NorseQuest (A Norse Xianxia)
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I.F. Ister
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Sure
thats a good question.
The Enemy makes a move.
Firestorm
Can't say. I need to keep it open so I can add stuff that I either didn't know about, didn't consider, or simply forgot the existence of.
Rule of thumb is '9-ish'.
Campfire - homely uses of fire
Ignition - kickstarting things/making fire more/explosions
Wildfire - Fire-fire. If you want to burn something down, you use this.
Forgefire - very hot fire, advanced version of Campfire that is too hot for most uses. Required for high tier crafts.
Can't, really. But nothing good if it did happen.
The appearance? No. The order it appears in? Yes.
Hmm, if Steelfathers or Steelmothers are the current end point of Norse cultivation and it requires an outside source of power to get to. What would you guys term Halla's version of that step in Norse cultivation?
Edit: Also Forgefire seems to be combat capable but I think the problem is combat projection?
Edit: Also Forgefire seems to be combat capable but I think the problem is combat projection?
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I.F. Ister
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Halla doesn't have the words to describe half the things you talk about. At most, half-formed thoughts that'll require a catalyst for her to start thinking about properly.
Fortunately, one such catalyst is coming up.
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Do Steelfather's have skin like steel, or is their skin literally steel?
Alectai
Speaks Words of Wisdom... On occasion
Well, that's fuckin' ominous. If they're going to take a swing at us in the middle of town, the Shit has Hit The Fan. Then again, we might not be the actual target and we're just in the splash zone.
Firestorm? Neat, sounds like "Wildfire, but it actually spreads even more explosively and even faster"
Is that '9-ish Fire Hugareida' or '9-ish tiers?' It does sort of make sense that each Hugareida 'School' would have an entry level version "Tier 0" version that can be taught though, like Campfire. Which probably means getting the "Tier 1" set through Alloying isn't super hard for a Hugr expert, but the higher level stuff seems to require multiple Hugareida.
I guess based on all of this, that the Main Plot is about to kick into high gear, isn't it? Hmm. Are there any ways to further our understanding of adjacent Hugareida at all, or are we forever at the mercy of the Muna Gacha?
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@Imperial Fister Here's a fun one: have the chansons de geste been written yet, and if so would Jeramus or Gabriel know any of them?
Alectai
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Yeah, we knew there was someone else fucking around, the Draugr wasn't Horra's doing (Though the Nisse was)
I wonder then if we're going to be shifting to a war footing then.
@Imperial Fister If its not a spoiler, I'm curious how strong was the strongest cultivator that Hallr has ever met? Wonder if the answer is himself.
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I suspect it's a more social sort of move than a direct attack.
I don't think Hugareida have 'tiers' like that. I think they're all equal, just mixed together differently...like Firestorm is bigger than Wildfire but also even less precise. Alloying is still great because you keep the two base Hugareida and get a new one, so it's a free new Hugareida that does new things, but they don't make a 'better' Hugareida.
But just to be clear: @Imperial Fister are there 'tiers' of Hugareida, where some are better than others? Or only achievable through alloying?
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I think the tiers refer to Hugareida Grade, like how Halla's Standstill went from 1 to 2. Grade 9 would give 256 bonus dice to all relevant actions, which is something
Alectai
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No, there's definite tiers. IF mentioned a "Sky-Father's Forge" as being one of the peak Fire Hugareida.
There's certainly something to say about a highly developed lower level Hugareida being better than a poorly grasped higher level one, so it can't be said that any Hugareida is objectively superior. But that being said, someone who's mastered a top tier Hugareida is probably going to shit all over people with lower tier ones with comparable mastery.
I.F. Ister
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That's a good question
the former
I wouldn't say high gear. I'd say that the key is in the ignition.
Sort of, I'm starting to hit a sleepy wall so this is the last answer pull for today. I'll answer a few more tomorrow.
Cultivator specifically? That he personally met?
Attila the Hun. (None of you saw that one coming)
there are not. There are, however, ones that are *hotter*. The hottest, flat out, is Ilmarinen's.
Good question.
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Alectai
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Damnit, I knew the Sampo would show up somewhere!
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It's not "the current end point of Norse Cultivation", though. I think it's... basically like an alternate rank-up technique that's been crafted as a sort of dead end. It's apparently not the Gods. It's... probably tied in with the nornir? Basically, though, when we start defying the heavens, the people who made the Steelfathers be a thing are going to be the heavens we're defying.
There was also that guy who attacked Halfdan's farm. We know that we are fated to meet again, and that when we do, one of us will die.
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Thats pretty cool.
Alectai
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Possible, either way, it looks like we're going to be entering Chapter 3 of Halla's Saga in fine style.
I do hope we at least get some management turns before we're back into more life or death battles though.
Shard
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So Steelfathers aren't supposed to be part of the Norse cultivation system.
9 Steelfathers killed Hallr Blackhand an indeterminate amount of time after he achieved his feat.
Steel just makes everything worse in this setting.
Did Hallr figure out that something was wrong with Steelfathers as a concept and tried to wipe them out? Like, are Steelfathers, leeching off the Norse cultivation system or infesting it? They're clearly not good for it (as a system).
9 Steelfathers killed Hallr Blackhand an indeterminate amount of time after he achieved his feat.
Steel just makes everything worse in this setting.
Did Hallr figure out that something was wrong with Steelfathers as a concept and tried to wipe them out? Like, are Steelfathers, leeching off the Norse cultivation system or infesting it? They're clearly not good for it (as a system).
Alectai
Speaks Words of Wisdom... On occasion
By definition, Steel is Not Good For Anyone. It's powerful, but apparently inherently a force of Ruin that just Won't Go Away. Makes fine weapons, but those weapons will outlive the purposes they were forged for even if made with good intentions, and once that happens, they're not anybody's friend.
So yeah, the Steelfathers seem to be the Final Boss of Norsequest, and casting them down with our own power as a society seems to be a critical pre-requisite to the Good Endings as opposed to borrowing power from the outside. Which technically defeats the Final Boss but can't be called a genuine victory for "NorseQuest" as a concept either.
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Pempelune
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The Sea Peoples, IOTL, didn't use steel. The empires of that period used bronze, while they used a weaker, more brittle, but much cheaper metal: iron. It would take centuries to develop the techniques that allow to forge steel, and iron/steel remained for a very long time inferior to bronze.
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Wut, did Attila live like 4000 years somehow?