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They wouldn't be predisposed to it in the same way some other races are, but I don't think there would be as significant issues as with the Light. In theory, you could just tell the Kirin Tor to do some training and end up with some mage orcs at the end. Arcane magic is pretty chill in this regard, and the Orcs might even like it if they publicised that they're actually made from arcane magic via the Titans originally.Honestly im more intrested on how you think the orcs would take to the arcane, specially how would interact with being a blademaster. An thing that would likely be more popular between orcs.
Is for you to discuss lol, but yes in theory you could indeed help out a lot. Gilneas is having lots of problems now, if you could manage to help them out they'd be willing to provide you with a lot in return, for example perhaps their skill in gunsmithing.though does the strife in the Alliance mean it's a prime opportunity for us to gain leverage, or that it's a mess that isn't worth our time?
To note that Grok isn't stupid. He's not necessarily politically educated, but if he worked out what he actually wanted and had conversations wtih people, he would have the capacity to be a reasonable politician. Perhaps never an extraordinary one, given his inability to compromise his honour, but certainly a capable one.So seize the opportunity and be as a political animal that would surprise Danrothan, Feldad and Katrana Prestor in being out maneuvered is also an option? You have links with the dwarves make use of it as a start.
Assume that each option is indeed possible rather than that you're just going to walk up to the wrathgate and die. We're still relatively early in the timeline, the Lich King hasn't fully woken up yet, KT has just retreated back to Northrend, they're still building most of their necropoli. You'd be the expeditionary force, you'd be also looking around, doing some diplo maybe, various things.We lack the numbers and the supply chain to do anything meaningful in Northrend save die. I'm not saying we can't go in the future, just that trying to do it as we are now is suicide.
I can see that concern, so happy to take suggestions as to how it might work. Yes it might be less interesting than a war arc, but you'd have the opportunities to get involved in military things too.
What Grok knows and what we might know is obviously differnet, but generally speaking:What do we currently know of the remaining orcs on the continent and their leadership?
- Horde settlements, usually expeditionary forces under Kor'kron commanders in Hammerfall, Stonard, Grom'gol, Reaventusk and New Kargath. These are there to project power and monitor certain points of interest. For example, Stonard is there to keep an eye on the Dark Portal.
- Dragonmaw clan, with settlements in northern Khaz Modan and are just sort of about, they're not doing anything in particular.
- Dark Horde settlements, centred on Blackrock Mountain and led by teh Blackrock clan, but also integrating other forces like Neferians black dragons.
- Fel orc clans, probably fairly small and fairly insane, hanging around the Dark Portal
- Bleeding Hollow clan, the Eastern Kingdoms half who stayed in Stranglethorn to live there because it reminded them of home.
There will also be groups which don't necessarily fall into these categories as strictly. For example, there are clans in the hills and mountains around Lordaeron don't necessarily belong to either the normal Horde or Dark Horde, but who both groups compete over. These will be minor clans, no more than a few hundred individuals. You've been round gathering some of them up and recruiting them, but there'll probably be more in other areas. Similarly, there'll probably be more such orcs in places like Redridge who again don't specifically owe alliegance to the Dark Horde, but who still are influenced by them and have ties to them.
In terms of Vark's ideas, he sees things more through the lens of the existing power structures. He would suggest walking up to Blackrock Mountain and declaring the Mak'gora. That is something you could indeed do, but you'd have to do it with your warriors with you, otherwise they could reasonably say 'you dont have any army clearly you dont have the proper rank to challenge'. And the only way the dwarves will let you march an army through their land is if you work for the alliance.
This would also require some sort of political ideal though. What does Grok stand for? What alternate vision does he have for the Orcish people? If he took Blackrock Spire, what woudl he do then?
Vark, as observed previously, doesn't necessariyl think in these terms, and he's aware of that weakness. He's a very direct guy and he can understand that neither the Dark nor normal Horde's politcial settlements are acceptable as they are, but he's not the sort of guy to have a grand strategic plan or political philosophy to acheive such a thing.
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