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Yea from Lordaeron 4,
Dathrohan looks at you. "There may be much you do not know regarding these matters, and no doubt the departure of your people before the war against the Scourge means you're lacking in particular information if you don't know the place of Ner'zhul in all this."
"Ner'zhul!" you exclaim, taken aback, how did he fit into all this? As far as you know he'd been destroyed by his own magics and cast into the Twisting Nether twenty years ago or more.
I do find it quite amusing that we as players and people engaged in the lore know a fair amount about actually quite obscure events. I wrote Grok for example as not acutally knowing the Scourge aren't part of the Legion anymore, because why would they?
1. Depends on whether you mean right there or in general. Let's say there's a few thousand orcs in the hammerfell/frostwolves/warsong area, roughly equally divided between the three parties. In the immediate area, there's your warband of 200ish who are sitting around eating and chilling, there's various people who've come to socialise, serve food, or guard the warband (without looking like they're doing that, so lets call that another hundred or so. Then there's everyone else standing about the central square in the town, people hanging out of windows or watching etc, so that's another couple of hundred people, and finally there's the hundred or so people with Drum Fel, Shatterskull, Gol'dir and so on.
Re questions, what sort of thing do you mean? Sure you can ask stuff, that's fine, similarly I can remark on whether questions might be appropirate.
Yea they're fine really. This would be where you discuss 2 and 3. I've opined on Orcish culture a bit so you have some general ideas. As I've noted the Orcs don't do peace well unless they're back with the traditional clan structures, which have been disrupted, that they've never had an agriculturalist tradition, they're either hunter-gatherers, or pastoralists at the most 'advanced', as such they don't really do peace because their clan structures incentivise intercine warfare. They may simply have never thought to even try trading seriously with the humans, though there's some trading going on on the side perhaps.
All of these orcs 'want' to be secure, mighty, to maintain territory and have various services, they want to improve their own capabilities, the Warsong for example might want a more reliable source of food for their wargs. They don't necessarily want peace because they don't necessarily think it's important, an appeal to peace is pretty foreign to them in culture, you might say 'hey guys lets not fight', but that would be as weird to them as if I asked you if you to stop your job and go out raiding for your food etc instead.
As for what they 'need', they need all the standard stuff like supplies, food, security, whatever, but I assume you're really meaning what do they actually need in terms of situation. Well, Dathrohan is implying that unless they stop raiding then he'll eventually come get them, for example when he's done with the Scourge, so they 'need' the security that peace would provide etc.
However...
There is indeed an issue of whether this would be persuasive to them. 'hey guys you should all move because the alliance is getting stronger and at some point you might be overcome by them, maybe in a couple of years I dont know'. Indeed, where might they live? There are indeed unsettled lands because of the Scourge's corruption of them, but it's not as if Hammerfell is a lovely place, it wasn't settled for a specific reason.
Certainly, Grok is pretty convincing in some respects, he's clearly proven that the Alliance aren't genocidal etc because he's being supplied by them and is in command of alliance people (the stromic knights, the scarlet people, Kalaran Windblade etc), but more than that requires persuasion, consideration and so on.
Also keep in mind that moving so many people would be a reasonably difficult task. Not impossible of course, but it would take a lot of arranging, which you wouldn't be doing, you'd be arranging it for example, but Drum Fel et al know this, they'll know you don't have a whole fleet in your back pocket for example, so Drum Fel would know that any deal you arrange would have to actually be reasonable and workable.
I've given some hints as to this but yea that might be it, you'd have to see, if you'd gone to check out the mysterious lights you'd know more, but you didn't and any evidence is probably gone by now.
