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The main difference between sane people and overzealous monk wanabies: only one of them offers real choice
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May The Invisible Hand Be With You - (Star Wars CK2-Style Quest)
- Thread starter Dr. Snark
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- Sci-Fi
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- star wars canon what canon tsundere dice ck2 quest actions have consequences all the credits all work and no play makes ciaran a dull girl best sister capitalism ho! despairing qm teetotaller society member gotta catch 'em all insanity looting off the rails sage dice approaching spicy sheev tsundere asajj
Killerflood
Corporal Cannonfodder
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- Saṃsāra
Nope, that has been dealt with. A fake identity is now seen on the paper(?holo-?)work. I based part of my lower deck omake (which is now Canon which is the only reason I am assuming to correct you) on the basis that we criticaled the counter-blackmail and I assumed the fact Ciaran was the founder of a Mercenary Group would be a little shifty. So that was dealt with along with everything else.
Anyone who has dealt with us while we worked with the Watcher's can probably put two-and-two together though. Anakin, Obi-Wan, Siri, and pretty much anyone during Padme's assassination attempt fiasco and thus the High Council too likely knows even if it is not currently important right now.
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- Latvia, Riga
Oh, btw ShadowNic94 had an interesting edited Je'daii code emphasising balance
Where is it posted?
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- Australia
Balance is not good. Balance is neutrality - a midpoint between good and evil, but not good itself.
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- his hidden lair
See, that's the problem. You use the scale as a measure of good or evil, when it's not (here at least). It's a scale between passion and serenity. Balance in that is a good thing.
Can we please not go back to this debate. Dr. Snark has mentioned several times before that he doesn't want to go back to this conversation. He could get a mod to lock this thread down or worst, decide to cancel the quest because of all the arguing.
Trust me, I have seen plenty of authors and QMs who quit because of repeated arguments that go nowhere.
Trust me, I have seen plenty of authors and QMs who quit because of repeated arguments that go nowhere.
About that, is it possible to have multiple people just set up a conversation and just debate there if they insist on continuing the debate?
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So, I'm going to have enough free time tomorrow to make an omake. I have two ideas, both of which star Jango Fett prominently. Would people rather see "Contract Violation" wherein Manda'lor the Resurgent "discusses" an old contract with Darth Tyranus. Or "Resume" where he interviews a new recruit with a suspiciously familiar face.
[jk] Both
...I'm really torn, but I think I'd prefer to see "Resume," if only to introduce that "new recruit" who might be fodder for a future Hero action (...)
"Contract Violation" sounds fun and revenge porn-y, but I doubt our approach to dealing with Dooku would be to throw Jango at him. And I'm a sucker for omakes have canon potential.
...I'm really torn, but I think I'd prefer to see "Resume," if only to introduce that "new recruit" who might be fodder for a future Hero action (...)
"Contract Violation" sounds fun and revenge porn-y, but I doubt our approach to dealing with Dooku would be to throw Jango at him. And I'm a sucker for omakes have canon potential.
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Throwing Jango at him would actually be a surprisingly good idea. Dooku exclusively specializes in Form II, which is explicitly based on real world fencing. Its designed for 1 on 1 duels with unarmored melee opponents. Now he's good enough that these shortcomings aren't usually a problem, but Jango is Mand'alor. If there is anyone who can make Dooku's lifelong focus on unarmored lightsaber duels bite him in the ass, its gotta be the Mand'alor.
There was one turn where if we didn't have omakes, we would have tanked HARD.
NexysDhyArchen
Throne Breaker
I think it was the... second? turn where we had max omake bonus? One of the early omake turns was one where literally every choice was either a failure or bare success. That turn resulted in the tsundice label.
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- Everywhere and Nowhere
Cool quest
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- Australia
So there simply being a bad turn automatically means a game has tsundere dice?
Well the one turn I could think off the top of my head, there are others, but I'll need to look back on the thread
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- Australia
The point is that bad turns happen, and that doesn't automatically mean a game has tsundere dice. There has to be something else besides that.
Well we seem to have rather dramatic shifts with this quest in terms of how well things go. Looks at last turn, we would have failed about six actions and they were vital such as the Codebreaker or reactivating HK-47. And looking at this turn, it's just a few normal successes, crits, super crits, and a Insane crit in comparison.
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... As @Karugus said, Balance is not something JUST between good and evil, but also between other dualities, + like Ideal it's a semi-fluid concept that changes
in his .... was that signature? the part below comment and above (Like, hug, etc)?
Here:
There is no Ignorance; there is Knowledge,
There is no Fear; there is Power,
I am the Heart of the Force,
I am the revealing Fire of Light, I am the eternal Mystery of Darkness,
In Balance with Chaos and Harmony, Immortal in the Force - The Je'daii Code (slightly edited)
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- Northern Ireland, UK
What the What?! Shocked to see my old (made it when I first joined for a laugh) signature being brought into the discussion.
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- Tromso, Norway.
It's very... I want to say chunni but I'm not sure that's the right word, point is that it sounds like something you'd see in a comic book (Probably because it did come from a comic book) rather than an actual reasonable moral code. It's those three lines at the end that do it I think.
lordchaos99
(I have left SV)
Yeah, that is not a code like the Jedi. Or even like the Sith.
The Jedi cleanly espouse the basic tenets of their religion, denying certain aspects of the self and the world to pursue the opposition (Emotion, Peace. Passion, Serenity. Chaos, Harmony etc.) culminating in a rejection of mortality itself, that you simply become one with the Force.
Concise, horrible, but concise.
The Sith's counter is a path to success. It begins by rejecting Peace, the first of the Jedi's commands (this fits with the Sith being forged to counter the Jedi, by former members). Then it's their path to power. Passion to Strength, which is how they channel the Dark Side. Strength in the Force becomes Power in whichever form they desire. Which they use to win at the goal they had set. Which breaks their limitations. And they are free because they are Force Sensitives who use the Dark Side.
A chain of victory, which is exactly what the Sith promise, and what they deliver although the true chain is very different it is still fundamentally a series of steps (a slippery staircase)
Compared to the Jed'aii Code above, which looks like a mashup.
There is no Ignorance, there is Knowledge. - the call to seek knowledge
There is no Fear; there is Power. - What? This is not an opposition. This can only work in a Green Lantern's code or someone else whose powerset is weakened by being afraid.
I am the Heart of the Force. - Kreia used this metaphorically to represent Revan's immense power in comparison to every other Force Sensitive. This doesn't belong in an in-verse Code
I am the revealing Fire of Light, I am the eternal Mystery of Darkness. - A nice poetic sound, but means nothing beyond 'balance between Light and Dark' Fire and Mystery do not go together, even if you call it Revealing Fire. Revealing Fire and Mysterious Shadow maybe? Either way, overly poetic compared to the relatively spartan Jedi and Sith (which uses No X, Y // X then Y. Y then Z)
In Balance with Chaos and Harmony, Immortal in the Force - Two points in one, pick one or split into two expanded lines. The first is just a repeat of the previous line while the second is the end of the Jedi Code but lacking in the 'capstone of philosophy' the prior two have.
Either way, fun read not actually a good in-verse Philosophy or all that similar to the previous 2.
The Jedi cleanly espouse the basic tenets of their religion, denying certain aspects of the self and the world to pursue the opposition (Emotion, Peace. Passion, Serenity. Chaos, Harmony etc.) culminating in a rejection of mortality itself, that you simply become one with the Force.
Concise, horrible, but concise.
The Sith's counter is a path to success. It begins by rejecting Peace, the first of the Jedi's commands (this fits with the Sith being forged to counter the Jedi, by former members). Then it's their path to power. Passion to Strength, which is how they channel the Dark Side. Strength in the Force becomes Power in whichever form they desire. Which they use to win at the goal they had set. Which breaks their limitations. And they are free because they are Force Sensitives who use the Dark Side.
A chain of victory, which is exactly what the Sith promise, and what they deliver although the true chain is very different it is still fundamentally a series of steps (a slippery staircase)
Compared to the Jed'aii Code above, which looks like a mashup.
There is no Ignorance, there is Knowledge. - the call to seek knowledge
There is no Fear; there is Power. - What? This is not an opposition. This can only work in a Green Lantern's code or someone else whose powerset is weakened by being afraid.
I am the Heart of the Force. - Kreia used this metaphorically to represent Revan's immense power in comparison to every other Force Sensitive. This doesn't belong in an in-verse Code
I am the revealing Fire of Light, I am the eternal Mystery of Darkness. - A nice poetic sound, but means nothing beyond 'balance between Light and Dark' Fire and Mystery do not go together, even if you call it Revealing Fire. Revealing Fire and Mysterious Shadow maybe? Either way, overly poetic compared to the relatively spartan Jedi and Sith (which uses No X, Y // X then Y. Y then Z)
In Balance with Chaos and Harmony, Immortal in the Force - Two points in one, pick one or split into two expanded lines. The first is just a repeat of the previous line while the second is the end of the Jedi Code but lacking in the 'capstone of philosophy' the prior two have.
Either way, fun read not actually a good in-verse Philosophy or all that similar to the previous 2.
Apparently the Je'daii were kinda shit at explaining their philosophical principles or even defining what it meant to be Je'daii.
...That probably played a part in their eventual schism and effective extinction with the rise of the Jedi and Sith.
...That probably played a part in their eventual schism and effective extinction with the rise of the Jedi and Sith.