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May The Invisible Hand Be With You - (Star Wars CK2-Style Quest)

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Jack_Trade said:
It says great things about the galaxy's future under her shadowy reign.
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"You want to build what?"
"A Peace Moon"
"For what reason would ... give me the cost estimate, OPEX and CAPEX."
"Here. It's rather"
<grabs pad> "I see I see ... OUT! And if you ever come back with such a harebrained scheme to embezzel from ME, it's open season!"
 
MTB said:
"You want to build what?"
"A Peace Moon"
"For what reason would ... give me the cost estimate, OPEX and CAPEX."
"Here. It's rather"
<grabs pad> "I see I see ... OUT! And if you ever come back with such a harebrained scheme to embezzel from ME, it's open season!"
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I think Ciaran would just forgo the idea of a 'Peace Moon' and go straight for something like the 'Darksaber' which is essentially just the 'Peace Moon's' superlaser with engines strapped on it.

VicSage said:
Why would she? She's got more important things to be threatened by, like random Empire mook number J-86-7530-9. She'd carve through them on her way to the guy, and he's just got a pistol.
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Well that shiny armour of Phasma's would look fine in the vault.
 
Dr. Snark said:
Most of the B1s/B2s were on the heavier transports. Also the Hssiss droids were meant to soften up the Kaleesh lines before sending in the waves of mook droids.

At least that's the in-story idea. Out of story, it's just a much cooler way to kick off a fight :V
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It is a decent strategy compare to the usually one that the CIS use.
 
JAGwin said:
Here we go again . . . How many times does it need to be stated that Ciaran does not consider herself a Sith? Never has, almost certainly never will.
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Have we had that argument after Ciaran became the new Darth Traya? I honestly don't remember. I feel like we have, but eh.

I think a more accurate way of putting it is that she doesn't consider herself to be a traditional Sith. For reference, when she was talking to Anakin at the end of the Mortis arc she figured that most Sith would probably and accurately call her a heretic or something.

She's also actually a Baneite via technicality as Vectivus pointed out once - though in that case it's very much in name only.
 
How strong is the CNS in politicaly and military? Compare to the Republic and the CIS. Oh and congratulations your 900 for the story.
 
JAGwin said:
Here we go again . . . How many times does it need to be stated that Ciaran does not consider herself a Sith? Never has, almost certainly never will.
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Dr. Snark said:
Have we had that argument after Ciaran became the new Darth Traya? I honestly don't remember. I feel like we have, but eh.

I think a more accurate way of putting it is that she doesn't consider herself to be a traditional Sith. For reference, when she was talking to Anakin at the end of the Mortis arc she figured that most Sith would probably and accurately call her a heretic or something.

She's also actually a Baneite via technicality as Vectivus pointed out once - though in that case it's very much in name only.
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Asajj and Ciaran can be considered to be a resurgence of Revan's form of Sith tbqh, the latter has even set up a school where others can be taught and add to the knowledge that she had decided to share with the students.
 
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Stroth said:
Repeatedly. The general argument seems to be that Darth Traya isn't Sith because... well, no because they just say she isn't a Sith.
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Wrong.

Dr. Snark said:
"Then perhaps..." Traya muttered to herself. "While there are certainly others who have felt as you have from what I have seen you are likely the most successful of them. As such...yes, I believe you would be worthy."

"Of...?"

"Carrying the mantle of Darth Traya."

Ciaran took a step backwards in shock before recovering and narrowing her eyes. "I thought I made it clear that I am not a Sith."

"It is merely a title," Traya explained, "and given its history any who hear it would understand the implications of you using it." Ciaran was still glaring at Traya as she continued unabated. "When I was alive I too rejected the Jedi and the Sith, but I admit that in the end I became too reliant on the dark side. However you have managed to achieve a balance both in thought and spirit, and for that you are worthy of carrying on my legacy."

"I see..." Ciaran warily responded.

"Do with the title as you will, I give it to you because there must always be a Darth Traya.
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Ciaran outright says she is not a Sith, and Kreia tells her that the name "Darth Traya" is merely a title for someone who rejected both the Jedi and the Sith, which the QM has already said that Ciaran has (symbolically, at least) done.
 
Did you know there was elements force user group and is classified as a Dark side user like the Night Sisters. That the Order live them alone. They also don't like none visible force power. Example the force mind trick. They are like the benders in Avatar but with all the elements.
Why is the force lightning is a dark side power?
 
JAGwin said:
Wrong.


Ciaran outright says she is not a Sith, and Kreia tells her that the name "Darth Traya" is merely a title for someone who rejected both the Jedi and the Sith, which the QM has already said that Ciaran has (symbolically, at least) done.
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Firstly: That was when Ciaran barely had any training in the force at all and had very little idea what she was talking about. Since then she's investigated the deep secrets of the Sith and of the Dark Side. She's since embraced it to the point that she's capable of having a civil conversation with The Son for god sake.

Secondly: Traya is an evil version of the whole "Certain point of view" thing taken to extremes. Pay attention to what she actually says, not what it sounds like she says. "It is only a title." Yes. A Sith title. One that is among the most feared ever to exist to those learned enough to recognize it. Just a title, sure. But titles are very important, very powerful things.

"When I was alive I too rejected the Jedi and the Sith" That's true. She did reject their teachings in favor of thinking it would be best to just burn the whole system down. However she never actually stopped being a Sith. Hence: "I admit that in the end I became too reliant on the dark side." Though she considered the Sith teachings to be flawed and incomplete she still used them. If only because she didn't have any better tools.

And finally: "However you have managed to achieve a balance both in thought and spirit, and for that you are worthy of carrying on my legacy." Congratulations, you managed to tap into the dark side without going completely nuts, and I have literally no other options, so you're my apprentice now.

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Dr. Snark said:
I think a more accurate way of putting it is that she doesn't consider herself to be a traditional Sith. For reference, when she was talking to Anakin at the end of the Mortis arc she figured that most Sith would probably and accurately call her a heretic or something.
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Dr. Snark said:
I think it says something that all things considered, Ciaran would probably be one of the best people to train a Sith. I'm just not sure if it says more about Ciaran or more about the rest of the Sith...
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I think it says that Sith training should require a course or two in basic psychology. It might cut down on them deciding it's a great idea to abuse and torment people that they're in the process of teaching to be one of the most dangerous beings in the galaxy.
 
YCG said:
Did you know there was elements force user group and is classified as a Dark side user like the Night Sisters. That the Order live them alone. They also don't like none visible force power. Example the force mind trick. They are like the benders in Avatar but with all the elements.
Why is the force lightning is a dark side power?
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You're thinking of the Shapers of Kro Var. As for Force Lightning, it's considered Dark Side because its not actual electricity, its the users hate made manifest. It just -looks- like electricity. There is a similar looking Force power that isn't Dark Side, called Electric Judgement, which is actually channeling electricity.
 
Indalecio said:
You're thinking of the Shapers of Kro Var. As for Force Lightning, it's considered Dark Side because its not actual electricity, its the users hate made manifest. It just -looks- like electricity. There is a similar looking Force power that isn't Dark Side, called Electric Judgement, which is actually channeling electricity.
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Thanks for the info on that it make sence now and yeah that the group name. I just didn't know there group name.
 
Whumbly said:
Sidious: The Jedi Council will turn on you, they'll never permit a Sith Lord to remain alive.
Ciaran: They can be reasoned with.
Sidious: Are you so certain?
Ciaran: Blackmailed then.
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This has got to be my favourite of these banter lines. Because it is so Ciaran.

Is there an enemy force that you think has many good points, except for the fact they've set themselves up in opposition to you? Manipulate, or otherwise convince them into taking a position that benefits you without causing any problems that you don't mind. Can't do that? Forcefully manipulate/convince them into that position.

It's only if you still can't do that, or if they just create too many problems for the benefit they cause, that you get rid of them... Probably by breaking what exists in order to remake them in a more flexible/less outright opposed image, which now you can do the first two things to.
 
So I have just finished reading this from start to finish over like 1 and bit days, and I got to say it is darn good. Got a few questions though for anyone that knows.
1. Did we ever get around to finding Revan's old base on Nar Shaddaa that HK-47 knew about?
2. Why have we not gone after the Jensaarai yet? I mean a order that is still setting up traditions would be a great catch.
3. So, are we going to get Hapes involved, cause they are a really rich sector.

If i think of more questions, I will ask them later.
 
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