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NorseQuest (A Norse Xianxia)

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Hmm i am somehow feeling better and more at peace with our quest goals after the raid despite the Jarlsoul and Horra set backs. I think the raid let us think way too much about the distant future while the Jarlsoul and Horra set backs grounded me.

We should all forget about Cultivation reform for a good bit. We have yet to hit our milestones or unlock Seidr, which are very large aspects of our system, no point in speculating when we have so little information

Also earlier someone speculated about something at step 9, there will be nothing at step 9. Think about it we start at step 1 base without boons, 2 with boons. So I think 1+3x steps are special unlocks, Fylgja 4 give us cool stuff, Hamr 7 will give us cool stuff. Therefore 10 is ultra cool stuff as it 1+9.

Side note at Hugr 4 we learned Poetry without spending training dice (see: Summer 2/turn 1) and also might have caused to realize we loved Abjorn (also could have been the immediate aftermath of battle on ice and nothing with Hugr 4)
At Hamr 4 nothing special seemingly happened (see Summer 2/Turn 3) but that same turn involved Witch Visit 1.1-1.2 which unlokced us Fylgja 1 and Blackhand. Let us assume blackhand was our reward for Hamr 4 (for NPCs itd be what orthstirr remains from the dead ancestor they were named for) and the Fylgja unlock was coincidental.
 
Slickji said:
Side note at Hugr 4 we learned Poetry without spending training dice (see: Summer 2/turn 1) and also might have caused to realize we loved Abjorn (also could have been the immediate aftermath of battle on ice and nothing with Hugr 4)
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This was part of the rules changeover to Skill-Tricks and how they work now. We lost a couple of skills and gained several Skill-Tricks for things we'd either already done or been stated to be able to do. Poetry was one of them. It didn't represent anything in-universe, I'm pretty sure.
 
DeadmanwalkingXI said:
This was part of the rules changeover to Skill-Tricks and how they work now. We lost a couple of skills and gained several Skill-Tricks for things we'd either already done or been stated to be able to do. Poetry was one of them.
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Okay but the I dont think we did much poetry based training or actions our first year (except one raw Hugr training section involved us reciting poetry). It might be you unlock an appropriate free Hugr Skill-trick at Hamr 4 and your Orthstirr inheritance at Hamr 4. It could also be nothing since Fylgja is special and Fylgja 4 was a boon and a flaw.
 
Alectai said:
@Imperial Fister , did Halla spend any Orthstirr in that moment? It explicitly said that Power was burning under her skin, and that there was the three Aspects flying around her at the time.
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Halla did not. Neither did Hallr
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Oh, and @Imperial Fister can we get a look at mail and helmets while we're here? We could afford some if we wanted...we probably don't but it seems like we should at least get a look at the mechanics so we can choose whether or not to buy some in an informed fashion. Or either keep the bell or buy a lot more Forged Iron so we can make some, of course.
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I'll just tell you here what they do.

Mail and metal armor in general actually adds numbers (not dice) to defense results (while also providing Armor Health). Basic mail is gonna add 4, Decent 8, Good 12, and so on. A Basic helmet will add 2, Decent 4, Good 6, and so on
 
Imperial Fister said:
Halla did not. Neither did Hallr

I'll just tell you here what they do.

Mail and metal armor in general actually adds numbers (not dice) to defense results (while also providing Armor Health). Basic mail is gonna add 4, Decent 8, Good 12, and so on. A Basic helmet will add 2, Decent 4, Good 6, and so on
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Interesting, and yet there were signs of the Aspects flowing around her in the aftermath, that nobody else noticed either. Halla didn't invoke them, neither did Hallr, and yet there they were. She would recognize those Aspects if she saw them again, would she?

Well, at least that's a good excuse for her to start experimenting with them, huh? Was this event always going to happen the moment we confronted someone with one of those Contradictions?

Also, yeah, as expected, Mail is really good, it also seems to explain how insanely high the defense pools of that Squire were too if they basically had 20+ free automatic defense results. They don't necessarily need more than one or two dice, and it probably also extends to their attacks too.
 
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Slickji said:
Okay but the I dont think we did much poetry based training or actions our first year (except one raw Hugr training section involved us reciting poetry). It might be you unlock an appropriate free Hugr Skill-trick at Hamr 4 and your Orthstirr inheritance at Hamr 4. It could also be nothing since Fylgja is special and Fylgja 4 was a boon and a flaw.
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We'd explicitly written a poem before, which is why we got the Skill-Trick (which you need to do that). We hadn't focused on it a lot, but we'd done it.

Imperial Fister said:
I'll just tell you here what they do.

Mail and metal armor in general actually adds numbers (not dice) to defense results (while also providing Armor Health). Basic mail is gonna add 4, Decent 8, Good 12, and so on. A Basic helmet will add 2, Decent 4, Good 6, and so on
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Interesting. How does material quality effect that? Like, being made of Forge-Iron as opposed to Bog-Iron?
 
Alectai said:
Well, at least that's a good excuse for her to start experimenting with them, huh? Was this event always going to happen the moment we confronted someone with one of those Contradictions?
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Correct. Didn't have to be this specific one, it's just the way things lined up.
DeadmanwalkingXI said:
Interesting. How does material quality effect that? Like, being made of Forge-Iron as opposed to Bog-Iron?
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1.5x better than the previous material quality. Forged Iron Mail would be 6 at Basic, 12 at Decent, 18 at Good, and so on
 
Imperial Fister said:
Correct. Didn't have to be this specific one, it's just the way things lined up.

1.5x better than the previous material quality. Forged Iron Mail would be 6 at Basic, 12 at Decent, 18 at Good, and so on
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So, Forged Iron is best for Raw Numbers out of the stuff we have, but the magical stuff carries neato perks?

Question, can Forged Iron be refined from Bog Iron?
 
KreenWarrior said:
Of course, "Gotland" isn't the only possible origin of the Weapon. The Weapon belongs to our ancestors. Gotland is named because it's people come from the Goths. The Weapon could derive from the Huns, or even from something recovered from the sacking of Rome, in which case it could derive from Greek or Roman mythology, like one of Zeus's thunderbolts. Or Christian mythology. It could even be something like a piece of the True Cross, worked into a sword Dresden Files-style or not, though I find that fairly unlikely.
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Attila was said to wield a blade that granted him divine favor. Given that the migration he caused led to the final destruction of the Western Roman Empire, it would be a potent blade indeed. Perhaps potent enough to break the Curse of Steel.
 
Imperial Fister said:
Ah ha!

You grin as you shoot to your feet, mind abuzz with new ideas and concepts you hadn't quite grasped before.

You'd had Stigr recite a line from one of his stupidly complex poems for you and now, after only a week of pondering its meaning, did you finally figure it out!

Your grin widens as your doggy friend joins in your happiness with barks of his own.

It's a good day to be Halla!

(Hugr Ranked Up)
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DeadmanwalkingXI said:
We'd explicitly written a poem before, which is why we got the Skill-Trick (which you need to do that). We hadn't focused on it a lot, but we'd done it.
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Actually this only time the word Poem or Poetry come up before Sumer 2 Turn 1, I might have missed it but mostly we did needle work and cloth work with out mom like making clothes for Yule presents.
 
Alectai said:
Any chance of a follow up-update tonight to close out the turn?
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Maybe, if a plan is by and large the winner. Judging by the votes right now, though, not 100% sure that it's going to be happening tonight.

If you guys want, I can start writing the update now, I guess. Since it's not hanging on anything that hinges on this vote, I could just post it the moment the voting is done.
 
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Alright, with that information on how mail works, we definitely want Mail eventually but, for Halla specifically, it's not urgent, because we rarely actually roll defense rolls.

It would've been ridiculously awesome in the fight with the Nisse, or in fights with mortals, but vs. Trick Attacks? It'll seldom be relevant. Mastery of Reinforce Shield also gives us a potentially huge pool of health vs. those attacks it would be most useful on, which really helps make up for not having it. So we want some, sure, but it's not urgent.

Alectai said:
Very nice, here's hoping that I Like Swords wins.
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I mean, every plan thus far has the materials for a magic weapon in it. In fact, a magic weapon that provides exactly as many dice as a sword...in most of them it's just a sax. Not throwing shade for wanting a sword, but we're gonna get to play around with the magic material either way, and on a weapon with an equal number of dice even.
 
Ooof.

Hmm.

Hey, @DeadmanwalkingXI , do we really need a giant pile of Forged Iron at the expense of the Bog Iron though? We need lots of material to practice with after all. If it means getting a chance at a follow up update tonight, I'm willing to consolidate, even if I want a sword :(

EDIT: Then again, you also buy most of the Tools which saves us a lot of AP... Blech, fine! Fine! I'll pass on a Sword for now.

[X] Plan Backup Tools And Metals
 
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Imperial Fister said:
If you guys want, I can start writing the update now, I guess. Since it's not hanging on anything that hinges on this vote, I could just post it the moment the voting is done.
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Yeah, at the end of the day, the vote here isn't going to impact the Plot, and I want to sink my teeth into the next turn update.

EDIT: Your regular updates and consistent quality have turned me into an addict, send help.
 
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Alectai said:
Ooof.

Hmm.

Hey, @DeadmanwalkingXI , do we really need a giant pile of Forged Iron at the expense of the Bog Iron though? We need lots of material to practice with after all. If it means getting a chance at a follow up update tonight, I'm willing to consolidate, even if I want a sword :(
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I think we do want the Forged Iron, yeah. We can always use badly made stuff as the raw materials for new stuff, so 'practice' only uses up materials if it's something we actually want to keep and use. In which case, we can in fact buy more iron later...this will last us a while and the price of iron is actually high right now. We also still wind up with over 40 oz of Bog Iron for real 'practice job' stuff even if we sell the bell, which seems like enough to me.

I could be convinced not to sell the bell, though, if you really think we need that much additional Bog Iron. Like, I'm selling it because I'm sort of at a loss as to what else to do with it if we've got Good Bog Iron Tools (which are so cheap that they're eminently worth it), and are mostly gonna be making new stuff out of Forged Iron, not because I'm desperate to get rid of it.
 
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Constenanto said:
Can a weapon have both Forged Iron and Magic Iron in it?
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Yes, but it would be functionally identical to Magic Iron so I don't know why you would want to other than funding-reasons. In such an instance, depending on the ratio of Firon to Miron, then the overall effects would be diminished.
Alectai said:
Yeah, at the end of the day, the vote here isn't going to impact the Plot, and I want to sink my teeth into the next turn update.
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Alrighty, lemme go find a can of go juice and I'll get started.

I'll call the vote in an hour and a half, that sound good to everyone?
 
DeadmanwalkingXI said:
I think we do want the Forged Iron, yeah. We can always use badly made stuff as the raw materials for new stuff, so 'practice' only uses up materials if it's something we actually want to keep and use. In which case, we can in fact buy more iron later...this will last us a while and the price is actually high right now. We also still wind up with over 40 oz of Bog Iron for real 'practice job' stuff even if we sell the bell, which seems like enough to me.

I could be convinced not to sell the bell, though, if you really think we need that much additional Bog Iron. Like, I'm selling it because I'm sort of at a loss as to what else to do with it if we've got Good Bog Iron Tools (which are so cheap that they're eminently worth it), and are mostly gonna be making new stuff out of Forged Iron, not because I'm desperate to get rid of it.
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Yeah, fair enough. Helping alleviate an iron shortage might help our Hamingja too, and it'll save us the headache of breaking it down. We've also still got a decent supply to practice with.

I guess if I want a good Magical Metal, we're pretty close to unlocking the Meteorite, and that should qualify as Sky Metal by this point, right?
 
Oops just finished reading the update, WTF. Could not have chosen a worse time to try and find a new quest to join, I need more Norse Quest!

[X] Plan Backup Tools And Metals
 
It was at the end of a page, so I guess people just missed it or something, since it's not been commented on at all, positively OR negatively... but I feel as though this is worth considering.

Ryumancer said:
I wonder if we can/should try writing a diary or something, chronicling all the changes to fate/reality our lineage has noted, to ensure we don't have to figure out a new way of learning about this every generation or two, we can just pass the diary down from protagonist to protagonist.
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Thoughts?
 
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