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Would any of the Endbringers be able to successfully navigate The Tomb Of Horrors?

I'm straining my head imagining scenarios where the Endbringers have to work together and adventure as a murderhobo party while still being at full (or at minimum sandbagging) power.
 
Kryslin said:
*The Endbringers, here, are constructs driven by a bound consciousness, which serves as a basis of the things powerset. Those powers are amplified and focused by a shard cluster, which also controls the bound consciousness. We've already gotten a look into what one of them is thinking. The core is the interface through which the construct's mass and powers is projected, and once stripped, is extremely fragile. Compared to the size of the Endbringer, they're small - Ziz' would be about the size of a baseball.
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Actually, that reminds me. Are there any plans in the works to do something with the remaining Endbringers? We know about the six that showed up in Canon(Behemoth, Leviathan, Simurgh, Khonsu, Tohu, Bohu) as well as the three that we saw elsewhere, but that still leaves eleven Endbringers with no form or powers, just a core in mothballs on some random variation of Earth in the Earth Bet reality chain. It'd be nice to see a Fic that actually does something with them, as so few choose to do so.
 
Code-Perseus said:
Actually, that reminds me. Are there any plans in the works to do something with the remaining Endbringers? We know about the six that showed up in Canon(Behemoth, Leviathan, Simurgh, Khonsu, Tohu, Bohu) as well as the three that we saw elsewhere, but that still leaves eleven Endbringers with no form or powers, just a core in mothballs on some random variation of Earth in the Earth Bet reality chain. It'd be nice to see a Fic that actually does something with them, as so few choose to do so.
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Crimson Square's Learning to be Human (here on SV) does. Also, Queen.
 
Been a bit, but I believe late in the story a few others get pulled in as well due to the FUBAR Pie that kicks off the end sequence. Or maybe I'm thinking of the "Maul falls into canon Earth Bet" omake side story.
 
I will point out that Levi is one of those warriors who fought against the Entities only to get Reforged Into a Minion.

So the best-case scenario might be for him to escape the fight alive. Ziz is trying to break Eden's hold over the Endbringers, and even if they keep their power at sandbag levels afterwards to avoid accidentally crushing us puny fleshlings, that's still pretty damn powerful.
 
Code-Perseus said:
Actually, that reminds me. Are there any plans in the works to do something with the remaining Endbringers? We know about the six that showed up in Canon(Behemoth, Leviathan, Simurgh, Khonsu, Tohu, Bohu) as well as the three that we saw elsewhere, but that still leaves eleven Endbringers with no form or powers, just a core in mothballs on some random variation of Earth in the Earth Bet reality chain. It'd be nice to see a Fic that actually does something with them, as so few choose to do so.
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Atonement uses them as well, though not until late in the story shortly before it goes on indefinite hiatus.
 
jmcdavid said:
What I want to know is, can he imitate Betterman Nebula's Psycho Voice finisher, and destroy an enemy just by screaming at it?
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His roar acts like a "cone" shaped, AOE, damage-upgraded Disintegrate spell. He uses it to lead in against armies, and finishes them off before they can start to fight in the process. Most voice based blasters, from any setting, wish they were as effective...

Now, a question about USS Montana; in our world, officially, only the USS New Jersey received the minor modifications* needed to carry and use Katie Rounds, and only in their number three turret. Did the USS Montana, in this AU, receive similar modifications, and thus in theory nuclear strike capability?

* From what little I understand, a special shielded magazine and ammo loading carriage were added to protect the crew from the radiation given off by multiple stripped down gun-type nuclear shells. However, my understanding is at best third hand, and may well be inaccurate. Feel free to correct me if I am wrong.
 
Code-Perseus said:
Actually, that reminds me. Are there any plans in the works to do something with the remaining Endbringers? We know about the six that showed up in Canon(Behemoth, Leviathan, Simurgh, Khonsu, Tohu, Bohu) as well as the three that we saw elsewhere, but that still leaves eleven Endbringers with no form or powers, just a core in mothballs on some random variation of Earth in the Earth Bet reality chain. It'd be nice to see a Fic that actually does something with them, as so few choose to do so.
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Hybrid Hive: Eat Shard, by the same author as Mauling Snarks, has all Endbringers, save Behemoth, killed by Minerva in one battle, yes even the unactivated ones.
 
I finally caught up with reading this! Jeez, took me long enough... Anyway, I'm glad to see that this is still alive! Can't wait to see more!
Jacen1 said:
Standard Class Battleship
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USS Montana was never a Standard-type battleship, she was the lead ship for the Montana-class of battleships. No, the Standards were a group of twelve ships spread across five classes, all using the same design doctrine, and none of them were ever named Montana.

Just a note, the USS Arizona was a Standard-type, specifically a Pennsylvania-class battleship.
 
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Bronze_Moose said:
I finally caught up with reading this! Jeez, took me long enough... Anyway, I'm glad to see that this is still alive! Can't wait to see more!

USS Montana was never a Standard-type battleship, she was the lead ship for the Montana-class of battleships. No, the Standards were a group of twelve ships spread across five classes, all using the same design doctrine, and none of them were ever named Montana.

Just a note, the USS Arizona was a Standard-type, specifically a Pennsylvania-class battleship.
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Technically, but the Montanas were intended to be the first of a new Standard series like the 1920 SoDaks before them. You could also consider the NorCars and SoDaks to have been attempts at Treaty compliant Standards as well.
 
The Montana class of which the USS Montana was the lead was interesting in that would have been pretty much the most technologically advanced and most heavily armored and armed surface warships ever put to sea to that point with 12 16 inch main battery guns, 20 5 inch guns and absolutely bristling with anti-aircraft batteries to protect both the battleship and other ships and it apparently also would have carried 3-4 sea planes for scouting which the Iowa class did as well as I recall.

It would have been the Iowa classes big sister so to speak as their aesthetic designs were broadly similar but the Montana class would have been 32 feet longer and 13 feet wider packing more armor and a extra battery of main guns, it also would have also slightly slower as its expected maximum speed would have been 28 knots while the Iowa class's speed I believe was around 33 knots, 35 knots with a light load.
 
Here is the big question about the Katie.

Would Monty the shipgirl, being a spiritual being, be able to get the big boom without all of that annoying nuclear radiation irradiating the area afterwards?
 
Kryslin said:
And would probably annoy Eidolon (stealing his thunder), and now, the Swiss Cheees Endbringer is after you.
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That reminds me of the Calzone golem. Yes, it's an actual published WotC thing, in one of their 3.5-era modules. it starts off blindingly fast, but each time fire-damage is dealt to it, it looses 5ft of movement -and- gains some amount of temporary HP -and- a point of AC as the crust bakes.

It was a wierd and fun monster to run. ^^
 
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A Quick Dive into Alternate Naval History
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    • Keep in mind that ALL the battleships in the US Navy were nuclear capable after their 1980's refit. Tomahawk could carry a nuclear ordnance package, at least the Block 1 could, not that they ever did. In Belated Battleships, Wisconsin starts throwing tomahawks at something, which roar off as cruise missiles. So, for sacrificing 4 5" gun turrets and all the small caliber AA guns, they added 64 Tomahawk and 16 Harpoon anti-ship cruise missiles.

    All the Iowa class and Montana class ships recieved this upgrade. Modern RADAR, Communications, gunnery and fire control, Cruise Missiles, and CIWS/Phalanx.

    The other thing to remember is that the definition of Panamax (the classification of the widest ships that can go through the Panama Canal) is 25' wider in this AU. The widening of the Panama Canal was part of FDR's 'New Deal'. When Japan withdrew from the Naval Treaties, the US didn't discount the threat Japan could be like they did in our own history, so part of the 'New Deal' was getting new and better ships in the Fleet. (It helped that the government was far less isolationist as well.)

    So, in this AU, The Iowa class BB's were laid down two years earlier, having their trials in 41 and joining the fleet throughout '42. Montana and Ohio were laid down in 41, had trials in early '43, and were in the Pacific in early '44. They served with distinction, and traded shells at extremely long range with thier counterparts of the IJN (though no hits were scored in the two encounters). Having learned from the shortcomings of the Iowa class ships, the torpedo protection was such that Montana took a direct hit from a Long Lance torpedo. It only slowed her down a little bit, kept an Essex class carrier from getting hit, and proceeded to hammer it's targets ashore.

    She was getting ready to head back to Ulithi Atoll for repairs when WW2 ended, and the Japanese surrendered. She joined her sisters in Tokyo bay for the surrender, and then left for Hawaii (Interesting note - Battleships, especially in WW2, were rather short on extra accommodations. So using them for Operation Magic Carpet would make for a miserable experience for all aboard.) She arrived in Hawaii, had her torpedo protection repaired, and left for California. She was placed in reserve, and people though she'd be scrapped in 20 years. Like the Iowas, she was brought out of reserve for Korea, and then used for training purposes off the West Coast until Vietnam, where she provided fire support and effectively wrecked most of the North Vietnamese ports with her sisters.

    After Vietnam, they were again placed in reserve. In the early 80's they were modernized, and then forcibly placed in reserve because of the rise of Parahumans. The US Navy still has all 6 ships on the register, and maintains them as best they can. USS Missouri stands her watch in Hawaii. USS New Jersey is berthed at Trenton, USS Iowa at the port of Los Angeles, Wisconsin at Hampton Roads, VA. USS Montana is berthed on the Potomac River outside Washington, DC., and USS Ohio is berthed at Seattle.
     
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    • I'd imagine any Japanese Imperial naval captain was likely shitting themselves once they realized just what sort of battleship they engaging given I suspect the Montana class could have engaged even any of the Yamato class in close range and come out the victor and be in good enough shape to go looking for another target.

    Not that they needed to given the American warships had far superior fire control and radar compared to anything any of the axis powers had though if I recall correctly at the Japanese battleships didn't even have onboard radar at all which caused them issues a number of times.
     
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