May The Invisible Hand Be With You - (Star Wars CK2-Style Quest)
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"SHE'S A SITH, KILL HER!"
Akasha
The Only Truth
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- 「̛̛́́ ͏̨҉̕͏ ͏̶̴」
"Wait, what? That can't be right. There are only two Sith at any given time, and neither of them is female..."
Tremble, Galaxy, Darth Traya walks among you again.
It's quite fitting really, Ciaran has been betrayed and abandoned herself, heck for all how much he's loved Silas did leave a young girl alone in the Coruscant Undercity and Dooku certainly betrayed Ciaran in his attempts to control and blackmail her.
Ciaran herself has been consistently betraying the people who hail her and laud her as a hero pretty much non-stop! Naboo loves her and she plundered their planet and got a bloody Hutt crime lord away from justice! The republic loves her as a paragon of virtue when she's spent years helping the Trad Federation escape justice and has been spreading corruption and crime across the Galaxy, enacting death and destruction at her command to control the criminal underworld.
Every day, with every 'virtuous' act she betrays others.
I do like that Ciaran has been forced to acknowledge the Force as something more than just an energy field, that it is something intrinsic to life itself and being confronted with a shadow of Darth Nihilus, goodness our girl has some formidable courage and willpower doesn't she?
It's quite fitting really, Ciaran has been betrayed and abandoned herself, heck for all how much he's loved Silas did leave a young girl alone in the Coruscant Undercity and Dooku certainly betrayed Ciaran in his attempts to control and blackmail her.
Ciaran herself has been consistently betraying the people who hail her and laud her as a hero pretty much non-stop! Naboo loves her and she plundered their planet and got a bloody Hutt crime lord away from justice! The republic loves her as a paragon of virtue when she's spent years helping the Trad Federation escape justice and has been spreading corruption and crime across the Galaxy, enacting death and destruction at her command to control the criminal underworld.
Every day, with every 'virtuous' act she betrays others.
I do like that Ciaran has been forced to acknowledge the Force as something more than just an energy field, that it is something intrinsic to life itself and being confronted with a shadow of Darth Nihilus, goodness our girl has some formidable courage and willpower doesn't she?
Clearly Sidious is a woman under a bathrobe and a voice changer
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- Asia
Damn ! the writing was on point in this update.
So we Shatterpointed our way into learning about Shatterpoint ?
So we Shatterpointed our way into learning about Shatterpoint ?
Damn ! the writing was on point in this update.
So we Shatterpointed our way into learning about Shatterpoint ?
In a sense.
Kriea is probably the only -one- out of a handful of Force Users who can 'see' the effects of using Shatterpoint/Fracture on -actual events- which is supposedly very hard to do because the present is constantly changing, meaning that the Shatterpoint/Fractures are usually small and don't last long.
She has probably 'seen' what happens if she doesn't teach Ciaran and 'seen' what happens when she does teach Ciaran.
Then she decided that teaching her would/could lead to to a better end.
Kriea has probably worked out that having Ciaran swing around that kind of ability around reflexively wouldn't end too well for the people around her, which would negatively effect Ciaran....and so on and so on.
Kriea deals a lot with probability when she does that thing.....I think?
It's kinda hard to figure out if she does see the future.....
UbeOne
Daydreaming CPU
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Kreia already answered your question.
'Darth Traya' rejects the Sith and the Jedi, Darth Traya is a heretic who denies a binary choice, Darth Traya seeks to understand and act free of the chains of ignorance and idealism, Darth Traya will betray.
Any Sith or Jedi Master worth their salt who hears about someone calling themselves 'Darth Traya' will know they're not dealing with an average Sith Lord, they're dealing with someone who rejects either path and seeks to challenge the Orthodoxy of how the Force is understood.
There'll also be some worry given that the first Darth Traya tried to deafen the Galaxy to the Force and was a supremely dangerous person outside of her mastery of the Force, incidentally her and her disciples are one of the Sith groups who nearly destroyed the Jedi outright.
But yeah, anyone who does the slightest research will know that this isn't a declaration of lordship.
Akasha
The Only Truth
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So long as we're not trying to build yet ANOTHER Sith Empire or exterminate the Jedi AGAIN, we're golden.
That being said, if a guy can get 8 stat points from having a grandchild, I expect the title to provide some VERY nifty stat boosts. Well, I hope it will do so. Our Lore stat is pathetic. Actually, all of our stats are pathetic, and they will remain as such until they get to the upper 60s.
That being said, if a guy can get 8 stat points from having a grandchild, I expect the title to provide some VERY nifty stat boosts. Well, I hope it will do so. Our Lore stat is pathetic. Actually, all of our stats are pathetic, and they will remain as such until they get to the upper 60s.
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That shatterpoint ability.... wow just wow. We need to train that every turn until we master it.
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Well let us see what shinies this new title will net us.
@Dr. Snark
I am guessing that whatever stat upgrades we get due to this won't be counted with regard to that trait (Rival?) of Ventress, which lets her catch up to Ciaran.
It would be kinda hard to explain away that because "Darth" is a very unique title.
@Dr. Snark
I am guessing that whatever stat upgrades we get due to this won't be counted with regard to that trait (Rival?) of Ventress, which lets her catch up to Ciaran.
It would be kinda hard to explain away that because "Darth" is a very unique title.
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I wonder if we can pick up Dark transfer. That's a technique that's related to shatterpoints and can be used with both sides of the force.
It's the one darth title you can get without being a sith.
Dragontrapper
Homeless Draconis
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My thoughts exactly. And we aren't just any Sith* - we're a Discordian Sith*. (In the 'rejecting the usual 'order/chaos dichotomy in order to create rather then destroy... usually' sort of way.)
* - Not actually a Sith. Possession of 'Darth Traya' title does not entitle you to Sith discounts. Offer Void on Ukio.
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trooperist
Cinnamon Roll AI
Excellent interlude for Malichor. I think you got Kreia just right.
I played this the whole time. It seemed right to when learning from Kreia again.
I played this the whole time. It seemed right to when learning from Kreia again.
(Omake) Druken Philosophy at 3 AM (Canon)
Diomedea
A piece of the continent
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Excerpt from Lady Ciaran's late night dictations, stored in folder "Drunken Ramblings at 3:00am"
-my greater point being that all these are traps. They force you into a way of thinking, a way of dealing with the force, that is not only limited but also fragile. A Jedi, when confronted with the darkside in a manner that they cannot strike it down, inevitably fall. A Sith who is forced to face the fact that there is power beyond pain, hate, and anger almost always consumes themselves in trying to match it.
Even those outside of the Jedi and Sith are not immune to such things. I initially thought the force a tool, something I could pick up when I needed it and then put down when I was done with it. Yet the truth I was forced to face is that the force is always with us. I don't mean that in some shallow platitude, but a fundamental truth. The Jedi knew this once, but have buried behind centuries of dogma and riddle "The Force is with me, and I am one with the Force." The force is with all creatures, in some manner or fashion. It is inescapable, and always present. You may not be using it, you may not feel it as most never feel it, but it is always there.
Anyway, I don't mean to talk about how the force is some creeper watching you. That isn't it at all. Getting back to the trap thing, there is another response, beyond just shattering in the face of knew knowledge. You can do what I did instead, and what the greatest force users, like Revan and Meetra did. You can grow. There's a hint there, I think.
Growing isn't always easy. I once spoke with a spirit of sorts of the Darth Traya, who once was known as Kreia, and before you say anything, shut up! I'm not a Sith! Anytime I mention anyone called Darth it's alwa-
*pause in the recording as Lady Ciaran consumes another drink*
Anyway, what was I talking about? Oh right, Darth Traya and how growing is hard. She's pretty weird. Anyway, I talked to her ghost thingy once, so I looked into her more. She decided that the force was some sort of cosmic see-saw, going back and forth between Light and Dark and Light and Dark, causing all these stupid, costly wars. So, how to end this eternal cycle of conflict? Kill the force! I have to admire the sheer audacity of her goals, but even she grew into a trap. The answer to something you cannot escape, and cannot truly control, that everyone has, is not to kill it. I mean, it is an answer, but it's the answer of the grave, of giving up.
So, what is the force? All the pieces are there. Look how the force users live their lives, and where they trip up. The Jedi try to deny they have emotions, which is bullshit. I've met some great Jedi, and let me tell you, they got feelings, but since they wont admit that they're just hilariously terrible at them. Like, Obi-wan. He's got two ladies hanging off him, and-
*skipping forward over irrelevant gossip*
What was the point again? Right, Jedi only pretend there isn't emotion. The Sith, rebelling against the Jedi, try to pretend that emotion is all there is. Anyone who has ever dealt with someone with a quick temper knows how easy it is to lead that type of person by the nose. And it must get exhausting, to do nothing but wallow in your emotions, day in, day out, for years. They completely miss reason, thought, creativity, except as a means for furthering their emotions. They miss the value these things have in themselves.
So if the force is so wide and vast, what is it really? It's present wherever we go, and always with us. It encompasses both dispassionate thought, and the strongest of emotions. The last hint was provided to me by Darth Traya. She showed me a vision of the Sith every Miraluka knows, Darth Nihilus. We know him as the great life-stealer, the all consuming maw. Yet I saw what he did, and he was eating the force.
It should be clear by now, but I think it should be said. The Force is life itself. Life. It's why it is so varied, so deep. Why the Jedi and Sith keep failing, because they try to deny entire aspects of living, why it can't be a tool, because living is something you do. There are always going to be disagreements and differences, just like no two people's lives are the same. Yet most people in the galaxy manage not to murder each other because they're not living the same life, though now I think about it, enough do that the whole kill all sith, kill all jedi thing shouldn't be surprising.
Just like life, there isn't one answer to the force. You gotta figure out what path works for you, and maybe try not to murder people for following a different one? I mean, there's plenty of reasons to murder people, but just because they're living...living their life...
PR-1, you need to...remind me...listen...morning...
*recording ends due to Lady Ciaran collapsing from exhaustion*
*Safely stored in deep storage*
*Searching for time slot in morning for Lady Ciaran to listen to recording*
*Time not found*
*Listing as low priority item on her daily agenda*
-my greater point being that all these are traps. They force you into a way of thinking, a way of dealing with the force, that is not only limited but also fragile. A Jedi, when confronted with the darkside in a manner that they cannot strike it down, inevitably fall. A Sith who is forced to face the fact that there is power beyond pain, hate, and anger almost always consumes themselves in trying to match it.
Even those outside of the Jedi and Sith are not immune to such things. I initially thought the force a tool, something I could pick up when I needed it and then put down when I was done with it. Yet the truth I was forced to face is that the force is always with us. I don't mean that in some shallow platitude, but a fundamental truth. The Jedi knew this once, but have buried behind centuries of dogma and riddle "The Force is with me, and I am one with the Force." The force is with all creatures, in some manner or fashion. It is inescapable, and always present. You may not be using it, you may not feel it as most never feel it, but it is always there.
Anyway, I don't mean to talk about how the force is some creeper watching you. That isn't it at all. Getting back to the trap thing, there is another response, beyond just shattering in the face of knew knowledge. You can do what I did instead, and what the greatest force users, like Revan and Meetra did. You can grow. There's a hint there, I think.
Growing isn't always easy. I once spoke with a spirit of sorts of the Darth Traya, who once was known as Kreia, and before you say anything, shut up! I'm not a Sith! Anytime I mention anyone called Darth it's alwa-
*pause in the recording as Lady Ciaran consumes another drink*
Anyway, what was I talking about? Oh right, Darth Traya and how growing is hard. She's pretty weird. Anyway, I talked to her ghost thingy once, so I looked into her more. She decided that the force was some sort of cosmic see-saw, going back and forth between Light and Dark and Light and Dark, causing all these stupid, costly wars. So, how to end this eternal cycle of conflict? Kill the force! I have to admire the sheer audacity of her goals, but even she grew into a trap. The answer to something you cannot escape, and cannot truly control, that everyone has, is not to kill it. I mean, it is an answer, but it's the answer of the grave, of giving up.
So, what is the force? All the pieces are there. Look how the force users live their lives, and where they trip up. The Jedi try to deny they have emotions, which is bullshit. I've met some great Jedi, and let me tell you, they got feelings, but since they wont admit that they're just hilariously terrible at them. Like, Obi-wan. He's got two ladies hanging off him, and-
*skipping forward over irrelevant gossip*
What was the point again? Right, Jedi only pretend there isn't emotion. The Sith, rebelling against the Jedi, try to pretend that emotion is all there is. Anyone who has ever dealt with someone with a quick temper knows how easy it is to lead that type of person by the nose. And it must get exhausting, to do nothing but wallow in your emotions, day in, day out, for years. They completely miss reason, thought, creativity, except as a means for furthering their emotions. They miss the value these things have in themselves.
So if the force is so wide and vast, what is it really? It's present wherever we go, and always with us. It encompasses both dispassionate thought, and the strongest of emotions. The last hint was provided to me by Darth Traya. She showed me a vision of the Sith every Miraluka knows, Darth Nihilus. We know him as the great life-stealer, the all consuming maw. Yet I saw what he did, and he was eating the force.
It should be clear by now, but I think it should be said. The Force is life itself. Life. It's why it is so varied, so deep. Why the Jedi and Sith keep failing, because they try to deny entire aspects of living, why it can't be a tool, because living is something you do. There are always going to be disagreements and differences, just like no two people's lives are the same. Yet most people in the galaxy manage not to murder each other because they're not living the same life, though now I think about it, enough do that the whole kill all sith, kill all jedi thing shouldn't be surprising.
Just like life, there isn't one answer to the force. You gotta figure out what path works for you, and maybe try not to murder people for following a different one? I mean, there's plenty of reasons to murder people, but just because they're living...living their life...
PR-1, you need to...remind me...listen...morning...
*recording ends due to Lady Ciaran collapsing from exhaustion*
*Safely stored in deep storage*
*Searching for time slot in morning for Lady Ciaran to listen to recording*
*Time not found*
*Listing as low priority item on her daily agenda*
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- america
jedi were basically buddhists.
they fucked it up by following the teachings of a telepath. the words he wrote down had a different meaning and would have only worked for his species.
Ardion Prosili
An (im)Perfect Cell
The clarity of an unfettered mind, free from the traps of ideology and the shackles of one's own persona....
...and no one will EVER know because PR-1 fucking cucked the galaxy out of Wisdom FUCK!
Attachment is not the same as an all consuming obsession. Though perhaps sensitivity to force tends to intensify emotions so attachment developing into obsession is more likely. Letting go of attachments was possibly intended as a means to avoid obsessions.
And all institutions tend to become dogmatic over time. Why should the Jedi be special snow flakes who avoid that?
And all institutions tend to become dogmatic over time. Why should the Jedi be special snow flakes who avoid that?