Reaper, you're usually on top of things, so I'm surprised to hear you claim something that's frankly suicidal.
Get an advanced version looks like it consumes the previous version. So when upgrading one, we have a spare that can still be used?
Oh. I was under the impression that we needed to know and fulfill a single condition in order to use Ragnarok safely.
Ok, that makes sense. However, wouldn't it be more efficient to get a second microfoundries at the same time as a second 3d printer? We were able to build both of them with a single timeslot when we had a scrap-tier printer and microfoundry, and I don't see why that would change now that we have the standard versions.
... I think you might want to revisit the front page:
We've already got a 'single condition', and it's not a safe casting, nor permits Recursion Field's use.
I originally suggested it during the discussion period, because I had 1 build slot left after the 2 prosthetic arms, and couldn't really think of anything else to build.
Noooo…
None. Not all, none. You have to fulfill just one of the conditions to cast Ragnarök safely.
A mana collector pulls mana out of the environment. Think of it like a windmill: it doesn't need any fuel (well, extremely little), but it doesn't have a great output, either. A generator consumes some kind of fuel, such as gasoline, to produce mana.
'pass out until the next morning' ≠ safe use. Just because something doesn't have a 100% chance of directly killing you, that does not mean it is safe to do. Gonna have to stand firm on this one.
In other words, it will never be safe to use, since 'has not cast a single spell' and 'will pass out' are part of the same "safety conditions"
Maybe. Depends on if the 'none' means other, less crippling, safety conditions can supersede the first one.
Plus getting good with cartridges may allow to offset some of the mana cost.
I think you may be misusing the term "no side effects", seeing as how passing out from using it is a side effect.
Yes, but that is specifically a side-effect of the bottom-most condition to use Ragnarok without dying. There are possibly side-effects specific to the first three methods to use Ragnarok safely, but we don't know what they are.
We have this big shiny toy at our disposal, I want to at least try and make it useable.No need for you to engage in tactical voting, Cartridge has a solid lead over anything else atm when combining the threads.So its interesting to see that potentially Tim and a GB he aquire could give us the four mages with Recursion after this week. Even just being able to freely fire off solar flare , or have Militia or someone bring in nukes and other nonsense, and not worry about current-wounded or buildings or non-evacuated or anything seems valuable without talking about Ragnarok yet.
Buuut if we think we can spare the time, it is naturally better for Tim to get the two beasts at once, moreso if we are stalling on him revealing himself just yet before he's got personal power toys rigged up.
Really though, seems like just the uncertainty on how Ragnarok conditions work (whether its multiple cooperative conditions, or a tree from worst to best) and how much a single one improves it , is a good reason to try and grab at least one of the prereqs. We might decide to hold off after that because it doesn't look good enough fast enough (or at all), but we might also discover that getting the prereqs could make it a lot more feasible to use. And cartridges would also let us do things like fire off Solar Flare without needing (as much of?) the lengthy chargeup (we needed Temporal Sludge and Vistas help to drop one on Cadejo originally, and we landed one on the E88 mainly because we had a team of heroes to distract them and they were bunkered waiting anyways).
Can we convince anyone to take Cartridges this time, and just make a compact to stick to evade/distance-firing tactics to try and minimize the need for Blitz-dodging? Or (if SW doesn't mind trades) I'll toss my vote into your favored Tim plan in exchange for switching to Cartridge?
Please note the bolded part.
Fair enough, I missed that since I was focusing on other parts of your posts re: using our city killer spell "safely".
I know you're just joking, but to let you know: Your Starlight Breaker–equivalent is the Belkan bombardment spell Ragnarök, which is canon from the second movie. You demanded a city-killer, I give you a city-killer. Aren't I nice?
Again, I've never watched any of the various series so I don't know that. And we're not either of those two, so assuming we're the same is not a good idea imo without further information.
Given we have an S-rank Linker Core:
Nanoha and Hayate are valid comparisons.
I'm going to assume those stars are accurate representations of the option because otherwise it doesn't make much sense for each one to be varied. I've spent a while trying to work out what the hidden words might be. While I have some ideas for the second and third options the only one I feel fairly certain on is the fourth:
Three words this time; 5 characters, 2 characters, and 10 characters long respectively. "Used XX Cartridges" where XX is a two digit number would fit the character count. Furthermore given Taylor can create a maximum of 8 cartridges per day a double digit requirement seems reasonable enough to compensate for not using up 100% of her mana.
*shrugs*
Which of course then runs into the possibility of risking severe mana poisoning if your guessing is close, depending on what the hypothetical XX number is.
No Hangman, sorry.
What about if any of the conclusions we reach are correct? Will you tell us if we're right or not?No Hangman, sorry.
