So, why does the Son wants to kill us? I mean, we are technically invited as well, right? Since the Force actually pushing us to be there as well.
 
This must be karma for all those times Ciaran sent Obi Wan on wild goose chases across wacky planets. :p

Also, would we be able to make our Lightsaber in this interlude ?
 
So, why does the Son wants to kill us? I mean, we are technically invited as well, right? Since the Force actually pushing us to be there as well.

He is a Force Entity. Ciaran has the power to shatter the Force, consciously or unconsciously, to subtly reshape reality so that a bunch of little things cause a big divergence. In a place that changes according to the wills of the Force, what do you think Ciaran could do to it?
 
So, why does the Son wants to kill us? I mean, we are technically invited as well, right? Since the Force actually pushing us to be there as well.

Son wanted Ashoka/Anakin to work for the dark side

Daughter wanted Obi-wan/Anakin to work for the light side

Father wanted Anakin to keep his crazy fucking kids in line

Don't think the Mother is here (I really fucking hope she isn't here)

So we might have been invited but it's a toss up who did it. The Son and Daughter would probably kill us both because they're crazy at the best of times, and the father might want to use us as a backup plan should Anakin decide he doesn't want to be shackled to these two morons for all eternity.
 
Son wanted Ashoka/Anakin to work for the dark side

Daughter wanted Obi-wan/Anakin to work for the light side

Father wanted Anakin to keep his crazy fucking kids in line

Don't think the Mother is here (I really fucking hope she isn't here)

So we might have been invited but it's a toss up who did it. The Son and Daughter would probably kill us both because they're crazy at the best of times, and the father might want to use us as a backup plan should Anakin decide he doesn't want to be shackled to these two morons for all eternity.
Thankfully the Mother isn't here, she's locked up on the planet that was originally their home.
 
Seduce the Daughter Ciaran, it is your purpose!
Since she likes to collect things and power then having the powerful pure being of the light as her waifu would be the ultimate prestige. Of course this more winning the heart than her usual stuff.
 
Seduce the Daughter Ciaran, it is your purpose!
Since she likes to collect things and power then having the powerful pure being of the light as her waifu would be the ultimate prestige. Of course this more winning the heart than her usual stuff.
Of course! We do need someone to bring with us for the double dates with Padme and Anakin.
 
He is a Force Entity. Ciaran has the power to shatter the Force, consciously or unconsciously, to subtly reshape reality so that a bunch of little things cause a big divergence. In a place that changes according to the wills of the Force, what do you think Ciaran could do to it?
Open a crack allowing the kids to reunite with their mommy? I mean, seeing as they moved from their homeworld to Mortis, I would expect that there would be some echo in the force where Morris origionally split off from their home, so using shatterpoint on said location would likely cause Mortis to merge with their homeworld once more.
 
I do wonder exaclty how the dark side embodiment thing works. I thought the dark side was usually when a force user drew too deeply on emotion and distorted their minds, less a concrete force and more a way to trade sanity for raw power. So does the son represent that? an echo of all the poor fools who destroyed their minds for power? or does he represent a more balanced view where he is simply passion?
 
Plaguis' problems with Ciaran also come from the fact that she's a threat to the entire Baneite plan. Should Ciaran triumph over the Baneite Sith she will, by default, be Dark Lord.

From her the next iteration of Sith will come, whether formally in training new Darths or from a student deciding to take up the legacy.
Regardless, the nature of the Sith will be changed, content to rule from the shadows more bound to political and economic power than past Sith.

The Sith will be far more controlled, less directed by their passions and the Dark Side.
Ciaran is a threat to very soul of the Sith, any Sith who cares about the 'purity' of the way of the Sith would be enraged at the thought of Ciaran triumphing.

So it's no wonder Plaguis wants us dead, that something of his creation might fundamentally destroy what he's worked for.
Not to mention resentment at watching Ciaran's 'wasted' potential as an asset and apprentice.

He watches Sidious waste time with Dooku when he could have snatched up the young and talented woman who built a shadow empire.
What could have been must be driving Plaguis mad.
 
I do wonder exaclty how the dark side embodiment thing works. I thought the dark side was usually when a force user drew too deeply on emotion and distorted their minds, less a concrete force and more a way to trade sanity for raw power. So does the son represent that? an echo of all the poor fools who destroyed their minds for power? or does he represent a more balanced view where he is simply passion?
There's two Sources of infinite force power somewhere on their home planet, one attuned to the Light Side and one attuned to the Dark Side: The Font of Power and The Pool of Knowledge. You can only use one of them because using both turns you into The Mother. Guess which one The Son and The Daughter each used.
 
right, but so far we seem to be going with the assumption that the dark side is just using the force in a way that fucks with your head, not a distinct part of the force. Or are their two different things being called the darkside?
 
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I do wonder exaclty how the dark side embodiment thing works. I thought the dark side was usually when a force user drew too deeply on emotion and distorted their minds, less a concrete force and more a way to trade sanity for raw power. So does the son represent that? an echo of all the poor fools who destroyed their minds for power? or does he represent a more balanced view where he is simply passion?

I vaguely recall this.

At one point, he represented a more balanced view. Not Balanced, but less crazy than he currently is.

Then there was the business with the mother going crazy and I think he essentially consumed himself in his own darkness, leaving him to represent the darkness as the Jedi currently view it.

Don't take this as canon though, this is half-remembered memories mixed in with memories of fanfiction. I'm fairly sure that I'm at least partially wrong if not entirely.
 
Ciaran's thoughts trailed off as she began to look around with her Force vision and saw nothing but white. It was unlike anything she had ever seen before; not even her time on Nam Chorios had blinded her to this degree

Don't see Force Sight being all that useful here, what with it just being constantly blinding.

Ciaran took off her visor so she could see properly.

Should we meet up with the others that might provoke some questions. Questions like 'since when do you have eyes?'

"A realm that you do not belong in, 'Traya.'"

On reflex, Ciaran ignited her lightfoil and pointed it at the ethereal figure in a dark robe that had just appeared who simply laughed mockingly. "Do not bother. As much as I wish I could kill you myself at this point neither of us are capable of harming each other."

Ciaran continued to point her lightfoil at the figure. "And who exactly are you?" she asked, and the figure laughed mockingly in response. "You should show some respect, girl. Your Force abilities, your prominence in the galaxy...all of that came about because of my favor. You would be nothing without me."

So, uh, Plagueis isn't very happy with Ciaran.

"From a certain point of view, yes. However I much prefer my true title." the figure said, throwing off his hood revealing the features of a Muun. "I am Plagueis." He looked down at Ciaran, hatred clearly visible in his eyes. "And had I been given the chance you would be calling me Master at this very moment."

And I think the Traya thing might be why. He was happy when he was manipulating her to perform the perfect Sith revenge on his apprentice who betrayed him. He had no problem with her being manipulative and controlling things from the shadows. He has a problem with her not going the classic Sith route, and becoming the apprentice he could be proud of (right before stabbing Palpatine in HIS name)

Though your presence here in particular is admittedly...confusing

Yeah no kidding. Issue is I don't see any reason why any of the three would want Ciaran here. The Father wants Anakin to replace him, and I doubt he'd think Ciaran would encourage him to do that. The Daughter wants to preserve the Status Quo (typical light sider), and there's no way you'd choose Ciaran for that. The Son wants to kill the Father and escape, and given his attitude when we saw him just then...I don't think so. I don't even know if any of the Three even knows Ciaran is even here. Like sure, the Son came looking for whoever crashed, but I don't think he necessarily knew it was Ciaran. I'm concerned and intrigued by the possibility that the Mother managed to wrangle things so that Ciaran could get in. She's imprisoned but she's not totally powerless and she's the one most likely to gain by dropping a wild card like Ciaran into the situation.

Another reason I don't see the Father, or the other two inviting Ciaran. The previous Traya tried to kill the Force itself. That's not the sort of thing that gets your successor put on the christmas card list of living embodiments of that self-same force.

Doing everything she could to ensure that Buried Presence would hide her (and getting the feeling that using the technique was easier somehow),

Interesting, interesting.

Kreia puts on the wise old woman act before admitting that she's just winging it

Kreia: Look, okay, straight up? I haven't got a fucking clue what's going on.
 
Son wanted Ashoka/Anakin to work for the dark side

Daughter wanted Obi-wan/Anakin to work for the light side

Father wanted Anakin to keep his crazy fucking kids in line

Don't think the Mother is here (I really fucking hope she isn't here)

So we might have been invited but it's a toss up who did it. The Son and Daughter would probably kill us both because they're crazy at the best of times, and the father might want to use us as a backup plan should Anakin decide he doesn't want to be shackled to these two morons for all eternity.
Why do I have the image of our girl chewing out the father, son and daughter about their behavior and claiming to have been called/chosen/picked by the realm/Mortis itself because the three of them were being stupid. Only later do Obi-wan, Ashoka and Anakin realize the the three powerful force being kept calling her Traya.
 
She's imprisoned but she's not totally powerless and she's the one most likely to gain by dropping a wild card like Ciaran into the situation.
Not really? I mean even if this whole place goes to hell somehow, it's not going to get her out of The Maw.
Questions like 'since when do you have eyes?'
"Who is this Lady Ciaran you keep confusing my with? Obviously if she doesn't have eyes then I can't possibly be her since I do in fact have eyes."

Weird thing is that might actually work. Ciaran is a Miraluka. Traya is demonstrably not a Miraluka. It's kind of an important point. You can't just dismiss it.
 
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Should we meet up with the others that might provoke some questions. Questions like 'since when do you have eyes?'

Mortis is odd. With that understatement, it wouldn't be that hard a sell to say, "Since I woke up in a crash here?"

Considering neither had a crippling injury that wasn't replaced, they may believe it is a property of the planet. It's not that unbelievable compared to some of the things they'll see.
 
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