Wait, we do? Who? There's Skuli, Steinarr, Harald, and Ragnarr and that's it as far as I know. Other people are doing supportive Minors but aren't on the team.

EDIT: Checking, we are indeed full. Okay then.
To be fair, as the expedition leader (and also the hersir), you'd be well within your rights to kick one of them out, if you'd rather have Bjornson along for the dig.
 
In rules terms, in any season where you do not gain more than the automatic Ordstirr gains from season end you may invest a Minor Action in learning Ordstirr Control. Alternatively, you may spend a Major Action to learn it, as that will obviously keep down your Ordstirr gain for that turn. Once learned, it must (and may) be maintained as a Minor Action every turn in which you do gain more than the minimum Ordstirr.
I think you mean after any season since it is only after a season ends that we find how much Ordstirr we gained. Especially since we would not have access to our passives and Major actions after we earn our Ordstirr until the following season.
 
Bjorn, wanting a small break from all the action so he is going to.

[X] Major Action Gather a meteric shit ton of wood. Bjorn is gonna make Paul Bunyan proud.

[X] Gather Tar

[X] Build some basic defenses around his home.

[X] Try to learn the native language

[X] Try to find out if there is any crop that can grow well in shitty soil AKA hills.
 
I think you mean after any season since it is only after a season ends that we find how much Ordstirr we gained. Especially since we would not have access to our passives and Major actions after we earn our Ordstirr until the following season.

The intent is that you can only do it with a Minor in the same season you earn no Ordstirr. Mostly, you'll need to do it as a Major and take boring Minors to ensure that. Its's not supposed to be an easy thing to do after a lean season, but something you have to plan a season around.

Like, if your Major action is pure research nobody else cares about, that's when you can maybe do Ordstirr Control training as a Minor.

[X] Major Action Gather a meteric shit ton of wood. Bjorn is gonna make Paul Bunyan proud.

You will probably deforest your property entirely and piss off the spirits. Which is fine, people have done that before, but just FYI.
 
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The intent is that you can only do it with a Minor in the same season you earn no Ordstirr. Mostly, you'll need to do it as a Major and take boring Minors to ensure that. Its's not supposed to be an easy thing to do after a lean season, but something you have to plan a season around.
So everyone can just toss it on to their plan on the off chance it triggers then?
 
So everyone can just toss it on to their plan on the off chance it triggers then?

In theory, sure. It's not gonna trigger often (and if it doesn't it does nothing) and I suspect IF would get annoyed by that if too many people did it too often, but if you actually think your Major will maybe net zero Ordstirr (and ditto your other Minors), you can throw it in.

If the spirits can't be bothered to ask him to stop then it's their own damn fault.

That's fair.
 
In theory, sure. It's not gonna trigger often (and if it doesn't it does nothing) and I suspect IF would get annoyed by that if too many people did it too often, but if you actually think your Major will maybe net zero Ordstirr (and ditto your other Minors), you can throw it in.
But in this case it is optimal to do that though. Wouldn't it be better to make it something like 'players who don't earn Ordstirr advance in Ordstirr control' or something?
 
But in this case it is optimal to do that though. Wouldn't it be better to make it something like 'players who don't earn Ordstirr advance in Ordstirr control' or something?

That seems reasonable, yeah. That said, the above is based on what IF said, so we'll need to ask him about that change when he wakes up. He may well go 'Sure.' but we can't exactly change the rules without him.
 
[X] Agnes Olsen
-[X] Major action: Weave and Embroider a coat for the Jarl, weaving Wards for protection, comfort, and self-repairing into it. Use personal dyes from Gotland.
-[X] Passive 01: check in the nearby jungle using Investigation and Wild Craft for bark, roots, and mushrooms to turn into dyes
-[X] Passive 02: Work on the red dye recipe.
-[X] Passive 03: Harvest enough of red and reddish-brown for a Tunic.
-[X] Passive 04: Spin the Flax from Harald to Linen, as per our agreement.(He gives me a third of the total)
-[X] Passive 05: Gather driftwood with Harald along the shore until I have enough to build a shrine.
-[X] Passive 06: Build a shrine to Catl-Ossi on my land using the building material I managed to obtain with Harald and from Moli.
-[X] Passive 07:Introduce my kids to Jöfling and visa versa. He is here in part of Catl-Ossi. These children are Mine.
-[X] Passive 08: Weave and Embroidery a tunic for Harald using my private store of linen. Use any dyes Agnes manages to gather, including any yellow dye that Harald managed to grow.
-[X] Passive 09: Continue to make Gambesons from the public stores.
-[X] Passive 10: Ask the seeress about the spirit trapped in blood.
-[X] Passive 11: Build a fence around my property, keeping in mind where I might have a ward built.
-[X] Passive 12: Practice Ordstirr control.

*Shrug* might as well toss them on.
 
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That seems reasonable, yeah. That said, the above is based on what IF said, so we'll need to ask him about that change when he wakes up. He may well go 'Sure.' but we can't exactly change the rules without him.
kind of diminishes the whole "i set out to gain a mastery of ordstirr" that the action suggests. also we need to know how it interacts with prestige. if i'm generating three prestige can i just not get it anymore?
 
kind of diminishes the whole "i set out to gain a mastery of ordstirr" that the action suggests.

Honestly, the 'contingency' version is probably never gonna come up. People who do, well, almost anything tend to gain Ordstirr, even if it's just a point or two. There are a handful of Major Actions that don't fall under that and can easily be combined with, like, meditating. But the alternative is probably it always being a Major Action, which is possible.

also we need to know how it interacts with prestige. if i'm generating three prestige can i just not get it anymore?

My impression is you can still get it. If end of season Ordstirr stopped it, nobody could ever get it. That stuff all kicks in at the end of the season, so you've had 6 months to train before that happens.
 
End-of-season ordstirr is why you need to devote a passive to maintaining your increased control every season, since it's going up every season and you need to devote at least a little bit of your time to adjusting to your new ordstirr-mass.
 
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PSA on Runes
When you write runes, something happens. This is known.
Just to be clear, is this something that happens for all things written in runes, or does it only happen if someone specifically goes out of their way to ensure that the runes will Do A Thing?

I know the Norse aren't a highly literate culture and wouldn't normally, say, write down a grocery list, but would one automatically be magically active if they did? Can the Norse, say, write stuff on a plaque without it causing weird paranormal effects?

edit: Damage Negation effects are also nid.
I'm a little confused by what this means. There may already be examples in the subsequent text (I have several pages of discussion to catch up on due to life happening), but if not, can someone provide a concrete example?

It's not fire clay in the sense of being magical. It's fire clay in the real world sense.
In fairness, there are multiple kinds of magically active clay in NorseQuest, and they get names like 'chilling clay.' So "fire clay" being a type of clay that is somehow connected to fire would just be consistence in nomenclature.

EDIT: Damn, oninja'd (that's an onigar ninja). I'll leave it up for the link.
Onigar Ninja: "Honestly, my people are actually very bad at stealth. It's just that to you guys, any attack that doesn't begin with the other side yelling "HEY, DUMBASS, I'M GOING TO KILL YOU!" counts as a sneak attack, so whatever lol."
 
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I'm a little confused by what this means. There may already be examples in the subsequent text (I have several pages of discussion to catch up on due to life happening), but if not, can someone provide a concrete example?
An armor piece with "My wearer never takes damage" would be nid because it removes any possibility of taking damage
 
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I'm a little confused by what this means. There may already be examples in the subsequent text (I have several pages of discussion to catch up on due to life happening), but if not, can someone provide a concrete example?
Taking no damage is bad. You can have damage resistance where you reduce the damage you receive, but still take some damage. That is acceptable.

So having resistance to fire damage is okay, but having immunity to fire damage is Nid. Mirroring damage back on an attacker is okay so long as you still take damage in the process, but transferring all of it to the attacker is Nid.
 
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Just to be clear, is this something that happens for all things written in runes, or does it only happen if someone specifically goes out of their way to ensure that the runes will Do A Thing?

I know the Norse aren't a highly literate culture and wouldn't normally, say, write down a grocery list, but would one automatically be magically active if they did? Can the Norse, say, write stuff on a plaque without it causing weird paranormal effects?

Magic effects from runes are only noticeable if the runes are carved into something and then filled with pigment like paint or blood. Nothing on paper would be measurably magical, not from the runes anyway.

I'm a little confused by what this means. There may already be examples in the subsequent text (I have several pages of discussion to catch up on due to life happening), but if not, can someone provide a concrete example?

Any rune that completely negates damage from an attack. You can mitigate or reduce, but a Rune that says "My wearer takes no damage when hit" is bad. Combat is risk, trying to cheat to remove those is bad.

In fairness, there are multiple kinds of magically active clay in NorseQuest, and they get names like 'chilling clay.' So "fire clay" being a type of clay that is somehow connected to fire would just be consistence in nomenclature.

Oh yeah, totally a reasonable theory, IF just confirmed otherwise in this case and I was passing that confirmation along.

Onigar Ninja: "Honestly, my people are actually very bad at stealth. It's just that to you guys, any attack that doesn't begin with the other side yelling "HEY, DUMBASS, I'M GOING TO KILL YOU!" counts as a sneak attack, so whatever lol."

IF on Discord said that onigar ninja primarily practiced the 'if everyone who saw me do it is dead, then it was sneaky' version of stealth. This may or may not have been a joke.
 
I know the Norse aren't a highly literate culture and wouldn't normally, say, write down a grocery list, but would one automatically be magically active if they did? Can the Norse, say, write stuff on a plaque without it causing weird paranormal effects?
I actually asked this earlier and did get an answer.
I wove the Law into a Tapestry using runes. There is no path for blood or any liquid to activate them and were not made to be used as magic. Would that cause issues?
Yeah, that's a-okay. As long as the runes aren't colored, nothing will happen.
So you could if you keep the writing utterly mundane I imagine.
 
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