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NorseQuest (A Norse Xianxia)

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Mmm, maybe.

Still, look guys, I just think having Sword Magic would be really cool, you know? And with a Sword being one of the traditional Hero's Rewards, that Swords are apparently really compatible with Orthstirr use, and all the other Sword hype that's been coming up, I just want to see what it can do, you know? I want to be moved by that absolutely legendary sword technique we just witnessed.

Standstill is great when it applies, and Halting Vortex has come in clutch more than its own fair share, but it doesn't win fights on its own.
 
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Oh, I'm very interested in a Sword hugareida.

Freyr had a sword that could fight on its own, for what it's worth (and I think some saga hero had arrows that would obey commands). Might be possible to rune up something like that if we wanted to keep using Sagaseeker and a sword and keep a hand free for hugareida use.
 
Alectai said:
Mmm, maybe.

Still, look guys, I just think having Sword Magic would be really cool, you know? And with a Sword being one of the traditional Hero's Rewards, that Swords are apparently really compatible with Orthstirr use, and all the other Sword hype that's been coming up, I just want to see what it can do, you know?
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Hel, man, I agree with you. It might not be optimal, but it's certainly not a bad choice. And a Sword hugareida is definitely enough incentive for me to switch over to using a sword. They're really cool. I don't doubt that a Sword hugareida isn't rare, given how this is the first we've heard of it, and no other encounters with a sword wielding person has yielded it.

By the way...

@Imperial Fister, could we take inspiration from the Threaded Man we fought, and use Shapeshifting to gain stretchy arms?
 
Not just no other encounters with sword wielding people, but we've never even seen anyone with a Sword Hugareida period, even other Sword wielders.

We didn't even know it was a thing.
 
Alectai said:
Is that true @Imperial Fister ?
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You don't need a sword to use Sword Hugareida, by the way.
Constenanto said:
@Imperial Fister, could we take inspiration from the Threaded Man we fought, and use Shapeshifting to gain stretchy arms?
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Sure.
Constenanto said:
'Hey, Blackhand, what are the benefits of a Sword hugareida? Is it particularly rare?'
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'Weapon hugareida are typically only acquired through mastery of a weapon. And given that most Norsemen don't have the time to truly master a weapon, it's not an especially common thing.

Weapon hugareida allow you to use that weapon without it being in your hand, more or less.'
 
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Imperial Fister said:
You don't need a sword to use Sword Hugareida, by the way.

Sure.
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Nice Okay, yeah, that makes it even more appealing.

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On a related note , @Imperial Fister , how many people got Muna (Or in the case of Gabriel, something similar) after watching that last series of attacks?

The ship-throwing looks like a very high level application of Leverage for instance, which might have helped Abjorn, while Halla effectively erupted with the force of a falling star with WEAPON. And then there was Steinarr's all of his bullshit
 
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Funnily enough, I'm pretty sure the ship-throwing is because Twoshields watched Hallr throw a ship to Persia, way back when. At least, I can't imagine sources for ship-throwing muna come up all that often.
 
Alectai said:
Mmm, maybe.

Still, look guys, I just think having Sword Magic would be really cool, you know? And with a Sword being one of the traditional Hero's Rewards, that Swords are apparently really compatible with Orthstirr use, and all the other Sword hype that's been coming up, I just want to see what it can do, you know?
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Swords make you gain more Orthstirr while using them...that's not quite the same thing. I'm not inherently against a Sword Hugareida, but let's be clear what swords are and what they do.

Alectai said:
Standstill is great when it applies, and Halting Vortex has come in clutch more than its own fair share, but it doesn't win fights on its own.
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IAT has absolutely won fights pretty much on its own. Or as 'on its own' as a Sword Hugareida is likely to, anyway.

Imperial Fister said:
You don't need a sword to use Sword Hugareida, by the way.
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@Imperial Fister
So...how does a Sword Hugareida work then, conceptually? It can't just be 'superhuman swordsmanship' because, uh, that's just Tricks in general. Are there Hugareida for other weapons or is 'Sword' just the 'weapon' Hugareida?

Like, Sword Hugareida sounds cool but I'm having a hard time visualizing what we'd actually do with it?

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Imperial Fister said:
'Weapon hugareida are typically only acquired through mastery of a weapon. And given that most Norsemen don't have the time to truly master a weapon, it's not an especially common thing.

Weapon hugareida allow you to use that weapon without it being in your hand, more or less.'
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Huh. Yeah, okay, that's pretty neat...we go with learning to make a sword, make one, replace our basic Sax, and add it as a backup weapon wielding it with the Hugareida...that does sound neat.
 
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Imperial Fister said:
Most people, though that doesn't directly translate to hugareida acquisition, of course.

Edited it into my previous post.
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Hah, nice.

Who did get Hugareida out of it then? Abjorn certainly, right?

EDIT: Maybe stuff like Freyr's self-wielding sword? Or possibly just applying 'Sword' traits to other weapons? Which would let us get the best of both worlds. It also looks super compatible with Alloys in general.

And of course, the ever classic "Use two fingers as a Sword" meme
 
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DeadmanwalkingXI said:
So...how does a Sword Hugareida work then, conceptually? It can't just be 'superhuman swordsmanship' because, uh, that's just Tricks in general. Are then Hugareida for other weapons or is 'Sword' just the 'weapon' Hugareida?

Like, Sword Hugareida sounds cool but I'm having a hard time visualizing what we'd actually do with it?
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We can use a sword without actually owning one. I assume it lets us do some hand-sword shit, or it summons a sword for us.

@Imperial Fister - 'Hey, Blackhand? Would using a Sword hugareida still award us extra orthstirr?'
 
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The ship throwing thing is just an application of high hamr.
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@Imperial Fister
So...how does a Sword Hugareida work then, conceptually? It can't just be 'superhuman swordsmanship' because, uh, that's just Tricks in general. Are there Hugareida for other weapons or is 'Sword' just the 'weapon' Hugareida?
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Magic phantom weapons is what weapon hugareida essentially are.
 
So...how does a Sword Hugareida work then, conceptually? It can't just be 'superhuman swordsmanship' because, uh, that's just Tricks in general. Are there Hugareida for other weapons or is 'Sword' just the 'weapon' Hugareida?

Like, Sword Hugareida sounds cool but I'm having a hard time visualizing what we'd actually do with it?
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Imperial Fister said:
The ship throwing thing is just an application of high hamr.

Magic phantom weapons is what weapon hugareida essentially are.
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Okay, yeah, that's good then.

Is it also capable of doing straight up "Use unlikely things as Swords" too? Like the old two-finger trick? Or letting us treat Sagaseeker as one? Or would those be more Alloy applications?
 
Alright, I'm convinced.

[X] Upgrade Ignition
[X] Muna: Steinarr's Sword (Unlock Sword Hugareida)

We should get a sword to go with this, but no need to have it be our primary weapon. I already had us learning to make them penciled in (3 turns of training and there we are) and we can, as I said above, replace our Good Sax with one pretty easily as a backup weapon (or for, like, duels).

And while I love Standstill upgrading Ignition is better because we roll it a lot more and it upgrades Forgefire automatically and instantly, which is sweet.

Constenanto said:
To be honest, I was just asking because aesthetically, wielding a sword and an atgeir seems like a weird combo. To me, at least.
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Having a sword as a backup weapon instead of one of our saxes seems fine to me aesthetically.
 
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Also, I'm not so convinced on Steinarr being worse at the sword than he is with Wildfire... he's apparently good enough to grant a Sword hugareida to other people - the hugareida that's usually only gained from mastery of the sword. That's crazy. He most likely has a Sword hugareida, too. I wouldn't be surprised if he has a secondary kenning related to a sword, and instead just used Freedfire as his main one. We know that people can have multiple kennings, after all.
 
Constenanto said:
Also, I'm not so convinced on Steinarr being worse at the sword than he is with Wildfire... he's apparently good enough to grant a Sword hugareida to other people - the hugareida that's usually only gained from mastery of the sword. That's crazy. He most likely has a Sword hugareida, too. I wouldn't be surprised if he has a secondary kenning related to a sword, and instead just used Freedfire as his main one. We know that people can have multiple kennings, after all.
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That's possible, though it brings up the question of why he isn't using that one. There are potential reasons, but it's an interesting question.
 
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