Orc Quest; or, A Critical Examination of Agency Through in Interactive Fiction (Warcraft)

My question to Varimathras probably would be, considering their vast array of powers, and abilities allowing to escape any accountability, why do the Dreadlords even serve some higher masters, and not try to become rulers on their own? What do they get from Legion's destruction of worlds, or from the deaths of millions?
 
So the Forneus idea is writing itself when I look at what Fel influence does to anyone. Cyrukh on getting the full brunt of Guldan's cipher of damnation didn't feel so well. Since Forneus got a fragment of it from Feldad I'm taking it that he got scars from it that still hurts like hell. I'll include Proudpeak getting demon chow. What happens then is they both get ostracised when they're sent back to Deepholm and hate that.

edit: Exposition is quite easy just researching the path to getting there. I'm already halfway there. It's the fight scene and conclusion that'll be challenging.
Forneus the Duke of the Inner Earth still felt it. Despite the contempt he felt for those corrupted fleshlings claiming lineage from the elements through Grond, their damned demonic heritage still bested him sending him back from whence he came to Deepholm.

He can still feel it ever since. More of their wretched kind attempted to commune and calm his fury. Such ignorance! The children of the Princess Theradras through the Kolkar demanded retribution for their kind's deaths and he accepted to be the instrument of their will to lay waste to the demon spawned wretches homes and drive them to the seas only to be denied that with but a single word of power after kicking the fleshlings doors open.

That damnable word! Once it was uttered all Forneus could feel was agony as he was dragged back to the Earth and to Deepholm. It continued to burn him even as he returned and he screamed a pain that hurt him far more than what he had experienced in his many uncounted years as a highly regarded child of the Earth ever since those from above enslaved them and then another of the outsiders defeated them and banished the elements to these planes.

His brothers and sisters avoided him. The forbidden word left a mark that marred his form and made him ironically no better than what he regarded the children of the Breakers as. Tainted of demons and now he was as tainted as they. Gone was the pristine crystalline formation scattered throughout his body. It was now dull of it's shine and his body of stone and geodes instead glowed from the scars left by the word.

Proudpeak his charge joined him in his bitterness in being ostracised. His was a different pain. When that twisted devourer feasted upon him he sought to end his suffering but his recovery in Deepholm turned out wrong leaving pristine rock and stone twisted with the flesh of the faces of fleshlings in a crude parody of what afflicted their jailers guardians from their masters who then channeled that pain through those faces in a scream that stunned and hurt his enemies before he can move in for the kill to smash them to pieces.

It was humiliating to stand before the throne of his liege Therazane in one of her processions to be singled out and found unworthy of her court's presence reeking of the demonic.

In her mercy, she recognised no fault in choosing to answer the summons of the children of her favored daughter and so his title would not be taken from him. Instead he and Proudpeak would be sent away tantamount to an exile to guard Deepholm against any outsiders and this he did with fury and hatred in his duties with Proudpeak driving away the stone troggs that dared feast on what belonged to his liege while keeping watch on the fleshling cultists that gathered to the side of the corrupted Earth aspect Deathwing until his awakening.

Outsiders....... they always cause trouble whoever they are even if they claim kinship to the Earth. This Deathwing was no different who claimed allegiance to their former masters who forced them into their service and he spared no mercy to his mad followers congregating in Deepholm.

Both their unique natures allowed them to withstand the cursed fungus the stone troggs inflicted on his kin that the spores would instead die in their presence and for Proudpeak's faces they would devour their cursed kin or the trogg pests and put them to rest.

Under orders from Gorsik who despite his contempt for their appearances grew a grudging respect for their abilities to stand guard in the Crimson Expanses as their unique nature allowed them a level of immunity that they themselves did not against the dreaded fungi spores allowing them to drive away the stone troggs and clear the expanse of the fungal infection. However like a tug of war the troggs would come back and the struggle continued anew. This time he and Proudpeak were now in control and he would be surprised by an encounter from the past that would condemn them to this repugnant form.
 
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Only thing I can think of is asking about Jubei'thos movements, how the Forsaken are taking things considering Orcs are meant to be their allies and magic. Be interesting to see how he sees the various types of magic (whether derogatory or with wary respect).
 
I won't be putting all of these in the interlude, it's a conversation between a handler and an asset not an academic conference, but yes those are good points
 
Surprisingly just researching the Deepholm the background wrote itself. The contempt of an elemental for the mortals. Their past allegiance to the old gods and their imprisonment. The corruption done to Forneus and Proudpeak through Gul'dan's remnant of the cipher and the devouring of the Ur'zhul and the ostracization that comes with it even as it proves to be of benefit because of their enemies at home like the stone troggs who corrupt their kin with fungal spores leading to fungal giants they put out of their misery.

Might have even got it all done today if it weren't for other RL stuff involving a visit to the doctor, haircut and more chores.
 
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I don't know much about Varimathras; I also don't know what Grok knows about Varimathras. What's his significance to Grok and/or the lore in general?

In the story, our undead mage apparently works for him (I think). Did we have any interactions with him before?
 
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I don't know much about Varimathras; I also don't know what Grok knows about Varimathras. What's his significance to Grok and/or the lore in general?

In the story, our undead mage apparently works for him (I think). Did we have any interactions with him before?
He's a dreadlord who used to work for the burning legion but after being beaten he now works for the forsaken belonging to the horde.

Grok first met him because Feldad is currying favors and so delivered a package to him.

Castillian hasn't reveled his true loyalties so it will only be when Varimathras reveals himself when Grok will connect the dots.
 
I don't know much about Varimathras
So yea as rx915 says basically. Varimathras is indeed a former Legion agent, who subsequently was put in charge of the Forsaken's intel service. Grok will be resonably familiar with him, given he's a notable demon in the Horde with public prescence etc and Grok is from the (supposedly anti-)demon clan, but he only met him briefly when he dropped the mysterious demonic item off in like Lordaeron 4 or something.
Castillian hasn't reveled his true loyalties so it will only be when Varimathras reveals himself when Grok will connect the dots.
Yea it'll be pretty apparent. Even if the Dreadlords hadn't infiltrated the Crusade's leadership, Varimathras would be trying to get his Forsaken agents in there still.
 
The remaining question is if Varimathas knows his brother still lives which hinges on whether he faked his death or Balnazzar as the best of the three had an ace in his sleeve neither had in a sudden case of death.

So it's both of them going against each other with Varimathas unaware that Saidan is him or he connected with him through agents like Castilian.
 
I honestly can't think of what Grok would want to discuss with Varimathas. As far as I can surmise, he'd probably approach the meeting with a modicum of caution, given the Dreadlord's former allegiances, and try to subtly fish for information. Perhaps feeling out the relation between Varimathas, his father, and their affiliate organizations. Maybe?
 
This still assumes that the chief of the Scarlet Crusade would want to out himself as Varimathras Balnazzar the demon in front of Grok'mash, expecting the latter to not go into battle mode.
In general, it's possible if people just think of him as Neeru's son, but IMO he would know him better than that by this point.

Edited: ah no it's Castillian that reports to Varimathras and asks for a secret discussion with Grok'mash.
 
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This still assumes that the chief of the Scarlet Crusade would want to out himself as Varimathras the demon in front of Grok'mash, expecting the latter to not go into battle mode.

In general, it's possible if people just think of him as Neeru's son, but IMO he would know him better than that by this point. Or, does he?
The chief is actually Balnazzar.
 
.... I am almost certain Arthas iced that one.

EDIT: Ok correction it was Sylvanas via a coerced Verimathras.
 
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Wait, I'm confused. What sort of questions should we even ask?
Well what questions would you like to ask? This isn't an academic conference, it's a pretty quick chat between people, so don't expect an extensive briefing. Varimathras however is a very knowledgeable and well informed person though so there's a lot you could discuss.

You may want to concentrate on particular things, you may want to get some actionable intel for your battle in naxx, it's that sort of thing
 
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So questions like 'what holds the burning legion together?' 'what do people get out of destroying places that have never heard of you before?'
 
Well something more specific can be the idea of death knights. He should have more to say even though I don't know if it's a good idea to confide in him about Jubei'thos.
 
Is Jubeithos on the side of Varimathras? I thought he was on the side of the Scourge... And Varimathras should not be with the Legion, bit who knows...
We surely need info on "how to face death knights?".
A good second question would be "where do you think the impact of the Crusade will be on the Horde, given their bad relationship with the Forsaken? "
 
And Varimathras should not be with the Legion, bit who knows...
it is detable just when varimathras rejoined the legion or if he was always part of it and his actions in the wraith of the lichking were always what was gonna happen . Also I got Varimathras and Balnazar mix up so can we ask Vari hey is Saiden Balnazar/j
 
Is Jubeithos on the side of Varimathras? I thought he was on the side of the Scourge... And Varimathras should not be with the Legion, bit who knows...
We surely need info on "how to face death knights?".
A good second question would be "where do you think the impact of the Crusade will be on the Horde, given their bad relationship with the Forsaken? "
I like the first question so I'll just write out the vote for that one. The second one just seemed weird to me, like we know the Crusade would either be manipulative/hostile with the Horde, so it just seems weird to ask. Also, do we know the Scourge came from Northrend? I'll put write in a leading question for that one as an option.

[] Write-In: How does one fight death knights?
[] Write-In: What is the current status of our fight against the Scourge?
[] Write-In: What new or relevant information do we have regarding the fight against the Scourge?
[] Write-In: What other locations can we recruit from?
[] Write-In: Are the Forsaken willing to take the fight against their former master, if so, can we recruit them?

What do you guys and gals think of these questions?
 
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