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NorseQuest (A Norse Xianxia)

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Imperial Fister said:
It's viable if you were to get a whole bunch of space, but having to fiddle with a cork in the middle of a fight isn't the most beneficial to long life

There isn't, but space is an issue as they don't 'stack'.
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Hmmm. Could you do a full cup in a Fylgja Capacity then? Seems like you could and would then not need a cork and could have a few prepped at need, one per Capacity...
 
Imperial Fister said:
You could absolutely do that
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Okay, we're definitely gonna do some of that then. We're well set up for Capacity abuse, after all (in just about every sense of that phrase, honestly, though I mean Fylgja Capacity here).

Does the quality of the cup matter?

And how many cups can you make with one unit of clay? Logically it seems like more than one given the mass involved, but magic is also a factor, so I could see it being one per unit as well.
 
DeadmanwalkingXI said:
Okay, we're definitely gonna do some of that then. We're well set up for Capacity abuse, after all. Does the quality of the cup matter?

And how many cups can you make with one unit of clay? Logically it seems like more than one given the mass involved, but magic is also a factor, so I could see it being one per unit as well.
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Quality does not matter

One cup per unit
 
The Lone badger said:
You don't need to cork anything. Carry it empty, fill with Clearwater when you want to drink.
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That's too action-heavy for mid-fight, I think, and requires both hands free. Plus, it's still fragile pottery...dimensional storage seems the way to go, here...we can pull the same trick we do with shields and have it appear in out hand, quaff it, and drop it, since after being used it's just a Basic quality cup of non-magical clay.

Other people would have more issues doing it mid-fight, but could still carry them in their Fylgja for between-fight usage.
 
🤔 I wonder if there's anything we can do with healing or restful clay and a fermentation pocket...
 
I wonder if we can use the magic clay as fertilizer for plants. Like the warming clay for our Hearthroot Berries.

Is there enough Restful Clay that we could build a bed out of it?
 
Aabcehmu said:
🤔 Maybe sleeping on restful clay is how it gets recharged?
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If so, I'd expect people to know that...it has to have been tried before.

Blademaster said:
lets keep the entire hold of 450 resting clay. should be enough for the rest of Halla's life, the next character's life, and maybe his successor too
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I mean, once you start splitting it between 9 kids and a bunch of friends it goes somewhat quicker. 450 is still probably more than we need, it's true, but not as much as all that.

Shard said:
I mean, it could work. It would be worth a shot if it gave any kind of benefits whatsoever to sleeping.
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I mean...is it worth more than, conservatively, 200 consumables that restore your entire Orthstirr pool? Because that's the kind of exchange rate we're talking about. If we knew it worked and had real benefits, sure, but from context it sounds like it'd just make sleep twice as restful until the charge ran out, which might well be in less than a year. And that's the optimistic version. Maybe if combined with Runes we could work something out...

I'm still a bit dubious unless we can figure out a way to check or know what that does, and how much clay would be needed, but we can look into it.
 
DeadmanwalkingXI said:
If so, I'd expect people to know that...it has to have been tried before.
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That's true. I still think it might be possible though, if the rate of recharging is significantly slower than 1-to-1? Like, if sleeping on restful clay makes your sleep 1% less restful by absorbing that 1% of rest into itself, it'd take 100 days of sleeping on a weird, uncomfortable clay bed and waking up a little more groggy than normal before you recharged one cup's worth of clay. That's slow enough and unpleasant enough that I could definitely see most people not bothering to keep trying.
 
Aabcehmu said:
That's true. I still think it might be possible though, if the rate of recharging is significantly slower than 1-to-1? Like, if sleeping on restful clay makes your sleep 1% less restful by absorbing that 1% of rest into itself, it'd take 100 days of sleeping on a weird, uncomfortable clay bed and waking up a little more groggy than normal before you recharged one cup's worth of clay. That's slow enough and unpleasant enough that I could definitely see most people not bothering to keep trying.
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This is technically true. However, I suspect we wouldn't be willing to put that much effort into recharging it either, which makes me think it's not super relevant if it's really that hard.
 
DeadmanwalkingXI said:
This is technically true. However, I suspect we wouldn't be willing to put that much effort into recharging it either, which makes me think it's not super relevant if it's really that hard.
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Also true! But...if recharging is possible, then putting odr into it might serve as an effective alternative to sleeping on it for two turns, which would in turn make it into a tool to turn odr into orthstirr-restoration, which I don't know if we have yet.
 
DeadmanwalkingXI said:
I mean...is it worth more than, conservatively, 200 consumables that restore your entire Orthstirr pool? Because that's the kind of exchange rate we're talking about. If we knew it worked and had real benefits, sure, but from context it sounds like it'd just make sleep twice as restful until the charge ran out, which might well be in less than a year. And that's the optimistic version. Maybe if combined with Runes we could work something out...
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Well, the expending of the restful clay seems related to how it's effectively restoring your Orthstirr in one go. If you're not full recharging your Orthstirr, the expenditure of magical power should be a lot less. Benefits like 'more training exp' or 'more accurate dreams' would certainly be rather useful.
 
Shard said:
Well, the expending of the restful clay seems related to how it's effectively restoring your Orthstirr in one go. If you're not full recharging your Orthstirr, the expenditure of magical power should be a lot less. Benefits like 'more training exp' or 'more accurate dreams' would certainly be rather useful.
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If it did either of those things for a long enough time period, sure...I'm not sure we have good evidence it would, though. And it'd need to be kind of a long period in many cases. I mean, if it lasts a year or two and provides only Training XP, it'd need to be a lot of Training XP to be worth more than just buying some Food and sacrificing it.
 
Several dozen cups is more than Halla would plausibly need for the remainder of the Quest, given the frequency of big fights where we run out of orthstirr. Recharging them isn't really necessary IMO. However, stockpiling hundreds of these things might be extremely useful if we were handing them out to the assembled army of the Hading during a full-scale raid or war.

The healing clay also seems pretty nifty, although less useful specifically for Halla given her abilities.
 
Skippy said:
Several dozen cups is more than Halla would plausibly need for the remainder of the Quest, given the frequency of big fights where we run out of orthstirr. Recharging them isn't really necessary IMO. However, stockpiling hundreds of these things might be extremely useful if we were handing them out to the assembled army of the Hading during a full-scale raid or war.
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Even without providing them to everyone, giving at least a couple out to all our retainers and family members is very solid. But yeah, we definitely want to keep the majority of the Restful Clay one way or another, I think.
 
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