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NorseQuest (A Norse Xianxia)

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DeadmanwalkingXI said:
Yeah, as I went into above, I think this is a fundamental issue with its mentality. It believes past behavior is perfectly predictive...that's how we beat its bearer in a fight, by doing something new. So it thinks we're lying because we did that once which, in its mind, means we'll do it again.

We're not taking nid for lying per se, we're taking it for being called a liar unless we do something about it. That kind of insult demands a response in Norse culture. Explaining how we're not a liar and getting it to withdraw the accusation should work, hopefully.
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Oh hey, you are right, we should definitely mention how previous behavior doesn't guarantee current behavior, just look at how the fight we had with its previous wielder went!

Edit: oh, I looks like I should read the rest of the conversation, looks like someone else already said that.


[X] Deny the nid with your words
-[X] "I didn't say I hadn't taken you anywhere before, I said I wasn't here to take you anywhere else in the future. I know you predict people by their past, but I've surprised you by doing new things before...humans are not only the sum of our pasts, though it's an important part of us. Saying I will do something different going forward does not make it a lie."
 
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Scheduled vote count started by Imperial Fister on Oct 1, 2023 at 4:53 PM, finished with 24 posts and 9 votes.
  • [X] Deny the nid with your words
    -[X] "I didn't say I hadn't taken you anywhere before, I said I wasn't here to take you anywhere else in the future. I know you predict people by their past, but I've surprised you by doing new things before...humans are not only the sum of our pasts, though it's an important part of us. Saying I will do something different going forward does not make it a lie."
    [X] Accept the nid
    [X] Deny the nid with violence, destroying the sword-spirit in the process
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    • [X] Deny the nid with your words
    -[X] "I didn't say I hadn't taken you anywhere before, I said I wasn't here to take you anywhere else in the future. I know you predict people by their past, but I've surprised you by doing new things before...humans are not _only_ the sum of our pasts, though it's an important part of us. Saying I will do something different going forward does not make it a lie."
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    When faced with the threat of nid, you do all you can to avoid it. If you have to kill a man and feud with his entire family to avoid nid, then so be it. If you have to argue on technicalities to avoid nid, then so too be it.

    Summoning up every ounce of cleverness you've got rattling around in your head, you set to do just that.

    "I didn't say I hadn't taken you anywhere before," you point out the technicality serving as the crux of your argument, "I said that I wasn't here to take you anywhere else in the future."

    The sword is silent for a long while, seemingly mulling over your statement. Eventually, it begrudgingly relents, "Fine, heathen, I suppose you do speak the truth. I retract my statement."

    You breathe a sigh of relief as the nid dissipates away, returning to the nothingness it came from. As it does, something clicks in your head. Foreigners can't give nid, so why was the sword able to?

    "You said you had questions?" The sword prompts you from your thoughts.

    What questions do you ask it?
    [ ] Write in

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    AN: A bunch of short ones today, my apologies, but good work figuring it out. I'll go with the top five questions you folks ask.

    No moratorium, this is the last update for today as next update will likely be the last for the turn.
     
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    • DeadmanwalkingXI said:
    Yeah, as I went into above, I think this is a fundamental issue with its mentality. It believes past behavior is perfectly predictive...that's how we beat its bearer in a fight, by doing something new. So it thinks we're lying because we did that once which, in its mind, means we'll do it again.
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    Which we would, except for the fact that since we've already stolen it we now have it and therefore have no need to steal it again. We're not taking it anywhere because it's already where we want it to be.

    Question: Can something that is culturally norse but which is outside the law (like a troll or a witch) give nid?
     
    Wow, good recovery there, I'm glad we got ourselves out of that one.

    Anyway, we're introducing ourselves properly now, so let's go for the obvious. More complicated questions or negotiations can wait, I think.

    [X] "Hello, I'm Halla. What's your name?"
    [X] Ask about how it was forged, and how it came to be in the hands of the Squire we fought.
     
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    Silverking said:
    gaseeker Odr?
    Hmm, is this some ability inherent to all odr-infused beings, or was the sword originally Norse before being "converted" to Christianity?
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    I mean, we have no indication the sword is an Odr cultivator. And if it is its Norse so not a foreigner. If you mean zeal cultivator, most christian cultivators are zeal cultivatkrs and knights cant give nid.

    Though perhaps its the other? Odr cultivators being more suspectible to nid?

    On a completely different note can we try feeding sagaseeker Odr?
     
    Blademaster said:
    I mean, we have no indication the sword is an Odr cultivator. And if it is its Norse so not a foreigner. If you mean zeal cultivator, most christian cultivators are zeal cultivatkrs and knights cant give nid.

    Though perhaps its the other? Odr cultivators being more suspectible to nid?

    On a completely different note can we try feeding sagaseeker Odr?
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    We can try to feel out whether the ambient environment in the sword's soulscape is Orthstirr, Fervor, or some combination.
     
    Shard said:
    We can try to feel out whether the ambient environment in the sword's soulscape is Orthstirr, Fervor, or some combination.
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    I feel like if it could be determined like that, Halla would have made note of it. I think the more likely option is that this sword was just originally Norse made.
     
    Imperial Fister said:
    'The little flame is the... I'm not sure how to explain it other then that, when you get down to it, everything is heat. Controlling that heat is extremely difficult.'
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    Wait... an interesting little bit of weirdness with physics, heat is just the movement of stuff yeah? We can already call flame from a significant distance to us. We can control the flames we produce to some degree. Can we use that to make cold effects? Double wammy someone by pulling the heat from them, then hitting them with it? Is that a thing we could even attempt to do?

    I admit I don't really understand how technique creation works in this quest, but Halla has surely had someone touch her with cold feet because she was warm and noticed that made her cold so the idea that taking heat from something leaves that thing colder should be something she understands.

    I get that he just said controlling that heat is extremely difficult, but that seemed to reference the really small scale as opposed to the scale of people.

    [X] What's your saga, since you've been made what have you done, or been used to do?
     
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    [X] Ask about it's soulscape, how the soulscape was made, it's properties, and how it cultivates (if at all)
     
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