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'Hey, Blackhand? Do you know if Wind Hugareida can be alloyed with Fire Hugareida - and if so, what kind of hugareida it'd make?'
NorseQuest (A Norse Xianxia)
- Thread starter I.F. Ister
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- Original Fantasy Action
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Alectai
Speaks Words of Wisdom... On occasion
Wind + Fire is like butter and toast, their synergy is stupid, and there's probably some really good Alloys that can come out of that. Ignition + Gale in particular might be a way to get early access to Firestorm, given how you've now got a spark and fuel to spool up into insanity.
But Sharpen is a mystery box that I hope we can get insight into.
That being said, I'm not sure if this was a meta warning about investigating the Sanctum or not.
But Sharpen is a mystery box that I hope we can get insight into.
That being said, I'm not sure if this was a meta warning about investigating the Sanctum or not.
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Wind + Fire feels like it could do some crazy stuff if we combine it with EWC... like, imagine our mobility if we could combine Wind movement tricks with EWC.
[X] Muna: Whistling Wind (Unlocks a Wind Hugareida)
[X] No
I'm inclined to not visit Horra's Sanctum as of now, since we would be injured, and our armour wouldn't be fully prepared... I mean, I guess I could see an argument for going, since our plan is to not get into any fights to begin with, but that seems a little too optimistic to me. Even if we don't get into any fights, I very much doubt that Horra has left his Sanctum defenceless, and I expect many traps. Hell, maybe he even has some flesh golem or one of those Irish eye monstrosity things guarding it inside.
[X] Muna: Whistling Wind (Unlocks a Wind Hugareida)
[X] No
I'm inclined to not visit Horra's Sanctum as of now, since we would be injured, and our armour wouldn't be fully prepared... I mean, I guess I could see an argument for going, since our plan is to not get into any fights to begin with, but that seems a little too optimistic to me. Even if we don't get into any fights, I very much doubt that Horra has left his Sanctum defenceless, and I expect many traps. Hell, maybe he even has some flesh golem or one of those Irish eye monstrosity things guarding it inside.
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Based on the Wiki articles, I think henki is "inner power", more like a personal mana pool used for augmentation.
While Vaki is "outer power" or command of spirits.
His wind spells would likely be a result of vaki.
I.F. Ister
Fortifying The Thread
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Can't say ;P
'They work very well together. Emberwind is one example of such a hugareida, which can be made from any fire hugareida mixed with Gale.'
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What does Beaver symbolize as a fylgja? something about building dams synergize quite well with all the talk in the thread about this one being the homekeeper.
Alectai
Speaks Words of Wisdom... On occasion
Oooof, tough choice then. A fundamental boost to our combat capabilities across the board or opening up bold new vistas in Bullshit Magic.
Traditionally beavers are associated with productivity, "busy as a beaver" and all that.
And, uh, to medieval Christians they supposedly gnawed their testicles off and threw them to distract hunters, which symbolizes ??!!??
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[X] Muna: Whistling Wind (Unlocks a Wind Hugareida)
[X] No
[X] No
ThatGazzer
Minds Eye Bind
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Industriousness and cleverness I think? It's also I might note, the first New World Animal among them, that's neat.
[X] Muna: Whistling Wind (Unlocks a Wind Hugareida)
Apparently there are European beavers, once hunted nearly to extinction but probably existent at the time of the quest.
Eurasian beaver - Wikipedia
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Huh. That's a neat piece of information, thanks! I wonder if Norse Cultivation has an equivalent of Vaki? From what I can tell, Odr is the Henki equivalent, while Frenzy is the Rhythm equivalent... Do we actually know of any other power source Christians draw from? Like, we never got definitive proof that there was only Zeal and Fervor?
Also:
'How does Emberwind compare to fire hugareida such as Firestorm, and Wildfire? We know the former to be 'fuck everything in that general area', and the latter to be a more precise/controlled version of it - does Emberwind lie somewhere between this scale?'
Alectai
Speaks Words of Wisdom... On occasion
Hrm, if you can't say that, then could you tell us if Sharpen fucking up weapons was a symptom of Sten using flash-forged constructs for it, or if that's just the price you pay for whatever it does? Something that'd fuck up our beloved catte is verboten, but a "Hone but better and more exclusive" is extremely appealing, even if it lacks the whizz-bang of opening up Wind Magic.
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Eh, sure, but I'm of the opinion that assuming we'll get through the Sanctum without encountering something that could damage us is rather optimistic. Although, do we actually know if we'll get another chance like this, where Horra is away from his Sanctum?
Alectai
Speaks Words of Wisdom... On occasion
Nothing guaranteed.
That being said, Halla... Isn't known for taking damage in fights usually, Sten did it because he's an absolute monster who out-Big Numbered us with conventional tricks, and had our entire toolbox pegged and countered before the fight even began, and while Horra probably hasn't left his sanctum undefended, we're not going there intending to get in a face-smashing contest either. Ideally, we stealth run it.
Hrm, @Imperial Fister , what's our new Muna do?
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- on the way to the fire.
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Hallr didn't mention how to train Sharpen in the normal way, if this is a generic trick.
Doubt it will work, considering it won't be offered as a reward otherwise, but worth the try.
'Hey Hallr, do you remember the way you gained Sharpen? or if there is a standard way to gain it by training like Hone?'
Doubt it will work, considering it won't be offered as a reward otherwise, but worth the try.
'Hey Hallr, do you remember the way you gained Sharpen? or if there is a standard way to gain it by training like Hone?'
And they make sense as combination outside of hugareida, too.
Like mixed magic metal crafting is a qm confirmed thing.
The downside was not being able to use one part without the other, iirc.
So wind metal + fire metal should be possible and probably synergize well.
Wind is know to cause Fire. See: Combustion triangle, figures of speech like "fanning the flames".
Fire is know to cause Wind. See: Hot air rising.
There is also the Eurasian beaver.
@Imperial Fister
is our kids having determined Fylgjas a "not character generation" thing (i.e. affects all our offspring) or a "Seeing Eyes trait" thing? (I.e. The trait moves it ahead and since we haven't incarnated as them yet we get no vote, but without the trait it would be determined at unveiling (and we'd have a vote if we incarnated as said character))
I.F. Ister
Fortifying The Thread
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Eurasian Beavers stuck around in Southern Norway ;P
'Emberwind is very similar to Ignition, except it is more precise and has a much longer reach.'
So, there is a difference between sharpening something and honing it. Honing means that you're straightening out the cutting edge while sharpening means that you're taking the edge off and starting with a new one. Honing can't fix chips, sharpening can.
So it's just how the trick works.
'It's a bit similar to Recall in that it requires doing weird things with your orthstirr in order to make it work.'
Ope, just realized that I didn't update the character sheet! My bad!
Seeing Eyes thing
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Fair enough, I suppose I'm just being overly paranoid. I don't expect any automated defenses to have something like Puncture, as I don't think Twists work that way, and I don't think a golem/monstrosity would have something like it either. We could probably get through it, I guess.
Although, @Imperial Fister, if we wait to raid Horra's Sanctum, will we be at a disadvantage? Haven't really been keeping a track of things, but is the next turn the Thing or Steinar's ultimatum?
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I think we're fine for the sanctum. We still have 5+2+12=19 Effective Endurance which is literally more than we had at any point in our entire history before gaining Mail. We will be tougher for the sanctum than we have been for any fight in our entire history other than that spar, and the fight with the Foemen, I guess (though we took zero damage in the latter).
Think of it this way, would we have gone if we had just had to swap out armor? Because that would have put us at 10+2+8 =20 Effective Endurance, and sure a little less of it can be bypassed but it wouldn't be giving us +4 on all defenses.
We're fine to go, folks. And we need the evidence
[X] Muna: Whistling Wind (Unlocks a Wind Hugareida)
[X] Yes
Commentary on the fight to follow, but I thought I needed to point this out quickly.
Think of it this way, would we have gone if we had just had to swap out armor? Because that would have put us at 10+2+8 =20 Effective Endurance, and sure a little less of it can be bypassed but it wouldn't be giving us +4 on all defenses.
We're fine to go, folks. And we need the evidence
[X] Muna: Whistling Wind (Unlocks a Wind Hugareida)
[X] Yes
Commentary on the fight to follow, but I thought I needed to point this out quickly.
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Alectai
Speaks Words of Wisdom... On occasion
This is our final window to gather evidence before we start the endgame while still having the ability to testify in court.
[X] Muna: Whistling Wind (Unlocks a Wind Hugareida)
[X] Yes
Ultimately, what we learned here is that our toolkit is too limited to roll with the Big Boys outside of the Element of Surprise, we need more tools as much as better ones. Wind is very compatible with our current setup, so it's a good pick.
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I.F. Ister
Fortifying The Thread
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You've got another Winter, and then the Summer after that for Steinarr's ultimatum to proc.
You won't be at a disadvantage.
[X] Muna: Whistling Wind (Unlocks a Wind Hugareida)
[X] Yes
[X] Yes