[X] Half-saucer. Aim for a capable medium cruiser. (Industry: 4)
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If the cruiser is steady enough to keep phasers on-target on a warbird, the warbird can draw a bead on the cruiser. The Thunderchild managed 5 seconds with 12 cannons on-target, and if we're being charitable the arrowhead cruiser might be able to mount 6 in the forward arc to keep on target. At best that's double the time-to-kill (and I wouldn't be surprised if the difference isn't linear frankly) on a much more fragile hull - I don't particularly like that math.
I might be incorrect here but my understanding is that manoeuvrability as a stat is as much or more about being able to orient the ship as we need it to as dodging. Star Trek seems to be bad at dodging.
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Honestly compressing costs would be ideal.
Something like
2 Arrowhead
2 deflector
5 Nacelles and Impulse
8 Tactical
And then vomit out piles of the damn things
Something like
2 Arrowhead
2 deflector
5 Nacelles and Impulse
8 Tactical
And then vomit out piles of the damn things
[X] Half-saucer. Aim for a capable medium cruiser. (Industry: 4)
Sorry, are you referring to mobility at sublight, or at warp? It is absolutely possible that a bad prototyping roll would reduce our speed at warp, but a reduction in mobility at sublight would be really unusual, and is not how the prototyping system for the quest works as far as I'm aware.
In terms of a reduction in warp speed, I think this would be annoying, but may be something we can cope with given the ship will be moving in mixed task groups alongside Stingray and Thunderchild class ships anyway. Given that this design is newer, even a reduction in cruising speed is unlikely to push it below the Stingray which has a retrofitted warp system. Also, the vertical nacelle arrangement may also offer an inherent speed boost before prototyping is taken into account, depending on whether the design concept is just being pursued for layout reasons, or for better warp geometry.
NavySeel
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Spending 8 on tactical, seriously, that's only one more phase cannons than the Stingray.
Honestly this is less than the stingray on everything.
Only 17 industry total, for that amount you might as well put it directly into coffins for the crew.
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sorry, should've been 9 actually - 9 industry is 4 PPCs and 1 proton torpedo launcher, which is a very solid armament for a light combatant
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I don't recall seeing any maneuvering penalties listed with the experimental nacelle layout; was this mentioned in a different post?
Empress_Boog
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[X] Half-saucer. Aim for a capable medium cruiser. (Industry: 4)
Losing out on torpedoes is to big an ask for me.
Losing out on torpedoes is to big an ask for me.
In retrospect it's kind of a shame that we didn't go for the frigate design just before the war got serious. It made sense given our perspective as the time, as we'd just upgunned the Stingray and it seemed Thoroughly Okayish as a combatant. But looking at where we are now, it would have been great to pump out six to eight ships per turn which could piggyback off of the logistics of our NX-class cruisers, and have a lot more teeth.
I suspect it's the "Nacelles and Impulse" which may be pulling costs down here. Two nacelles is probably two to four Industry, and impulse engines have costed two Industry each before.
We can fit one torpedo launcher for sure, and two if we go for the vertical nacelle configuration.
Not trying to say don't vote for the half-saucer if you want to here, but just to clarify.
I suspect it's the "Nacelles and Impulse" which may be pulling costs down here. Two nacelles is probably two to four Industry, and impulse engines have costed two Industry each before.
We can fit one torpedo launcher for sure, and two if we go for the vertical nacelle configuration.
Not trying to say don't vote for the half-saucer if you want to here, but just to clarify.
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In retrospect I have no regrets we chose the Dreadnought design and I'm tired of posts that keep harping on about how our successful design somehow wasn't correct.
Fair enough @Derpmind , but I wasn't talking about the dreadnought design. I was talking about the frigate, which was a completely separate decision.
It was the vote just before the Romulan attack on Earth.
It was the vote just before the Romulan attack on Earth.
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[X] Half-saucer. Aim for a capable medium cruiser. (Industry: 4)
This seems to lead towards fitting in more torpedoes
This seems to lead towards fitting in more torpedoes
Our Stingrays are suffering fairly high casualties right now, that's an outcome of war sadly. Let's hope this new design can be a bit more survivable and pack a heavier punch.
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Small ships are always gonna be fragile. Just less mass to absorb hits.