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Magical Girl Escalation Taylor (Worm/Nanoha)

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Dollmaker said:
Something that just occured to me; We're pretty much immune to heat and radiation, right? I remember hearing about how Sundancer's sun would have no effect on us. What I'm wondering is if there's an upper limit to that, and if so, what it might be. Was that ever answered?
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I've never given an upper limit, though I know I mentioned standing in Sundancer's (now Solaire's) powers or at ground zero right after a nuclear strike and being fine. I wouldn't recommend trying to test your limits by swimming in the actual sun, though that is because of the pressure and lack of oxygen rather than than the heat and radiation.
 
Silently Watches said:
I've never given an upper limit, though I know I mentioned standing in Sundancer's (now Solaire's) powers or at ground zero right after a nuclear strike and being fine. I wouldn't recommend trying to test your limits by swimming in the actual sun, though that is because of the pressure and lack of oxygen rather than than the heat and radiation.
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However, Behemoth's kill aura would have no effect on us, and we could say visit a site where a reactor is melting down and manually insert control rods to try to stop it, correct?
 
Maybe, but Behemoth also uses electric attacks, right? He could still fry us if we're not careful.
 
neutronium95 said:
Let's just hope that the control rods will actually help prevent the meltdown instead of making it worse.
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Well Chernobyl reactor underwent meltdown because those control rods were pulled out entirely...

Because Some People (TM) decided that using a power plant reactor (as opposed a laboratory reactor) to run experiments was a grand idea, because they were under time crunch because they wanted the power plant running fully once day came, and because they weren't actually scientists who could interpret and explain just WHY the reactor in question was currently experiencing a downturn in power generation (hint - short-lived radioactive isotopes that were generated in said experiment) and WHY not letting it operate as it should would be a BAD IDEA (hint - short-lived radioactive isotopes would decay in short order, destabilizing the chain reaction by no longer absorbing neutrons as control rods also do).
 
Faraway-R said:
Well Chernobyl reactor underwent meltdown because those control rods were pulled out entirely...

Because Some People (TM) decided that using a power plant reactor (as opposed a laboratory reactor) to run experiments was a grand idea, because they were under time crunch because they wanted the power plant running fully once day came, and because they weren't actually scientists who could interpret and explain just WHY the reactor in question was currently experiencing a downturn in power generation (hint - short-lived radioactive isotopes that were generated in said experiment) and WHY not letting it operate as it should would be a BAD IDEA (hint - short-lived radioactive isotopes would decay in short order, destabilizing the chain reaction by no longer absorbing neutrons as control rods also do).
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Far too many disasters came about because the idiot in charge decided he knew better than the scientists and technicians who actually understood the machinery.
 
Wyrd said:
Far too many disasters came about because the idiot in charge decided he knew better than the scientists and technicians who actually understood the machinery.
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Happens in IT all the time. Some manager orders that we do X, the techs in IT advise against it (and usually demand the order be put in writing and he sign that he overrides our advice), then when things go wrong we still get blamed for the computers being down. It can't possibly be because of the ill-advised decision we were ordered to implement. Or the refusal to authorize purchasing the replacement part or system upgrade because "you guys just want the latest toys, the system is working fine, we don't need to waste the money on that."
Or the manager gets told it will take X amount time to switch over the new system. Said manager, probably thinking of Kirk and Scotty on Star Trek decides in his wisdom to that the system will go live in X-2 weeks time, and then it's IT's fault for it not being ready and being full of bugs. We should just have worked harder, and no, we were not authorized for overtime pay.
The last one is surprisingly common, and the #1 reason why so many times when they switch to a new system it is full of bugs. The techs say it will take a certain amount of time, the managers then demand it go live at least a week earlier than the techs quoted. Then it becomes a guessing game on how much to inflate your estimates so the manager can feel like he's doing something by shortening the deadlines.
 
SlickRCBD said:
Or the manager gets told it will take X amount time to switch over the new system. Said manager, probably thinking of Kirk and Scotty on Star Trek decides in his wisdom to that the system will go live in X-2 weeks time, and then it's IT's fault for it not being ready and being full of bugs. We should just have worked harder, and no, we were not authorized for overtime pay.
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One of the best parts of Star Trek: Voyager was this very thing happening, only the new engineer responded to being told, essentially, "get it done in half the time," by saying "no". An engineer insisting that they are giving you as accurate an estimate as possible is exactly the kind of thing more television needs so fewer idiots think that whatever estimate they get is always padded and can be shortened at will.

This even happens in this story, with we the players trying to insist we can certainly get more done in the vote cycle and SW saying "nope".
 
Wyrd said:
One of the best parts of Star Trek: Voyager was this very thing happening, only the new engineer responded to being told, essentially, "get it done in half the time," by saying "no". An engineer insisting that they are giving you as accurate an estimate as possible is exactly the kind of thing more television needs so fewer idiots think that whatever estimate they get is always padded and can be shortened at will.

This even happens in this story, with we the players trying to insist we can certainly get more done in the vote cycle and SW saying "nope".
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Oh, I agree. I was still in school when that aired, so did not appreciate it as much at the time as I do NOW (or just after I graduated). I think they were trying to undo some of the damage that James Doohan did with Scotty advising LaForge to pad his times.
I know Doohan inspired a generation of Engineers, but that nonsense with the padded estimates really caused a lot of friction to all kinds of technicians and engineers with their bosses.
 
SlickRCBD said:
Oh, I agree. I was still in school when that aired, so did not appreciate it as much at the time as I do NOW (or just after I graduated). I think they were trying to undo some of the damage that James Doohan did with Scotty advising LaForge to pad his times.
I know Doohan inspired a generation of Engineers, but that nonsense with the padded estimates really caused a lot of friction to all kinds of technicians and engineers with their bosses.
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To be fair, a good engineer* does pad their estimates a little to account for the expected unexpecteds of life, the problems that will almost always arise to make a given task take longer than the absolute best case scenario. That doesn't excuse the morons who insist that things always be done in the absolute shortest time possible who are then surprised that delays happen. There's even a name for that in logic, the planning fallacy**.

*Technician, contractor, etc.
** Planning fallacy - Wikipedia
 
I had a new idea that would have been great before the build vote: A Clockblocker shield.

All it would need to do is toss out a wall of some flimsy, light material and freeze it in place to become essentially infinite protection to those in the lee. Making a bunch of these before the next Endbringer would be a great idea, particularly if we could put in an AI or slave the systems to put up the barriers when there is an attack/danger incoming, then resetting once the danger is passed to conserve power demands. Behemoth and Leviathan could manipulate things directly on the other side of it, as I understand Wldbow's post Worm comments, but up til they decide to stop holding back that much,this could save a lot of lives.

A related idea: Put a Clockblocker time stopper on either the wristbands or something more substantial to automatically freeze the wearer when their life signs show sufficient distress. If linked to the bands, Dragon could set up a dedicated arrival point for every cape participating in the fight, so that they could be teleported in then immediately frozen in time until the doctors/healers could get to them. We already built a similar product, but it requires active use, and we only have one of those, so there is a very hard limit on how much good it can do on its own.
 
Wyrd said:
All it would need to do is toss out a wall of some flimsy, light material and freeze it in place to become essentially infinite protection to those in the lee. Making a bunch of these before the next Endbringer would be a great idea, particularly if we could put in an AI or slave the systems to put up the barriers when there is an attack/danger incoming, then resetting once the danger is passed to conserve power demands. Behemoth and Leviathan could manipulate things directly on the other side of it, as I understand Wldbow's post Worm comments, but up til they decide to stop holding back that much,this could save a lot of lives.
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This is actually doable, though the effect would not last very long and thus would need to be refreshed.
 
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Exploring New Worlds
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    • This was previously in the FAQ proper, but because of the detail that this could possess, I'm moving it to its own threadmark. Also because there are a couple of things I want people to keep in mind. ;)

    With the Dimensional Transfer spell, Taylor can head off to other worlds to see what is there. According to the Enforcers, there are between fifteen and eighteen worlds in the "Earth Bet cluster world", named as such because the TSAB names cluster worlds by the first world with which contact is established.

    You as players can do one of two things when you want Taylor to go world-hopping. First, you can explore a world you and she already know about. Second, you can look at one of the worlds that has yet to be explored, in which case I will create it at random. Be advised that not all worlds are fit for humanity, and most of them are in a different technologic age than Earth Bet.

    The worlds Taylor knows about are:

    EARTH ALEPH, AKA "Earth Bet-4", was the first alternate Earth that was ever discovered. Thanks to Professor Haywire's portal, there is communication between Earth Aleph and Earth Bet, though the portal in question is only large enough and stable enough to permit wireless data transfer. Physical objects cannot move between worlds. Like Earth Bet, Aleph is in the Digital Age.

    EARTH BET (Earth Bet-12) is Taylor's home dimension.

    EARTH GIMEL (Earth Bet-1) is the alternate Earth where the Enforcers crash-landed. Humanity never developed on this world because dinosaurs did not become extinct. The Sojourner is currently in orbit around this planet.

    EARTH DALET (Earth Bet-10) is where Contessa was born, Eden crashed, and Cauldron's base was built. Taylor, Tim, and Dragon explored the base to some extent, and she returned with Legend and Alexandria to recover the remaining power vials. Unlike the base, which was built with methods and materials from Earth Bet, the rest of this world has a technology level more consistent with the Early Modern Age or very early Industrial Revolution.

    EARTH HE (Earth Bet-2) could best be described as a volcanic hell-world. Taylor has not explored it at all, merely landed there for a few seconds before moving on. Nonetheless that brief glance indicates that there may be ruins of a fallen civilization close by.

    EARTH VAV (Earth Bet-5). This alternate Earth is still in the Bronze Age. Capes are worshiped as gods. Taylor and Missy explored long enough to find a bug-controlling villain and defeated her and her retinue, which seems to have made Taylor the primary god of that village.

    EARTH ZAYIN (Earth Bet-16) is in a dimension that even the Enforcers could not see clearly. When Taylor, the Triumvirate, and the Arcana as a whole visited, they discovered a seemingly abandoned planet whose previous inhabitants had a technological base centuries ahead of Earth Bet's.
     
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    • Silently Watches said:
    Earth He (Earth Bet-2), could best be described as a volcanic hell-world. Taylor has not explored it at all, merely landed there for a few seconds before moving on. Nonetheless that brief glance indicates that there may be ruins of a fallen civilization close by.
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    Whelp. I would say that this one looks like the most interesting.

    I am presuming that something caused the downfall of the prior Civilization, destroying the world in the process. This means, barring a natural phenomenon of some sort, the world possibly contains weaponry/technology capable of such a feat or a threat of that magnitude (a parahuman or something).

    Regardless, it seems like something to check out. If only to confirm there is not some earth-destroying parahuman hanging around in our general dimensional space.
     
    tgojeff said:
    Whelp. I would say that this one looks like the most interesting.

    I am presuming that something caused the downfall of the prior Civilization, destroying the world in the process. This means, barring a natural phenomenon of some sort, the world possibly contains weaponry/technology capable of such a feat or a threat of that magnitude (a parahuman or something).

    Regardless, it seems like something to check out. If only to confirm there is not some earth-destroying parahuman hanging around in our general dimensional space.
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    My guess is that is where Scion decided to kill himself.
     
    Dinode said:
    My guess is that is where Scion decided to kill himself.
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    Maybe?

    Remember, something weird happened to the entities. Eden disappeared as well, ruining Cauldron in the process.

    If it is Scion, that body is possibly the most valuable thing in the dimensional-cluster. That would be a whole lot of power-juice laying around. (Assuming it was reachable)
     
    Dunno if we'll get anything worthwhile out of it, but I say we go worldhopping at earliest opportunity. Exploration can never be a bad thing, right?
     
    Silently Watches said:
    Earth Vav (Earth Bet-5). This alternate Earth is still in the Iron Age. Capes are worshiped as gods. Taylor and Missy explored long enough to find a bug-controlling villain and defeated her and her retinue.
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    "You become responsible, forever, for what you have tamed."
    -- Antoine de Saint-Exupéry

    "Just please, stop calling me a goddess."
    -- Calamity Witch, the Bright Sun, She Who Punishes the Wicked and Rewards the Pious, The Supreme Goddess
     
    Dinode said:
    My guess is that is where Scion decided to kill himself.
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    tgojeff said:
    Maybe?

    Remember, something weird happened to the entities. Eden disappeared as well, ruining Cauldron in the process.

    If it is Scion, that body is possibly the most valuable thing in the dimensional-cluster. That would be a whole lot of power-juice laying around. (Assuming it was reachable)
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    RoninSword said:
    My assumption was that Scion likely disintegrated Eden's body. And likely did something to his own to make sure it couldn't be used.
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    SW described it as "Scion merged with Eden and then destroyed them both," iirc. Whether that included Scion's true body or if it were just his Scion-self is unknown, but SW did make a point of telling us about how to make power vials, so I'd put the odds of Scion's remaining body still being discoverable at better than 50/50. The odds would be higher if not for the time honored tradition of GMs(etc.) messing with their players.

    Dollmaker said:
    Dunno if we'll get anything worthwhile out of it, but I say we go worldhopping at earliest opportunity. Exploration can never be a bad thing, right?
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    Ask the Native Americans, Aborigines, or any of a number of civilizations about that, eh? While I believe SW said something about us being protected from picking up diseases, if we bring along Missy, Laura, or Kayleigh, they might pick up a bug that leads to a game arc centered on dealing with a disease Earth-betians have no immunity to.
     
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