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So while we're waiting on Snark to update..

Been awhile since I did a memetic Mace omake. Any suggestions where I take it?
 
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(Omake) A Difficult Responsibility (Canon)
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    • A Difficult Responsibility​



    Galvin gave a grunt as he hefted the carapace from the trolley onto Galen Erso's workbench. "Try not to waste this. Those Taozin are stupidly difficult to dissect. At least we know this stuff lives up to the hype."

    "Thank you for getting me a sample to work with." said Galen, sparing Galvin a glance before looking down are the rough chunk of exoskeleton before him. "Having a sample small enough to run through the machines will really speed my research along. It's fascinating how anything you throw at them just… slips off."

    "Frustrating, more like." grouched Galvin. "I had to trade around a lot of favors to get access to the industrial presser that finally cracked a piece off. Even then I was worried I'd have to explain how in the galaxy I broke an industrial crusher."

    "Well it's appreciated." Galen grabbed the edges of the shell, and his eyes widened as he tried to lift it. "Oh dear." Galvin intercepted the scientist on the way to the floor, helping to lift the bit of Taozin. "Thank you. Right over there."

    Following the gesture Galen made with his head, the two carried their burden across the room, placing it under a scanning hood. Galen set the machine running, then let out a deep sigh. "That'll take a bit. Can I offer you something to drink while I wait?"

    "No thanks." Said Galvin, shaking his head. "What you can offer me is some answers. You know what we're going to use this stuff for, right? I thought you were super opposed violence or whatever."

    "Yes well, short of using it as a club, it would be hard to directly kill someone with that thing, so it's not technically a weapon. Of course, that's the kind of semantic argument that would make Lyra furious with me." Galen paused and paled. "If Lyra ever asks, this research is to create super durable mining vessels that can travel closer to a planet's core, understand?"

    "My lips are sealed."

    "Good. Truth is, I know that if I manage to synthesize taozin carapaces it'll be used as battle armor or something that will be used in the war." Galvin could hear the weight on the scientist's voice. "Thrawn even asked me to take a look at the nodules and their effects on the Force. Who knows what he'd do with that kind of information."

    "So then why do it at all? I'm not trying to talk you out of it or anything. I've certainly appreciated that Cheriss has had more free time since you showed up." Said Galvin, half joking. "It just seems to go against this whole pacifism thing you got going on."

    "I'm doing it because it's the most I trust myself to do. I'm no fool. If no one fought back against the tyrants, the galaxy would be a worse place. War is something to be avoided at all costs, but sometimes it's unavoidable. And then it's everyone's duty to end it as quickly as possible and restore peace."

    "So then why the 'no guns' rule? Do you secretly suck at making them?"

    Galen actually laughed at that. "On the contrary, it's because I'm terrified of what I could do if I walked down that road. Some of my research, if taken to extremes, could produce enough energy to destroy a planet with a realistic amount of time and resources. I don't make guns, because even if they ended this war in a day, it wouldn't lead to peace. It would lead to fear."

    "Are… are you serious about the planet destroying thing?"

    "I crunched the numbers back when I was in the Academy, just as a thought exercise. The hardest part would be building a space station big enough for the cannon." nodded Galen grimly. "This kind of research allows me to help end the war more quickly without jumping onto that slippery slope. Or at least, I hope it does."

    "So you make armor instead of guns to end the war faster without blowing up planets." Galvin whistled. "I don't think I'd have that kind of self-control."

    "Sometimes I wonder if I do either. It's agonizing every day, looking at all the suffering in the galaxy and thinking that I could end it. It can be difficult to remember that it wouldn't be an end to violence, but an end to peace."

    "See, this is why I'm a mercenary. I'm not cut out for all this moral crisis stuff." said Galvin, waving his hand dismissively as the scanner pinged an alert. "Well, that's my cue to get out of here before you ask for help moving it back." By the time Galen turned around from looking at the scanner's display, his boss's cousin had vanished.



    AN: IDK, some Galen stuff.
     
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    • So. How do we feel about propaganda, terror tactics, and false-flag operations (or double-false-flag operations)?

    Doing this with Silencer as a "clone trooper" and then showing it as a Clone Secret Ops thing under Isard's direction would be amazing for smearing him. A terror tactic designed to feed the Republic Propaganda Machine, ordered by the Republic's chief spymaster? That would look terribly suspicious.
     
    Barondoctor said:
    So. How do we feel about propaganda, terror tactics, and false-flag operations (or double-false-flag operations)?
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    Well, we already tried a false-flag operation (Jar Jar and Saboath Squadron derailed that into finding an actual threat), and I presume we're already putting out propaganda in our news outlet.

    Barondoctor said:
    Doing this with Silencer as a "clone trooper" and then showing it as a Clone Secret Ops thing under Isard's direction would be amazing for smearing him. A terror tactic designed to feed the Republic Propaganda Machine, ordered by the Republic's chief spymaster? That would look terribly suspicious.
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    Let's not. I know smearing Isard would benefit us, but this level of civilian casualties would cause more trouble than it's worth, especially since our action to get rid of him was already a crit-success.
     
    Barondoctor said:
    Doing this with Silencer as a "clone trooper" and then showing it as a Clone Secret Ops thing under Isard's direction would be amazing for smearing him. A terror tactic designed to feed the Republic Propaganda Machine, ordered by the Republic's chief spymaster? That would look terribly suspicious.
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    One way for us to stay out of the limelight, and work below the surface, would be to discredit Isard sufficiently (paint him as enough of a rogue operator) that Palpatine is the one to remove him from office -- either publicly as Supreme Chancellor disappointed by the actions of a public servant, or covertly as Darth Sidious expressing his displeasure at a malfunctioning tool.

    It wouldn't even need to be a destructive sort of 'false flag' -- if Isard was ordered to wreak havoc in a particular area, and his Covert Ops squads (aka the Silencer) acted surgically without much damage or casualties, then Palpatine might be persauded that Isard was not following orders. Keep this up, and Palpatine might do our work for us and remove his own spymaster from the equation.
     
    … Aaaaannnnnd finally caught up. Man, that took a while. What is that, like, 1000 pages between the two threads?:D
     
    Publicola said:
    One way for us to stay out of the limelight, and work below the surface, would be to discredit Isard sufficiently (paint him as enough of a rogue operator) that Palpatine is the one to remove him from office -- either publicly as Supreme Chancellor disappointed by the actions of a public servant, or covertly as Darth Sidious expressing his displeasure at a malfunctioning tool.

    It wouldn't even need to be a destructive sort of 'false flag' -- if Isard was ordered to wreak havoc in a particular area, and his Covert Ops squads (aka the Silencer) acted surgically without much damage or casualties, then Palpatine might be persauded that Isard was not following orders. Keep this up, and Palpatine might do our work for us and remove his own spymaster from the equation.
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    This does raise the question of whether we've limited our options by bringing in ostensibly good people in as heroes, is it just a matter of not putting them on missions they'd object to and they won't find out about it or do we run the risk of them finding out the next time we do something terrible?

    Regardless, I don't have confidence of keeping much away from Fry, but it's Galen Erso I'm more worried about, he's more clever than us, brave and committed to his ideals.
     
    Isard is one of those people who I'd say that no matter what we could do, ultimately we have to kill him. This is Palpatine's troubleshooter and arguably most useful of the inner circle for the purpose of subverting the Republic. Even if he gets sent to a maximum prison in the most isolated part of the Galaxy, I've no doubt that Palpatine would find a way for him run Republic Intelligence from inside his cell. So he has to die.

    Of course, it's not just killing him. It's crippling RI's ability to function as a intelligence network. Arguably the best way to do this is have Jango and co assassinate Isard as Clone Troopers and then pull a wikileaks on RI, ensuring the public gets to know every little detail they've done to 'protect the Republic'.
     
    Whumbly said:
    Isard is one of those people who I'd say that no matter what we could do, ultimately we have to kill him. This is Palpatine's troubleshooter and arguably most useful of the inner circle for the purpose of subverting the Republic. Even if he gets sent to a maximum prison in the most isolated part of the Galaxy, I've no doubt that Palpatine would find a way for him run Republic Intelligence from inside his cell. So he has to die.

    Of course, it's not just killing him. It's crippling RI's ability to function as a intelligence network. Arguably the best way to do this is have Jango and co assassinate Isard as Clone Troopers and then pull a wikileaks on RI, ensuring the public gets to know every little detail they've done to 'protect the Republic'.
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    A la the end of winter soldier? Perhaps complete with helmet removal instead of mask removal?
     
    Barondoctor said:
    A la the end of winter soldier? Perhaps complete with helmet removal instead of mask removal?
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    I was thinking something more along the lines of Beyond Good and Evil's call for uprising. Consider RI has ultimate control over the holonet since it was nationalised, why not use it to broadcast the evidence?

    By the way, achievement idea time:

    Turn 29 Achievements Ideas

    Astra Militarum:     Turn the CNS militia into an actual military.
    Hello There: Recruit Obi-Wan Kenobi and the 212th Attack Battalion into the Anti-Palpatine Conspiracy.
    Guns of Ossus: Recruit the Ysanna.
    Quintuple Agent: Recruit Quinlan Vos.
    Death Commandos: Aquire Noghri Bodyguards.
    Hand of Thrawn: Construct an Interdictor Vessel.
    Digital Enhancement: Recruit Chairman Paponoida and his media empire.
    Shoo Shu: Dispose of Shu Mai.
    Counting on the Count: Unlock Dooku's full support.
    Moonbreaker: Complete Operation Moonbreaker (Silencer's attack on the hidden cloning labs)
    The Banality Of Evil: Complete Operation Frostline (assassination of Armand Isard)
    Refraction: Learn the skills of the Disciples of Twilight.
    Freemaker: Discover the ancient techniques of the Force Builders.
    Mint Condition: Secure the Jebble Box.
    Forget-Me-So: Unlock the full potentials of the Taozin.
    I Have Altered The Deal: Show Talzin who's in charge.
    Come into my Parlour: Defeat Supreme Commander Trench.
    Knights of the Old Training Grounds: Have HK-47 develop an Anti-Force training programme.
     
    Since that list reminded me:




    I haven't had as much time as I'd like to work on her, but I've got the overall design down now. The things left are mostly detail work and nailing down how I want the engines to be set up. Also adding in secondaries.

    Her primary loadout, by the way, is:

    1 Dual Heavy Turbolaser (same as on a Venator)

    4 Dual Medium Turbolasers


    Will she be beating a Star Destroyer head on? No. On the other hand, she'll be able to run down and kill anything smaller. And is a damn sight more heavily armed than an Immobilizer or the canon-equivalent is. Which I think is fitting for a super-prototype in this timeframe when ISD's are brand new ships.

    (Like I said, still working out secondaries and anti-fighter stuff)

    Snark can decide on using her or not using her and what the name of the ship would be :V
     
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    Skywalker_T-65 said:
    Since that list reminded me:




    I haven't had as much time as I'd like to work on her, but I've got the overall design down now. The things left are mostly detail work and nailing down how I want the engines to be set up. Also adding in secondaries.

    Her primary loadout, by the way, is:

    1 Dual Heavy Turbolaser (same as on a Venator)

    4 Dual Medium Turbolasers


    Will she be beating a Star Destroyer head on? No. On the other hand, she'll be able to run down and kill anything smaller. And is a damn sight more heavily armed than an Immobilizer or the canon-equivalent is. Which I think is fitting for a super-prototype in this timeframe when ISD's are brand new ships.

    (Like I said, still working out secondaries and anti-fighter stuff)

    Snark can decide on using her or not using her and what the name of the ship would be :V
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    Why not just use the Immobilizer design? And the have the super ship add the turbolasers?
     
    Immobilizer is still a ways off. A long ways off.

    quoteth the Wook said:
    The Interdictor cruisers were first manufactured by Sienar Fleet Systems two years before the Battle of Yavin.
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    Emphasis mine. We'd be pulling an X-Wing to use the Immobilizer, and it's too small to power both the grav wells and any actual heavy weapons. My design is in the Venator size range and it can still only handle a fraction of the firepower because Grav Wells of Seinar design are that power hungry.
     
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