IF specifically noted on Discord that the use of fire is likely to upset the Hading. Which would be bad. The Great Ash Tree is her husband...even superficial burns on him would be potentially very upsetting to her. And she's a spirit of the whole forest, burning the grass and flowers would not be appreciated either, I don't think. It's a big risk we don't need to take.
yeah, that's new, but it wasn't here in thread.
it does justify it though.
 
And voting is now closed
Scheduled vote count started by Imperial Fister on Dec 27, 2023 at 7:37 PM, finished with 63 posts and 5 votes.

  • [X] Plan Speedy Engagement
    -[X] Assign our 8 shapeshifting slots to Increased Lung Capacity x8 (for yet more attack speed)
    -[X] Use Sundersight to analyze our opponents weaknesses as we fight
    -[X] Invest 4 Orthstirr in Hugr, 2 in Fylgja, 2 in Composure, 4 in Tactics, 4 in Scouting (-16 Orthstirr)
    -[X] Unassign Forgefire and Heated Shroud, assign Solar Flare and Atgeir Strike. Assign all Hugareida levels of Standstill to Instances (+5 Instances total) and all Hugareida levels of Ignition to dice (+13 dice total).
    -[X] Activate Banish the Night
    -[X] 111d6 Attack (111d6 tricks)
    -[X] 0d6 Defense (0d6 tricks)
    -[X] 30d6 Intercept (30d6 tricks)
    -[X] Draw a shield, put 5 Orthstirr each into 10 layers of Reinforce Shield each on the shield and armor before the combat begins (Total -10 Orthstirr)
    -[X] Activate Stoker State 3 (-9 Orthstirr), Slipstream (-8 Orthstirr), Mire Ward (-6 Orthstirr, +3 Stoked Dice), and Against The Odds (-35 Orthstirr). All actions below should add the bonus from Against The Odds, but that's variable and thus not added. If we count as in sunlifght, all attacks should also add the +1d6 from Sunshine, but again, that's not clear and thus has not been added.
    -[X] Put up two 40d6+7 Atgeir Bodyguards adding 1 Odr each on Abjorn (-92 Orthstirr, -2 Odr), and an Atgeir Counter-Stab prepped to make thirty-one 3d6+7 Sharpened Basic Attacks adding 1 Odr (-39 Orthstirr, -1 Odr), having Sagaseeker take charge of one of the Bodyguards and the Counter-Stab using them himself. Draw Burning Caress. Ask Shadeclaw to guard him as well, to the best of her ability when not worn.
    -[X] Set up a 120d6+7 Semi-Halting Vortex adding 6 Odr (Total -121 Orthstirr, +3 Stoked Pool, -6 Odr) set up to only be used as a rolled defense never as a Perfect, and do not use it against Fleinns
    -[X] As backups, put up a 40d6+7 Sword Guard (-44 Orthstirr), and three 40d6+7 Semi-Halting Vortexes (Total -123 Orthstirr, +9 Stoked Pool) set up to only be used as rolled defenses never as Perfects, and neither against Fleinns
    -[X] Make a Stoking Engage for 36 Stoked Pool, making thirty-six 3d6+7 Sharpened Basic Attacks (-49 Orthstirr, -36 Stoked Pool, +108 Stoked Pool) all followed up by 4d6+7 Sharpened Sword Strike Basic Attacks (-324 Orthstirr total, +108 Stoked Pool) at different targets, then using a 183d6+7 Sharpened Stoking Cleave adding 180 Stoked Pool (-13 Orthstirr, -180 Stoked Pool) to attack all shades nearby, being careful not to harm the forest as much as possible, and making sure to release the energy as force rather than fire, and following up with a 4d6+7 Sharpened Sword Strike Basic Attack (-9 Orthstirr, +3 Stoked Pool). Follow up with three additional Sharpened 9d6+7 Sharpened Stoking Cleaves adding 6 Stoked Dice each (-13 Orthstirr and -6 Stoked Pool each) splitting the damage among the shades, and following up each with a 4d6+7 Sharpened Sword Strike Basic Attack (-9 Orthstirr, +3 Stoked Pool).
    -[X] If the Stoked Engage is broken prematurely use the first Stoking Cleave prematurely as well, burning enough Stoked Pool to get down well below our cap but leaving at least 30 dice. If we have enough Stoked Pool after our Stoking Engage that 180 dice burned will not get us down below 40 dice in the pool, then use more to get us to at least that point.
    -[X] Against ranged attacks, defending should be easy and simple due to Mire Ward. If something cancels that defend the same as against melee attacks below.
    -[X] Against melee attacks against Halla default to using Contested Movement (-1 Orthstirr, 12d6+7 Hamr Roll, +3 Stoked Pool) and counterattack with Sharpened Basic Attacks (-1 Orthstirr), if attacked by multiple opponents at once use the big Semi-Halting Vortex, then Sword Guard, and then the smaller Semi-Halting Vortexes and quick-drawn Shield Sacrifices (-Reinforce Shield usage or -3 Endurance on one Shield). If we fail on the opposed roll with Contested Movement stop using it, just use the other defenses in the listed sequence.
    -[X] For Abjorn, always defend with the big Semi-Halting Vortex, then use the two Atgeir Bodyguards, then the three smaller Semi-Halting Vortexes, then Contested Movement and/or up to thirty 2d6+7 Reinforced Hefty-Halter Chop defenses (-4 Orthstirr each) as seems appropriate. If we have to prioritize defending one of the two of us, defend Abjorn over ourselves.
    -[X] If attacked with a Fleinn that isn't handled by Mire Ward do not use Guards, just go straight to using a Shield.
    -[X] If needed, and only if needed, use Slowing Slog for 9 DR adding 3 Odr for duration (-81 Orthstirr, and -3 Odr) to reduce damage against ourselves. We'll do the same on Abjorn if he's actually hit and it's possible.
    -[X] Tactics – The basic idea here is to set up some serious defenses in depth over Abjorn especially (including asking Sagaseeker and Shadeclaw to guard him), and stand over him protectively, then go to town using Stoked Engage as fast as possible to whittle down our enemies numbers as they come to us (we should have Speed 29 for our Stoking Engage stuff), then a Stoking Cleave to really clear them out.
 
As I think over this again, I realize that I made a mistake by having you folks do a traditional combat plan when this isn't a traditional combat round. As such, I'm changing my mind and will be doing things a little bit differently. As I made a mistake and it was no fault of yours, I will be very lenient with how I handle the coming fight.

With that in mind, I'm going to need you folks to roll some dice:
-40 dice (atgeir bodyguard 1)
-40 dice (atgeir bodyguard 2)
-20 dice (Halla 1)
-20 dice (Halla 2)
-20 dice (Halla 3)
-20 dice (Halla 4)
-20 dice (Halla 5)
 
Rolling atgeir bodyguard 1.
Oshha threw 10 6-faced dice. Total: 31
1 1 4 4 5 5 5 5 4 4 1 1 2 2 2 2 2 2 5 5
Oshha threw 10 6-faced dice. Total: 41
3 3 6 6 6 6 1 1 6 6 2 2 4 4 5 5 3 3 5 5
Oshha threw 10 6-faced dice. Total: 38
4 4 6 6 5 5 5 5 6 6 1 1 6 6 3 3 1 1 1 1
Oshha threw 10 6-faced dice. Total: 42
5 5 6 6 4 4 1 1 6 6 4 4 5 5 2 2 4 4 5 5
 
Atgeir bodyguard 2
fearsome hill threw 11 6-faced dice. Total: 48
3 3 6 6 6 6 4 4 4 4 1 1 6 6 4 4 5 5 4 4 5 5
fearsome hill threw 9 6-faced dice. Total: 30
2 2 3 3 5 5 4 4 6 6 2 2 4 4 3 3 1 1
fearsome hill threw 10 6-faced dice. Total: 43
3 3 5 5 3 3 5 5 6 6 5 5 2 2 5 5 3 3 6 6
fearsome hill threw 10 6-faced dice. Total: 38
6 6 2 2 3 3 4 4 6 6 6 6 1 1 2 2 5 5 3 3
 
I'll take Halla 1.
Silverking threw 10 6-faced dice. Reason: Halla 1 Total: 31
5 5 2 2 6 6 2 2 1 1 1 1 2 2 5 5 6 6 1 1
Silverking threw 10 6-faced dice. Reason: Halla 1 Total: 29
1 1 6 6 5 5 2 2 1 1 4 4 4 4 3 3 2 2 1 1
 
Halla 2 for me.
mythfan12 threw 10 6-faced dice. Reason: Halla 2 Total: 37
6 6 5 5 5 5 4 4 3 3 4 4 1 1 2 2 6 6 1 1
mythfan12 threw 10 6-faced dice. Reason: Halla 2 Total: 35
2 2 3 3 2 2 3 3 3 3 3 3 6 6 4 4 5 5 4 4
 
Halla 3 since nobody else has rolled in the last few minutes.
Oshha threw 10 6-faced dice. Total: 40
4 4 3 3 2 2 6 6 6 6 3 3 4 4 3 3 3 3 6 6
Oshha threw 10 6-faced dice. Total: 38
6 6 1 1 6 6 6 6 2 2 3 3 2 2 6 6 1 1 5 5
 
With that in mind, I'm going to need you folks to roll some dice:

For the record, the plan was primarily to use the SHV, especially the 120d6 one, with the Atgeir Bodyguards being backup if anything got through that. It thus seems very odd to me that it's not being counted here. Or the three secondary ones, which were also supposed to be used to protect Abjorn.

SHV has an area of effect that allows it to protects others, after all, as has been established.

I'll also roll Halla 4
DeadmanwalkingXI threw 10 6-faced dice. Reason: Halla 4 Total: 31
4 4 2 2 5 5 2 2 3 3 4 4 3 3 4 4 3 3 1 1
DeadmanwalkingXI threw 10 6-faced dice. Reason: Halla 4 Total: 39
4 4 2 2 1 1 3 3 5 5 6 6 3 3 5 5 5 5 5 5
 
Halla 5

Edit: Bit wonky but it's still 20
CedeTheBees threw 12 6-faced dice. Total: 36
2 2 5 5 2 2 2 2 4 4 2 2 4 4 3 3 4 4 3 3 2 2 3 3
CedeTheBees threw 8 6-faced dice. Total: 25
5 5 6 6 5 5 2 2 1 1 1 1 1 1 4 4
 
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So, rolled totals are:

Atgeir Bodyguard 1: 152
Atgeir Bodyguard 2: 159
Halla 1: 60
Halla 2: 72
Halla 3: 78
Halla 4: 70
Halla 5: 61

All should have bonuses added (the +7 from Frenzy if nothing else, but also probably the bonus from Against The Odds), and I really think the truly enormous SHV we spent 6 Odr on should also get counted somehow.
 
All should have bonuses added (the +7 from Frenzy if nothing else, but also probably the bonus from Against The Odds), and I really think the truly enormous SHV we spent 6 Odr on should also get counted somehow.
Sure, I'll have 6 rolls, please:
-50 dice (SHV 1)
-50 dice (SHV 2)
-50 dice (SHV 3)
-50 dice (SHV 4)
-50 dice (SHV 5)
-50 dice (SHV 6)
 
Sure, I'll have 6 rolls, please:

Alright, I'll do one of them.
DeadmanwalkingXI threw 10 6-faced dice. Reason: SHV #1 Total: 36
2 2 4 4 6 6 4 4 6 6 5 5 3 3 3 3 1 1 2 2
DeadmanwalkingXI threw 10 6-faced dice. Reason: SHV #1 Total: 44
1 1 5 5 5 5 4 4 2 2 5 5 6 6 5 5 6 6 5 5
DeadmanwalkingXI threw 10 6-faced dice. Reason: SHV #1 Total: 39
6 6 4 4 6 6 2 2 4 4 4 4 1 1 3 3 6 6 3 3
DeadmanwalkingXI threw 10 6-faced dice. Reason: SHV #1 Total: 31
1 1 4 4 4 4 1 1 4 4 4 4 4 4 3 3 4 4 2 2
DeadmanwalkingXI threw 10 6-faced dice. Reason: SHV #1 Total: 27
4 4 3 3 2 2 1 1 1 1 4 4 1 1 3 3 3 3 5 5
 
doing number 2

Edit: Lets see...
if adding all of it up, its 190
if 1 and 2 is a minus then... 52
TheCount threw 10 6-faced dice. Reason: SHV Total: 41
4 4 2 2 5 5 5 5 6 6 6 6 2 2 4 4 4 4 3 3
TheCount threw 10 6-faced dice. Reason: SHV 2.2 Total: 32
1 1 3 3 6 6 1 1 6 6 2 2 1 1 5 5 1 1 6 6
TheCount threw 10 6-faced dice. Reason: SHV 2.3 Total: 36
6 6 5 5 6 6 2 2 1 1 6 6 6 6 1 1 1 1 2 2
TheCount threw 10 6-faced dice. Reason: SHV 2.4 Total: 43
4 4 5 5 6 6 4 4 6 6 5 5 5 5 1 1 3 3 4 4
TheCount threw 10 6-faced dice. Reason: SHV 2.5 Total: 38
1 1 3 3 3 3 4 4 5 5 5 5 4 4 5 5 3 3 5 5
 
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Rolling SHV 3.
Oshha threw 10 6-faced dice. Total: 31
3 3 3 3 3 3 3 3 2 2 3 3 1 1 3 3 6 6 4 4
Oshha threw 10 6-faced dice. Total: 42
4 4 2 2 6 6 6 6 2 2 6 6 4 4 4 4 4 4 4 4
Oshha threw 10 6-faced dice. Total: 33
5 5 4 4 2 2 1 1 4 4 5 5 4 4 3 3 1 1 4 4
Oshha threw 10 6-faced dice. Total: 30
2 2 5 5 3 3 1 1 2 2 5 5 5 5 3 3 1 1 3 3
Oshha threw 10 6-faced dice. Total: 39
2 2 3 3 6 6 2 2 6 6 6 6 2 2 4 4 2 2 6 6
 
I guess I'll do another one, speed this up a tad.
DeadmanwalkingXI threw 10 6-faced dice. Reason: SHV #4 Total: 39
4 4 4 4 4 4 6 6 3 3 5 5 4 4 5 5 1 1 3 3
DeadmanwalkingXI threw 10 6-faced dice. Reason: SHV #4 Total: 38
5 5 5 5 3 3 1 1 5 5 6 6 1 1 1 1 5 5 6 6
DeadmanwalkingXI threw 10 6-faced dice. Reason: SHV #4 Total: 36
1 1 5 5 6 6 6 6 1 1 3 3 6 6 1 1 6 6 1 1
DeadmanwalkingXI threw 10 6-faced dice. Reason: SHV #4 Total: 39
3 3 5 5 6 6 4 4 4 4 1 1 4 4 3 3 5 5 4 4
DeadmanwalkingXI threw 10 6-faced dice. Reason: SHV #4 Total: 30
5 5 6 6 3 3 3 3 1 1 3 3 4 4 3 3 1 1 1 1
 
I'll do SHV 5
Silverking threw 10 6-faced dice. Reason: SHV 5 Total: 36
4 4 2 2 1 1 6 6 4 4 5 5 2 2 6 6 1 1 5 5
Silverking threw 10 6-faced dice. Reason: SHV 5.b Total: 30
2 2 6 6 1 1 3 3 5 5 2 2 2 2 3 3 4 4 2 2
Silverking threw 10 6-faced dice. Reason: SHV 5.c Total: 30
4 4 1 1 6 6 1 1 2 2 4 4 6 6 2 2 3 3 1 1
Silverking threw 10 6-faced dice. Reason: SHV 5.d Total: 42
6 6 3 3 4 4 4 4 4 4 5 5 2 2 4 4 4 4 6 6
Silverking threw 10 6-faced dice. Reason: SHV 5.e Total: 27
3 3 3 3 5 5 2 2 5 5 1 1 1 1 4 4 2 2 1 1
 
show me SHV 6!
mythfan12 threw 10 6-faced dice. Reason: SHV6 Total: 35
4 4 2 2 1 1 2 2 3 3 6 6 4 4 3 3 5 5 5 5
mythfan12 threw 10 6-faced dice. Reason: SHV6 Total: 30
3 3 1 1 3 3 4 4 3 3 5 5 2 2 6 6 2 2 1 1
mythfan12 threw 10 6-faced dice. Reason: SHV6 Total: 33
3 3 2 2 5 5 5 5 4 4 1 1 1 1 2 2 4 4 6 6
mythfan12 threw 10 6-faced dice. Reason: SHV6 Total: 39
3 3 4 4 2 2 5 5 6 6 6 6 2 2 3 3 5 5 3 3
mythfan12 threw 10 6-faced dice. Reason: SHV6 Total: 40
3 3 4 4 4 4 5 5 6 6 4 4 4 4 6 6 2 2 2 2
 
Total results of all rolls (again, before any applicable bonuses):

Atgeir Bodyguard 1: 152
Atgeir Bodyguard 2: 159
Halla 1: 60
Halla 2: 72
Halla 3: 78
Halla 4: 70
Halla 5: 61

SHV 1: 177
SHV 2: 190
SHV 3: 173
SHV 4: 182
SHV 5: 165
SHV 6: 177
 
hm...
Perhaps we should train a multi attack /AoE that has no elemental effects from Hugreidas?
But only things that come to mind would be something like cleave or spinning with a weapon, unless we learn how to do wave attakcs with our weapon hugreidas.
oh, right, wind blades are an option too, in case we ever run into a "no fire" situation again.
 
Perhaps we should train a multi attack /AoE that has no elemental effects from Hugreidas?
But only things that come to mind would be something like cleave or spinning with a weapon, unless we learn how to do wave attakcs with our weapon hugreidas.

I mean...we actually have this. That's what Stoking Cleave does, pretty specifically.

oh, right, wind blades are an option too, in case we ever run into a "no fire" situation again.

Gale doesn't do attacks well, so this may or may not be an option.
 
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