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NorseQuest (A Norse Xianxia)

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Constenanto said:
Huh, I wonder if dark spirits can invade your Soulspace whenever we cultivate odr during the opening of the Gate? Is it just that we're really weak right now, so nothing has bothered to pay attention to us?
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I think evidence suggests dark spirits can invade you even if you don't practice Odr cultivation at all. That's what happened to Stigr, after all. I don't think Odr Cultivation alone protects from that very well...but a fence might well.
 
DeadmanwalkingXI said:
I think evidence suggests dark spirits can invade you even if you don't practice Odr cultivation at all. That's what happened to Stigr, after all. I don't think Odr Cultivation alone protects from that very well...but a fence might well.
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I mean, Stigr got affected by a dark spirit because Horra took advantage of his father's death to slip a spirit - I think? Not actually 100% on that, might be making that up lmao - but I mean a dark spirit invading our Soulspace. Not possessing us/haunting us.

Imperial Fister said:
"A predator of the Dark Forest, of the realm of spirits. It was agitated by something or, rather," her eyes burn with the gleam of knowledge, "someone."

"Horra," you snarl, eyes blazing with swiftly growing fury.
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Yeah, I was right.
 
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Constenanto said:
I mean, Stigr got affected by a dark spirit because Horra took advantage of his father's death to slip a spirit - I think? Not actually 100% on that, might be making that up lmao - but I mean a dark spirit invading our Soulspace. Not possessing us/haunting us.
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I'm not sure there's a difference between those things. Like, I think that invading a soulspace is what lets a spirit possess or haunt someone. The fact that most people are unaware of their soulspace doesn't mean it doesn't exist, after all.

And the Horra thing was always speculative, though plausible. Things like that do happen 'naturally' around the Hading, so it's not a sure thing, just a possibility.
 
Yeah though, even if a Fence's only application would be "Keeps Dark Forces out", that's still worth pushing.

Modgudr was probably trying to give us a roundabout Hint, incidentally. She did effectively tell Halla ICly that at some point in Odr Cultivation, you're planting a Tree after all.
DeadmanwalkingXI said:
I'm not sure there's a difference between those things. Like, I think that invading a soulspace is what lets a spirit possess or haunt someone. The fact that most people are unaware of their soulspace doesn't mean it doesn't exist, after all.

And the Horra thing was always speculative, though plausible. Things like that do happen 'naturally' around the Hading, so it's not a sure thing, just a possibility.
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There is actually a Soulspace even without Odr, it's just Empty.
 
Alectai said:
Then Realm 3 will probably be the planting of your World Tree once you've got enough Life running around to justify it.
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I would love this specifically if it means that Halla has to try and coax a squirrel into living in her soul somehow.

Abjorn just looking incredibly confused and trying to work out why Halla is carefully placing a long trail of hazelnuts in a runic pattern.
 
DeadmanwalkingXI said:
I'm not sure there's a difference between those things. Like, I think that invading a soulspace is what lets a spirit possess or haunt someone. The fact that most people are unaware of their soulspace doesn't mean it doesn't exist, after all.

And the Horra thing was always speculative, though plausible. Things like that do happen 'naturally' around the Hading, so it's not a sure thing, just a possibility.
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I added in the quote that supports Horra agitating the dark spirit that haunted Stigr. I mean, it's no outright confirmation, but given that an experienced Seeress told us that, I'm inclined to believe her.

Also, fair enough about the Soulscape, I guess. There's not much I can say to refute it, and I don't disagree with you either.
 
The fence feels like the Norse version of refining impure ki, though in this case it's more domestication of wild energy fit for more personal human consumption.
 
Imperial Fister said:
More or less, yeah. A Norsewoman is going to have some measure of skill in Glima, but that's the only thing I might mention.

I do like my word play
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Hah!

Nice!

So, I think we've gotten the broad outline of Realm 1 finally mapped out!

1) Clear the Fields, Till the Land
2) Build a Home and the Tools for your craft
3) Build a Fence to keep out pests and threats
4) Fill the Well to bursting.

PRIMARY LANDMINE: Completing Realm 1 sends out a beacon visible through the Dark Forest, without suitable protections, you'll be devoured or destroyed by the tide of monsters that are either hungering for the wealth of Power you've accumulated, or who fear potential competitors.

...

Wait a sec.

Is that actually the 'Heavenly Tribulation' to enter Realm 2?

A big-ass Tower Defense mission?
 
Imperial Fister said:
More or less, yeah. A Norsewoman is going to have some measure of skill in Glima, but that's the only thing I might mention.
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Noted. Edited and clarified that their combat skills will always include Glima.

Alectai said:
A big-ass Tower Defense mission?
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That seems very plausible and very Norse, yeah. Definitely makes me want to prep even more before we do it, though we'll probably be fine.

Constenanto said:
Uh, we don't actually have any fields right now. I believe we need to arrange our current plants into fields, rather than clearing them?
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I mean, we're not gonna uproot the magic ones, but other than that some clearing is probably needed in order to make proper fields.
 
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Well, the good news is that if it's based on having 81 Odr, we can put it off for a good long while to prepare.

Though we shouldn't wait too long. We'll be in good stead if we can have up to Realm 3 mapped out before Halla dies.

I imagine the real Grind in Saga Establishment is the Fence and the Household though. The stronger they are when you break through, the easier your breakthrough and probably the more benefits you get from them while your Well is overflowing in that period.
 
Simon_Jester said:
Understood. This quest is very popular and advances fast, so explicitly spelling out important things to avoid misunderstandings is worthwhile.
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Oh boy, now I can put this one my resume ;P

0~0~0

Alright, voting is now closed
Scheduled vote count started by Imperial Fister on Jun 16, 2023 at 8:29 PM, finished with 142 posts and 19 votes.
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Also Steelfathers can use odr. Which is pretty crazy, lmao. I guess the main problem with Steelfathers is probably how they affect the world with the Steel that's in their bodies. I wouldn't be surprised if Steel does affect their cultivation either, but apparently not enough to prevent them from using odr to begin with.
 
Alectai said:
1) We can look into setting up a better site, with the place we go to.
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The first step with this, i think, would be to figure out what makes a cultivation site different from a random patch in the world.

we know wild places make better ones, but thats about it.
DeadmanwalkingXI said:
The perfect is the enemy of the good, sure, but I'm suggesting waiting one turn. That's really not that long. I'm also not sure the fence is going to do anything obvious...indeed, I'd be inclined to say that until and unless our soulscape comes under attack it will do nothing at all. Fields now, those might do something more overt...
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just to note, but while fences make keeping out unwanted things is easier, their main advantage is the clear marking of a territory, not its defense. Defense would be the job of walls.

"hey, Blackhand, what do you know of the Dark Forest?
Also, what happens if you make either weapons or tools out of steel from a steel father? Steel can not be destroyed... but changing its form is different story, after all..."
 
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TheCount said:
The first step with this, i think, would be to figure out what makes a cultivation site different from a random patch in the world.

we know wild places make better ones, but thats about it.
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We know that we cultivate on a special type of stone, along with a tree above it - although I'm not actually sure it requires a specific tree. I agree that we should probably explore what exactly makes it different.
 
Alectai said:
Well, the good news is that if it's based on having 81 Odr, we can put it off for a good long while to prepare.

Though we shouldn't wait too long. We'll be in good stead if we can have up to Realm 3 mapped out before Halla dies.

I imagine the real Grind in Saga Establishment is the Fence and the Household though. The stronger they are when you break through, the easier your breakthrough and probably the more benefits you get from them while your Well is overflowing in that period.
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Yeah. Personally, I'm thinking sometime in the next three years, but definitely not this year (we could do it in theory but we'd have to really rush, which seems very risky), which means not next year either since we'll almost certainly spend the whole year pregnant (and we don't want to do the actual advancement mid-pregnancy). So, like, two years from now at the earliest.

Constenanto said:
We know that we cultivate on a special type of stone, along with a tree above it - although I'm not actually sure it requires a specific tree. I agree that we should probably explore what exactly makes it different.
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Agreed. I'm hoping we can get what info the dwarves have on the process, or at least their own site, as part of helping them.
 
DeadmanwalkingXI said:
which means not next year either since we'll almost certainly spend the whole year pregnant (and we don't want to do the actual advancement mid-pregnancy). So, like, two years from now at the earliest.
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Uh, avoiding work on our Soulscape because of the assumption we'll get pregnant doesn't seem right? We're not actually pregnant right now, right? And there's nothing stopping us from working on the walls, fields and buildings right now? Unless you mean actually advancing, and not just working on the requirements - if so, my bad.
 
Constenanto said:
Uh, avoiding work on our Soulscape because of the assumption we'll get pregnant doesn't seem right? We're not actually pregnant right now, right? And there's nothing stopping us from working on the walls, fields and buildings right now? Unless you mean actually advancing, and not just working on the requirements - if so, my bad.
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I meant purely actually advancing. I was saying we had at least two years to work on the soulscape, to give us a sort of 'minimum time frame'. I agree entirely that nothing about being pregnant keeps us from continuing the work on the soulscape, we just probably don't want to take the huge risk of actually advancing while pregnant, and won't be ready to try before we're almost certain to become pregnant, IMO.

And nah, it's probably my bad, looking back on it, I can see how my wording could be confusing.
 
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'Hey, Blackhand, do you know how to enter the Dark Forest?'

Also, if the system that Deadman made for farming is going to be used, could it be added to the mechanics infopost on the first page?

One more thing - would it be nid/odrengskapr to take an enemy Norseman's body and use their bone ash for crafting?
 
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