- Location
- Hell
Yeah we do!
We need:
Nails, Hinges, and Screws
Pots and pans
Powdered metals for dyes
Buttons, Fasteners, and Clasps
Bands for barrels
Arrowheads
Wire
Hoes, Plows, and Scythes
Saws, Hammers, and Pickaxes
We need so much stuff.
NorseQuest: Collective Edition (Group-Based Xianxia Settlement-Builder)
- Thread starter I.F. Ister
- Start date
- Original
We need:
Nails, Hinges, and Screws
Pots and pans
Powdered metals for dyes
Buttons, Fasteners, and Clasps
Bands for barrels
Arrowheads
Wire
Hoes, Plows, and Scythes
Saws, Hammers, and Pickaxes
We need so much stuff.
- Pronouns
- He/Him
Yeah, general communal stuff. Spearheads as well as arrowheads, but tools and nails are both big.
- Location
- Goose Land
The settlement has a lot of stuff that needs doing so this is definitely least priority,but an Onigar sized Recurve Bow made of Iron would be nice, as would appropriate arrowheads and a single Entirely Iron Arrow appropriate to the bow-
But, again, this is least priority stuff, and I haven't even encountered an Onigar to loot for iron for the project.
- Location
- Southampton, Great Britain
- Pronouns
- He/Him
At the moment, all of the Onigar iron and brass has been going into the communal stockpile since there has been no reason for anyone to hoard them yet.
- Pronouns
- He/Him
Yeah, but if he's asking for big stuff and jumping to the front of the queue I'm inclined to agree that having provided more of it would help. Gunnar just personally provided 1/3 of it...if anyone gets something a little extra it would logically be him. People who've provided none of it waiting a minute seems right.
For me, I think Agmundr practicing on basic stuff like nails before trying to make big projects is probably a good idea.
- Pronouns
- he/him
Yeah nails. The first task of any blacksmiths apprentice and something we need about ten thousand of
- Pronouns
- he/him
I'd love to get a big hammer made but I might search the mountains for some lightning related material first
- Pronouns
- He/Him
Yeah. For the record, that queue would be something like this based on Oni clubs and armor acquired:
1. Gunnar (brought in two clubs, involved in a mission for another, involved in one mission that brought in armor)
2. Ivor + Njal (brought in one club together, no armor) + Ragnarr + Amlodi + Sigmund (involved in two expeditions that brought in clubs and armor)
3. Rikard, and everyone else on the Quarry Expedition or Maize Trade Mission (each involved in one mission that brought one each club and armor in)
4. Everyone else.
Agmundr himself would be in category #3 based on metal acquired, but since he's doing the work he skips to the top.
But really, I don't think even people on those lists should be asking for anything big as of yet. Too little iron, too much stuff we need.
Of right, and @Aabcehmu maybe go with brass nails for a while, along with using the brass for stuff like cookware. We have a lot of it and it's less useful for other stuff than iron.
Actually @I.F. Ister how much brass do we have? We have three sets of oni armor which should, conservatively, be maybe 200 lbs of armor per onigar, maybe more? How much we have is about to be relevant.
Last edited:
- Pronouns
- he/him
I used a small amount of it to make a little brass hammer icon for the ceremony. I don't think I'm getting it back. Judging by the big hole in the ground where it was
- Pronouns
- He/Him
That sort of thing seems fine, yeah. It's big projects I think we should all hold off on until our metal situation is better/more stable.
- Location
- Mid-Atlantic
I'm only now beginning to catch up with thread discussion due to a couple of busy days, but...
The consequences of playing around with a defaced set of runes that could theoretically have a changed meaning sound messily bad.
It's one thing if we're advising each other not to do things that get us killed. It's another matter entirely if we're advising each other on how to get the sweet without the bitter, as it were.
And...
Let's see. For Erik, there's an uncertain number of pest-repelling rune charms around his golden grass field, which he and his family keep regularly 'fed' and cared for. I wouldn't normally consider that abusive or disrespectful off the top of my head, and the runic tactical assault cabers.
I don't think he's done anything else with runes that I can remember.
May I ask if any of that seems to be 'disrespecting' runes?
Oh, I see. I see what you meant. Nevermind, sorry for pestering you.
steel Forged Iron, a durable hard-wearing iron-carbon alloy that is totally not Steel in NorseQuest, that's fine, just with the caveat that you're going to have a very bad day if you run up against Sven Can-Opener, the warrior strong enough to laugh that off.
A case of not trying to use runes to argue with the Norns about the 'plot' of the universe, one might say, by not throwing around "nuh-uh, I have immunity to X!"
Though honestly, I think we could avoid a lot of the problems by just not putting the word "all" in our rune descriptions. Like, when I wanted runic assault cabers to be effective, I didn't say "breaks ALL bone-men," because I figured that would be unreasonable.
Reworking some of that iron and brass we got from the Onigar into helmets would probably be a favorite. Helmets are usually one of the first pieces of armor a person gets if they can, because head injuries like concussions are nasty and can fuck you up even if you have a Norseman's absurd ability to recover from them fully and quickly. Sure, you'll be fine in a few minutes, but right now you can't see straight and you can't move right, so you're suddenly very vulnerable.
Nearly every warrior would want a helmet.
Nails and plowshares are a lot less demanding.
Frankly, I agree. The current 'meta' is very slanted in favor of whoever's confident enough to say "I craft myself a shitload of invincible runic wargear." At least, based on my perceptions as of when Sivantic posted this on Thursday.
I suspect that if you try to engrave practically microscopic runes on something, there are practical downsides. For instance, such small runes are going to be more vulnerable to scratches or abrasions.
The consequences of playing around with a defaced set of runes that could theoretically have a changed meaning sound messily bad.
Frankly, I think this is reasonable. It's contrary to the spirit of NorseQuest if the fucking around is not interrupted by finding out.While appreciate the offer of help, I was not asking for it to be easier for me.
I was asking for runes to be harder for you guys
I want to see people blow themselves up and this teamwork and proper scientific methodology is messing that up.
It's one thing if we're advising each other not to do things that get us killed. It's another matter entirely if we're advising each other on how to get the sweet without the bitter, as it were.
This.
Thank you for bringing this limitation to our attention- I'm sure there will be more, but as noted, I haven't been able to keep up lately. It's definitely valuable to have "easy come, easy go" effects on the kind of rune items we can make in a place like this where good materials are scarce.
And...
Oh. Wow.
Let's see. For Erik, there's an uncertain number of pest-repelling rune charms around his golden grass field, which he and his family keep regularly 'fed' and cared for. I wouldn't normally consider that abusive or disrespectful off the top of my head, and the runic tactical assault cabers.
I don't think he's done anything else with runes that I can remember.
May I ask if any of that seems to be 'disrespecting' runes?
Oh, I see. I see what you meant. Nevermind, sorry for pestering you.
I think I see. If you could somehow magic yourself up so your skin was as hard as
A case of not trying to use runes to argue with the Norns about the 'plot' of the universe, one might say, by not throwing around "nuh-uh, I have immunity to X!"
Though honestly, I think we could avoid a lot of the problems by just not putting the word "all" in our rune descriptions. Like, when I wanted runic assault cabers to be effective, I didn't say "breaks ALL bone-men," because I figured that would be unreasonable.
Yeah, well, remember what you said earlier about people having to figure shit out for themselves? I'm doing it as practice.
It's fairly likely that the bear hydra will be slain by a hunting party, and we have no provision for people owning LESS than a whole-ass square mile of land. Problematic.
Everybody and their cousin (well not my cousin since Bjorn the Boney makes everything out of bones for himself) is going to want metal farm tools and Erik Hardhead is no exception.
Reworking some of that iron and brass we got from the Onigar into helmets would probably be a favorite. Helmets are usually one of the first pieces of armor a person gets if they can, because head injuries like concussions are nasty and can fuck you up even if you have a Norseman's absurd ability to recover from them fully and quickly. Sure, you'll be fine in a few minutes, but right now you can't see straight and you can't move right, so you're suddenly very vulnerable.
Nearly every warrior would want a helmet.
That's also definitely true. A metal bow needs a fairly precise standard of metal quality and flexibility, because you can't just make an arbitrary iron bar and have it flex enough to be useful as a bow and arrow. Even an arrow needs to be long and slender and not brittle and so on.
Nails and plowshares are a lot less demanding.
Last edited:
Dread-Beasts Bestiary
I.F. Ister
Fortifying The Thread
- Pronouns
- He/They
No two Dread-Beasts are exactly alike, for the category of Dread-Beast exists to catalogue the powerful creatures that otherwise refuse to follow any sort of taxon. Each Dread-Beast exists in a category of its own, linked only by the lack of other kin-beasts.
Each Dread-Beast bears powers of its own, with differing appearances to all other Dread-Beasts. Some Dread-Beasts crawl, others fly, others yet still tunnel, yet all have features belonging only to them.
The origin of Dread-Beasts is a mystery lost to the ages. Beings of ages past, Dread-Beasts now lurk in the darkness, slumbering till woken. Dread-Beasts lack reproductive capabilities, so how Dread-Beasts come about is a mystery. Some Dread-Beasts lack any internal organs, merely being flesh all the way through. Others are entirely intestines from head to toe. Some have complete anatomy--though these still lack reproductive capability.
Dread-Beasts have never been seen eating or drinking, only ever sleeping and fighting. They are hostile to all beings that enter their sight--or other primary sensory organ--and will not rest until all they see is laid to waste.
Killing a Dread-Beast is a difficult task, but it can be done.
Each Dread-Beast bears powers of its own, with differing appearances to all other Dread-Beasts. Some Dread-Beasts crawl, others fly, others yet still tunnel, yet all have features belonging only to them.
The origin of Dread-Beasts is a mystery lost to the ages. Beings of ages past, Dread-Beasts now lurk in the darkness, slumbering till woken. Dread-Beasts lack reproductive capabilities, so how Dread-Beasts come about is a mystery. Some Dread-Beasts lack any internal organs, merely being flesh all the way through. Others are entirely intestines from head to toe. Some have complete anatomy--though these still lack reproductive capability.
Dread-Beasts have never been seen eating or drinking, only ever sleeping and fighting. They are hostile to all beings that enter their sight--or other primary sensory organ--and will not rest until all they see is laid to waste.
Killing a Dread-Beast is a difficult task, but it can be done.
- Location
- Mid-Atlantic
Hm. Since Void Eagles exist as multiples, and Gravity Tyrants appear to be a 'type' in that we've found the skulls of other specimens of the kind...
I infer that neither would count as a type of Dread-Beast?
I infer that neither would count as a type of Dread-Beast?
I.F. Ister
Fortifying The Thread
- Pronouns
- He/They
I posted this because one of the adventuring groups encountered a Dread-Beast and Dread-Beasts are a known thing all across Earth, so your characters would know of them.
- Location
- Mid-Atlantic
Gotcha. And that these are a distinct category of thing from the scary, paranormal predator species that are complete self-propagating species, such as the Time Gators, Gravity Tyrants, and Void Eagles. Makes sense.
- Location
- Goose Land
Yeah, ideally I want to bring in three Onigar full sets before thinking to ask for anything personally, as besides maybe armor Bjarneson doesn't strickly need basic gear at all due to Bone Projections, so anything that would actually be a proper upgrade would be stuff that would be fancily made by a proper Smith and then probably Runed on top of that.
Making sure that the community is properly supplied before thinking to ask after a project like that is just sense.
For now, I'll use my new Archery Pip to go into deeper detail about my Bone Bows
Aabcehmu
Confusion as a Natural State of Being
- Location
- Chicago, IL
- Pronouns
- Any/All
I've expanded my smithing passive action to include brass hinges, brass screws, brass buttons, brass clasps, possibly some brass wire, iron barrel bands, iron tools, and iron spear-, axe-, and arrow-heads.
Also @EclipsedStar I'm pinging you again to ask that you include a passive action to help me get Smargneisti situated in the forge in your action plan.
Also @EclipsedStar I'm pinging you again to ask that you include a passive action to help me get Smargneisti situated in the forge in your action plan.
@DeadmanwalkingXI so there's an empty hill tile next to me, I think that's what used to be Brynjar Bonespears Clan's land, before they all mysteriously vanished? Would it be too early for me to put a claim on it?
- Pronouns
- He/Him
Maybe a tad early, but probably fine since you've completed your Major. I'll pencil you in for the moment.
Any chance I could get a sword to use from my chariot? I get the feeling my Seax might be a bit too short to really stab anyone. You can use some of the bones from the Storm Toads I hunt for Bone Ash, if it helps?
Aabcehmu
Confusion as a Natural State of Being
- Location
- Chicago, IL
- Pronouns
- Any/All
Agmundr's standards for swords are quite high, and he is also a swordsman himself, so it's going to be a while before he's satisfied with his own work enough to tolerate giving other people his swords.
Fair, I suppose, I just don't have any particular skill with a spear, so using one of those against the Oni during the cattle raid feels kinda suboptimal.