wow, i did not expect this.
now, on to the comments!
Hardir clears his throat after adding his blood to the Oathring. "Veny, as my father-in-law said — " Harald has to visibly stifle a scoff at that — "has the gift of Shroudsight and, with said gift, she saw the fylgja of Halla Longstride spying on my father-in-law's home under a magical shroud."
hm... interesting, guess she could also track the Fyjhla back to Halla?
guess we will see how this plays out...
Blackhand helpfully takes the time to explain as Hardir makes his oaths. 'Shroudsight is one of several ways that Seeing Eyes can develop. It allows the holder to See through disguises and magical shrouds, like your Hidden in Rags.'
oh, neat. more safety options for the kids! Also...
"Hey, Blackhand, what types of developments do you know of the Seeing Eyes?and how many can be had by the same person? Also, can they be helped in developing or its up to the person?"
A collective gasp slips from the wide-eyed faces of the judges and audience alike as you raise the Scorn-Pole high above your head. Curiously, Horra's eyes show no signs of recognition as his brows furrow into a deep valley — he's as confused as you're feeling now.
huh... could it have been one of his sons?
Horra's eye twitches violently as his son's brows furrow in confusion. You get the impression that he either wasn't aware of the horse-siring or the Scorn-Pole being raised — maybe even both! But, by the looks of things, neither was Hasvir.
Yeah, i am calling bullshit! No was Hasvir wouldn't know the racing. His horse might have been sired by one of his siblings though.
'I... did not see that one coming.'
neither did we, Hallr, neither did we.....
Hasvir takes to the stand, his head already shaking as he makes his denials. "I swear on the name I bear that I have never even touched Stronghoof, let alone brought him out to horse fights. I hate horses, can't stand the things. Whoever did this could not have been me."
BULLSHITT!!!!
Nothing happens as he speaks, no oaths have been broken. Whether that's because he's telling the truth or because he's snaked his way through you don't know.
wha...
Why would he bring it to the race then?
You're on the offensive right now, initiative is yours. Horra is planning on counterattacking with how he and his had nothing to do with the Scorn-Pole. Afterwards, he'll move into reiterating that, despite appearances, you are not above using underhanded tactics.
hpf, good luck with that.
Also, this is confirmation that Seersight and its siblings are legal evidence as long as a woman possessing it has a man to represent her in court.
oh, could WE testify for the seer then? Sure, not a man, but we are standing as our own in a legal battle, which is only possibly because of the warrior-woman thing.
Yep. Victory is not in overpowering a foe, it's ensuring that they have no move that doesn't play into your hands.
Just like the enemy, huh? :V
Joke aside, we should learn and use one enemy's trick against others if we can, keeps the guessing game interesting!
'You should be proud,' Blackhand's normally surreal nonchalance provides a rock to lean on, 'Not many people can even blink let alone breathe after getting hit with that much weight at once, not if it's their first time experiencing it. Look at how everyone else is reacting, that will tell you much. Not as much as their Aspects, but a great deal more than appearances alone.'
I wante to ask what this is and how we can get it from blackhand, but Shard already beat me to it.
The Headsman looks more annoyed than anything else, though his eldest is focused entirely on keeping his breathing level. Folkmarr had been taking a drink when Logi threw his weight around and is currently on the floor, sputtering like a dying fish.
heh, comedic relief!
Audrikr is furious, his coldly burning eyes darting from your gasping form to the other young people in attendance. Few are faring nearly as well as you are. Abjorn was knocked unconscious and his eyelids are fluttering back to life. Hasvir's stood as still as a statue, not a part of him moving.

You scoff, happy that you're doing better than he is. That cocky grin fades as you realize that he's not moving at all. As in, you can't see the subtle rise and fall of his chest, the thing that indicates that one's heart is working.
...did we just made an enemy by being better than the many of the man in attendance or.... something else?
huh, guess he got frightened to death?
It's just your heart stopping, stupid thing.

A swift blow to your chest solves that — though you do have to crack a few ribs in the process. No biggie, a small price to not be numb all over.
oh.... we were as well.
Lmao.
All at once, his entire body pops like a soap bubble before falling in on itself. There's nothing left but a puddle of gunk and meat on the ground.
uhm... i am sure this should have not happened, even with a true death, so, what the fuck?
Before you're given a chance to do anything at all to defend yourself — which would've amounted to Standstill most likely, given your lack of any real armaments — an arcing crescent of hardened fire carves through the air and lops both of Horra's hands off at the wrist.
huh... neat.
Audrikr is the one who gives the sentence. "Horra Hasvisson, for the crime of breaking the peace of the Thing, you have been sentenced with a three year lesser outlawing. Pick three locations, these shall be your places of immunity for the first year. After that, you are on your own. Your lands will be returned to you if you return alive and, if not, will be inherited in accordance with your will."
...Uhm... Mission failed successfully?
Horra's barely moving as he kneels in his own blood, his wet eyes locked to the puddle of once-son.
There could be a joke in that, but well, he definitelly got a Muna from this.
[ ] Muna: Horra on Trial (Gives a passive resistance to Weight)
Yeah, passive defenses are great, so, lets take this.
How the hell did Horra not know is own son was really a fleshpuppet, though?

Just what kind of fuckery is going on here?
This is especially interesting what with her daughter having shroud sight to see through illusions and disguises.
So, when did this happen?
Get the guy with the dead brother involved, get the Elephant merchant involved, then get our murderball to raid Horra's Sanctum and burn it to the ground? If he's there? Bonus! If not, well, we've cost him the center of his power and his army of Draugr.
Wouldn't it be enough to just tell it to the headmaster? Like, we did the after action report with the twins and such?
Screw it, you can have 4 free extra actions.
Quick! He let his defense down! Amass personal power now! :V
Joke aside, very generous of you! Thank you!
-[X] (Crafting) Try to make something
why spend an action on making a rune for this when the Seeress is here though?
--[X] Haklangr's Brother

--[X] The Elephant Merchant
...Again, wouldn't it be enough to give a group briefing to them with the headsman?
I don't think I did?

Like, you guys triggered a hidden, secret possibility (that, for the record, would've happened had you mentioned Drysalt at any time around someone with roots in the Valley/Asvir, it just so worked out in this way for the trial.)
oh... interesting.... Was Aki this much out of the loop or its something else?
He is allowed to travel on the roads as long as he moves a spear's length away when encountering travelers. None of the locations can be more than a bow's shot away from each other(which, to be fair, is not a rule that was accounting for cultivation shenanigans, so we'll say an orthstirr-less bowshot.)

They are a campsite in the hills, a fishing shack in the woods, and a rain shelter on the road to Asvir.
Does the bow also need to be unenchanted with runes? or is that fair game?
No, but I'll tell you.

He's sitting pretty at 30-ish
wow.
So, he comes through when he is needed, but is the last person you want to deal with, huh?
Having higher odrengskapr means that people will be more inclined towards trying to hinder you or even may straight up try to kill you.
...was someone from his family trying to clean house?

[X] Muna: Horra on Trial (Gives a passive resistance to Weight)
[X] Plan Dealing With Fallout
 
Just thought of something hilarious: are Horra's memory-schenanigans something that reasserts itself after a time limit, or is it something he actively has to reverse? Because he may just be stuck in a "Pickle Rick" situation, where his intended antidote that was back in his home/sanctum is suddenly no longer available to him, and now all of the forbidden knowledge and schemes he had cooked up for contingencies are simply lost to him.

I don't think there actually was any memory stuff going on. It was a valid theory, but the actual weirdness it was suggested to explain is explained by Hasvir being an impostor.

why spend an action on making a rune for this when the Seeress is here though?

There's no evidence she can actually solve this problem, and I'm not sure she's in the room, but it'd be worth a try if we had the spare action.

...Again, wouldn't it be enough to give a group briefing to them with the headsman?

If that's an available option, sure. Though he did give us 4 free actions to talk to people, so I feel greedy asking.

@Imperial Fister how many people can we talk to with one action, and is the Seeress there in the room right now? Any answer is fine, just looking for clarification here.
 
It's tempting, but we actually don't know that. Drysalt told the troll how to contact Horra, but that might've been through methods Horra wasn't even aware of. He seemed as surprised by that revelation as anyone.

True but somewhat irrelevant, we don't have to say we know for sure, just that the troll said Drysalt put him in contact with the man and then the troll went to Horra, let Logi draw the conclusion himself, judging by his reaction he may trounce Horra just on the off chance he does know, and I suspect there wouldn't be much left of the outlaw afterwards, Logi has no incentive to be nice about it after all.

Having written that out though l could see how people might not like the chance element but for Myself l don't see it being very high that nothing happens.

I just think we need to get onto killing Horra soon, the man has no hands for the moment and is outlawed so no one will help him put them back on, so the sooner we get to that the weaker he is and the more likely we can get something out of him before Steinarr guts him.
 
Logi Firehair is a powerfully built man with thick arms crossed and legs spread wide. Shining silver eyes dart to and fro, determining the level of threat each and every person poses. Not only is his hair as red as yours, but tiny tongues of flame burn harmlessly at the ends.
damn, silver eyes, not steel. guess he isn't one of our relatives then, huh?
"Hey, blackhand, What was that hardened fire trick Logi did? and what type of Hugreida would we need to do so?
Also.... how good is it, compared to normal weapons?
Also, any idea on that... thing, that was playing at being Hasvir?"
 
There's no evidence she can actually solve this problem, and I'm not sure she's in the room, but it'd be worth a try if we had the spare action.
...if the Seerees can't solve Wolfwind's problem, IF it is a problem to begin with, i doubt we could do it, tbh. Her Hugr must be far greater than ours, what with Seidr being her bread and butter, not to mention being the one to teach Hallr too.
 
You know, we don't have to reveal the Sanctum. We're a runecrafter, and we want to learn seidr. We could go there and loot it, learn what we can and kill the Draugr ourselves (assuming they're still there and inactive, and not currently roaming the road between home and town, anyways).
 
...if the Seerees can't solve Wolfwind's problem, IF it is a problem to begin with, i doubt we could do it, tbh. Her Hugr must be far greater than ours, what with Seidr being her bread and butter, not to mention being the one to teach Hallr too.

Fair. If she's in the room I'll edit appropriately.

You know, we don't have to reveal the Sanctum. We're a runecrafter, and we want to learn seidr. We could go there and loot it, learn what we can and kill the Draugr ourselves (assuming they're still there and inactive, and not currently roaming the road between home and town, anyways).

We could, but I'd rather utterly ruin Horra's rep and open his family to lawsuits, while making sure we have appropriate backup for the draugr extermination just in case.
 
I went to sleep... and came back to absolute chaos.

How deep does this damn mystery go? My head...

[X] Muna: Horra on Trial (Gives a passive resistance to Weight)

[X] Plan Dealing With Fallout
 
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One more thing for the Muna:
We can earn Hamingja more easily than Munas. Hel, the offering to the gods option in winter gives one permanently, and hanging out with lucky people too.
Edit: Also, passive defenses are great, especially against things we shouldn't have, like this weight resistance.
 
Blackhand,

Can we get Seeing Eyes for ourselves?
'It is an innate talent, not something that one can acquire. Such is life.

As for your Weight question. Weight is how heavy you are on the strings of the Nornir. It is how much weight you have to throw around. You have Weight. I have Weight. Flekkr has Weight. It is simply a fact of life that the more of anything you become, the more Weight you attain.

And back to the Seersight topic; there are a multitude of Seersight variations. A seer can only have one variant of Seersight. It is not something that can be changed or gained. The Seeress has Scrysight. Aki has Soulsight. Some seers have Soonsight, some have Sundersight, and some have Slipsight or even Shroudsight.'

Joke aside, very generous of you! Thank you!
I know that this was a bet of a let down update, so I figured that I might as well soften the blow a little bit. I don't particularly want to pull fucky wucky stuff like this, but it's the bed I've made for myself, so it's the bed I'm laying in. (One of the major reasons I decided to run this Quest at all was to break a particularly bad habit of mine, that of being scared to have consequences happen... thank you a lot, first dnd experience I had)

But hey, the final kill is still on the table!
@Imperial Fister how many people can we talk to with one action, and is the Seeress there in the room right now? Any answer is fine, just looking for clarification here.
Well, I gave you four free actions because that's how many people I figured you were going to go talk to here (if not, I can bump it up). The Seeress is here, currently emerging from having taken cover.
oh... interesting.... Was Aki this much out of the loop or its something else?
Aki's not native to the region either, iirc.

In fact, none of the people in your immediate group of comrades are.
...did we just made an enemy by being better than the many of the man in attendance or.... something else?
Audrikr is mad at Logi for just throwing his weight around like that. He's your friend, after all.
 
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But he didn't get away, that's the thing. He's still outlawed. A lesser outlawing, sure, but an outlawing nonetheless.

I didn't say he got away with everything, just the worst things he did. And it happened only becasue Logi interrupted the trial.

If we reveal Horra other crimes, will the Headsman be angry at Logi for interrupting the trial? Since he indirectly allowed Horra to get a lesser punsihment for his crimes?

All Norsemen are Cultivators.

I mean, most women don't seem to be. If a woman was present and she died becasue of Logi Weight what would have happened? Would he be charged with murder on sacred ground?

You are 100% right. It is stupid.

You wanna know what else it is?

Realistic.

Who the hell is gonna vote to outlaw Logi fucking Firehair?

Personal friend of the Headsman and extremely powerful cultivator?

The guy who can and will go burn your house down with you and your family inside it?

Nobody. Nobody without a death wish.

I understand what your intention was.

You wanted to make Logi look badass and dangerous, but honestly the entire thing made him look pretty dumb.

He has so little control of his emotions that just mentioning Drysalt name makes him have a tantrum.

He dosen't look badass like this, he looks childish. Like somebody that is strong but easy to manipulate since he dosen't think before acting.

After reading this i am not scared of his power, i am thinking that he would be easy to outsmart.

He looks like Kylo Ren.
 
I didn't say he got away with everything, just the worst things he did. And it happened only becasue Logi interrupted the trial.

If we reveal Horra other crimes, will the Headsman be angry at Logi for interrupting the trial? Since he indirectly allowed Horra to get a lesser punsihment for his crimes?



I mean, most women don't seem to be. If a woman was present and she died becasue of Logi Weight what would have happened? Would he be charged with murder on sacred ground?



I understand what your intention was.

You wanted to make Logi look badass and dangerous, but honestly the entire thing made him look pretty dumb.

He has so little control of his emotions that just mentioning Drysalt name makes him have a tantrum.

He dosen't look badass like this, he looks childish. Like somebody that is strong but easy to manipulate since he dosen't think before acting.

After reading this i am not scared of his power, i am thinking that he would be easy to outsmart.

He looks like Kylo Ren.
More likely, Drysalt is just that dangerous. Horra is small potatoes compared to, say, a troll warlord who's attacked the region in the past, or whatever Drysalt might be.
 
Well, I gave you four free actions because that's how many people I figured you were going to go talk to here (if not, I can bump it up). The Seeress is here, currently emerging from having taken cover.

Fair. I combined a few things and didn't combine others. The basic stuff we're doing is:

#1: Trying to free Wolfwind (this involves Wolfwind and the Seeress, and must be done immediately)
#2: Talk to the Headman and Logi and tell them what's going on with the Draugr and the Drysalt connection. Hopefully get them on board for some draugr-killing.
#3: Talk to other people about Draugr-killing. Particularly, Haklangr's Brother, the Elephant Merchant, and (upon reflection) inviting Audrikr and Folkmarr along if they so desire (since it might be exciting and we'd like them to see).

Plus the actual attack on the sanctum and a crafting action.

I didn't say he got away with everything, just the worst things he did. And it happened only becasue Logi interrupted the trial.

If we reveal Horra other crimes, will the Headsman be angry at Logi for interrupting the trial? Since he indirectly allowed Horra to get a lesser punsihment for his crimes?

I mean, outlawing is a death sentence for the most part. All I'd think it would likely incline him to do is maybe suggest Logi make sure he doesn't survive his period of outlawing.

I mean, most women don't seem to be. If a woman was present and she died becasue of Logi Weight what would have happened? Would he be charged with murder on sacred ground?

If anyone brought charges to the Jarl, sure. Though I'm not sure if Weight works that way.

I understand what your intention was.

You wanted to make Logi look badass and dangerous, but honestly the entire thing made him look pretty dumb.

He has so little control of his emotions that just mentioning Drysalt name makes him have a tantrum.

He dosen't look badass like this, he looks childish. Like somebody that is strong but easy to manipulate since he dosen't think before acting.

After reading this i am not scared of his power, i am thinking that he would be easy to outsmart.

He looks like Kylo Ren.

Eh. He's not the leader here, he's the enforcer. A thug. Him having a hell of a temper doesn't strike me as weird or inappropriate? And especially with the fire thing. We know Steinarr gave up the Freedfire Kenning for reasons of emotional stability and I doubt Firehair is a lot better.

Like, I don't see that him coming off as out of control is either bad or unintentional. He was out of control.
 
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One more thing for the Muna:
We can earn Hamingja more easily than Munas. Hel, the offering to the gods option in winter gives one permanently, and hanging out with lucky people too.

Can we? We've earned several Muna in the last year from battle and spars and so on and zero Hamingja. Meanwhile, the Management System is still down and thus so is sacrificing for Hamingja, while when it was up, it was rapidly escalating in price to the point where we weren't going to be able to pay it too much longer. That could change, but I wouldn't count on the second part doing so.

Also, Hamingja stacks. However easy it is to get, it will still be just as easy if we have 3 more of it, so this is +3 Training Dice every turn forever until we die since our Hamingja will literally always be 3 points higher.

Maybe the Muna is better, but it's not because Hamingja is easy to get or lacks value.
 
I think there's a level of perspective shift here. This is, as far as the Thing is concerned, a dispute between private parties. There's not a state apparatus of justice with an interest in proactively seeking and assigning punishments like a modern police force. Even if we'd gotten a full outlawing, killing Horra would have been our job. Some judges might find it good riddance, others might miss the flow of bribes, but I don't think the Headsman has the same mindset of "damn, he got away" as a modern criminal judge or DA might.
 
I understand what your intention was.
My intention was to show that, hey, Drysalt is something that should be taken seriously — which was successfully conveyed, judging by the thread. I don't particularly care how anyone wants to think of a character, that's their prerogative. I'm not anyone's dad nor do I want to be.

If anyone brought charges to the Jarl, sure. Though I'm not sure if Weight works that way.
Weight's not gonna kill a cultivator, not even the weakest of cultivators will die to Weight. It might — might — kill a non-cultivator (Norse women are cultivators. That doesn't change just because they're more brainy then brawny). It'll body you if you're unprepared, but that's nothing new.
 
My intention was to show that, hey, Drysalt is something that should be taken seriously — which was successfully conveyed, judging by the thread. I don't particularly care how anyone wants to think of a character, that's their prerogative. I'm not anyone's dad nor do I want to be.

There is not reason to get angry, it was not my intention to accuse you of anything. I was only making observations on your protrayal of a character, i am sorry if i misunderstood something.

Weight's not gonna kill a cultivator, not even the weakest of cultivators will die to Weight. It might — might — kill a non-cultivator (Norse women are cultivators. That doesn't change just because they're more brainy then brawny). It'll body you if you're unprepared, but that's nothing new.

Halla heart stopped, if she had low Endurance (like most other Norse women do, since they have more Hugr than Hamr) she would have died.
 
There is not reason to get angry, it was not my intention to accuse you of anything. I was only making observations on your protrayal of a character, i am sorry if i misunderstood something.



Halla heart stopped, if she had low Endurance (like most other Norse women do, since they have more Hugr than Hamr) she would have died.
Well, an Endurance 1 hit is lethal, so they should be fine if they have Endurance 2? But also it didn't actually do any damage, we restarted it fine. Cultivators are tough.
 
Horra Failure-Father (Shard)
Horra Failure-Father

Father slain in honor,
Felagkin he murders.

Whoreson's full-murdered,
Wholly still unknowing.

Breaks the Thing's Sacred Peace,
Brandished still on flooring:

Horrason's mock-body,
Horra Failure-Father.

(Fuck you, Horra. Eat a negative kenning while we prepare to kill you.)
 
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Weight's not gonna kill a cultivator, not even the weakest of cultivators will die to Weight. It might — might — kill a non-cultivator (Norse women are cultivators. That doesn't change just because they're more brainy then brawny). It'll body you if you're unprepared, but that's nothing new.
Halla's heart just stopped. Non-norse cultivators might consider that a source of some concern, and she's far from the weakest cultivator out there.
 
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