick with the essentials IMO.
I don't really see the need for a 10 kiloton cargo bay, this is a space cop car. Pull people over, write them speeding tickets, harass them about their taillights, brig if you need to arrest anybody. If you suddenly need to seize a lot of contraband you call the dudes with the reinforced van to come meet you and pick up all the space cocaine, not attach a trailer to your police cruiser. So in the interests of keeping costs down just stick with the essentials IMO.
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So the way I see it plan Ranger can hold ships and capture criminals.
It's a solid ship, and functions much like a general police car. I think it would win.
However I do think the addition of the cargo bay, in the everything but the mule plan, adds a very large extra aspect of being able to work independently without needing a second ship to function.
That's pretty huge in terms of simplifying logistics, reducing costs and speeding up the entire process of taking contraband. Needing only one ship instead of two when something is discovered is a massive boon, and a cargo bay adds minimal cost both upfront and in upkeep, at only a tiny malus to maneuverability that doesn't even drop us a category.
Save an entire ship. Get the cargo bay.
It's a solid ship, and functions much like a general police car. I think it would win.
However I do think the addition of the cargo bay, in the everything but the mule plan, adds a very large extra aspect of being able to work independently without needing a second ship to function.
That's pretty huge in terms of simplifying logistics, reducing costs and speeding up the entire process of taking contraband. Needing only one ship instead of two when something is discovered is a massive boon, and a cargo bay adds minimal cost both upfront and in upkeep, at only a tiny malus to maneuverability that doesn't even drop us a category.
Save an entire ship. Get the cargo bay.
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I've updated my vote to have the entire plan added.
@Mechanis you are splitting the vote. Is there anything you can do about that?
TheShadowDeamon
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Alright, I'm curious how it's going:
NexusEye
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This isn't really a space cop car, it's a space coast guard ship and we wouldn't just be pulling over space cars, we'd be pulling over space ships including freighter ships which may contain large amounts of cargo we may want to confiscate.
The goal isn't to produce a versatile ship, though, the requirements are for a cheap, focused design. The design goals didn't even mention a brig, the Tellarites just stuck one in.
The Denubian design doesn't even bother with anything other than intercepting ships since other vessels in-system will be able to deal with everything else. Their single shuttle is just in case they need to board the ship they've captured.
So we could stick on four or five utilities, win the contest, and then not sell any ships anyways because the Tellarite design is cheaper and meets all the requirements regardless, and the Denubians have the most tactically effective design which will improve the longevity of these interdictors. The only reason this competition is being held is because modern civilian ships are getting to the point that they can outrun old interdictors, so they need to be replaced.
Both of the other ships presented do seem to assume that there are other ships available, which makes perfect sense for an in-system police ship.
Does a cargo bay really add much capability, though? The tractor beam already allows us to hold the cargo and crew. The brig is useful if some of the crew needs to be separated. But in what circumstance are we going to need to separate the cargo from the other ship and the crew, but be happy to keep on our ship?
Yeah, and it operates close enough to friendly infrastructure that if someone has contraband they can turn around and turn it in themselves, or we can call someone to come and get it.
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Or transporting equipment somewhere. Such as, say, setting up a listening post at a known criminal rendezvous point, or delivering small shipments in-system. Or even out of system for that matter, as these would make decent courier ships as well.
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in that situation (with no cargo bay), you wouldn't arrest them all—you would escort/tow the vessel back to a stardock and sort everything out there (remember, this is an in-system vessel, primarily, so it wouldn't be too far). I don't see any civil rights issues here—if your ship is found to be harboring a huge amount of contraband, you can't get too mad if your ship is taken in for a bit. the story post made a very big deal about "how much you can cut out" etc so I think that should be taken into account
