Lex Sedet In Vertice: A Supervillain in the DCU CK2 quest

What sort of tone should I shoot for with this Quest?

  • Go as crack fueled as you can we want Ambush Bug, Snowflame and Duckseid

    Votes: 30 7.7%
  • Go for something silly but keep a little bit of reason

    Votes: 31 7.9%
  • Adam West Camp

    Votes: 27 6.9%
  • Balanced as all things should be

    Votes: 195 50.0%
  • Mostly serious but not self-involvedly so

    Votes: 73 18.7%
  • Dark and brooding but with light at the end of the tunnel

    Votes: 12 3.1%
  • We're evil and we don't want anyone to be happy

    Votes: 22 5.6%

  • Total voters
    390
  • Poll closed .
I'll do my best to be on the ball when explaining things but I also don't want to drown everyone in text (I do enough of that with every action vote.

The issue with a lot of these things is that while useful animal psychological behavior is not enough to get it to work on its own. The AI cannot make long term plans thus it cannot truly succeed at the stock market. It can recognize and emulate parts of speech but it is incapable of understanding the complexity of human speech (Parrots and dogs can understand and repeat things like "sit" but they can't grasp "sit down after eating") so chatbots and full on speech recognition are not at all feasible. Likewise self-driving cars (getting a car to head to a destination in a timely manner while not violating traffic laws is incredibly complex and would need too much stitching and cobbling to actually function with the AI you have now), medical diagnostics (how many diseases can an animal recognize?), customer support (language issues again) and even arguably emotional recognition (can animals understand sarcasm?) are too complicated for the AI to parse as it is. Yes some of the fields listed could work (aviation and agriculture would for example) but oftentimes they still need hardware rejected. The general rule of thumb is that if an animal cannot do it then the animal-like AI can't do it. Yes the behavior is useful but it isn't a complete enough package to truly get it functional. The write-in was rejected because it was way too broad and had massive holes in what you could actually do with the animal-like AI. A lot of the proposed fields have a complexity to the tasks that no animal could truly deal with so the AI would be incapable of properly fulfilling the task.
A lot of the load is made easier when you combine traditional AI (RL shit we have) with the Animal AI. A lot of the short-comings of an animal are easily handled with normal computer stuff. Like, we don't NEED a Dog AI, we simply need a AI that is good at identifing smells. What those smell mean, the AI doesn't have to know or care. It doesn't know that that smell is gunpowder, and as such that guy probably has a gun. All it knows is that, when it smells that smell, to mentally tick off this box (which happens to have "Gunpowder" written beside it).

Long-term planning might not be a thing it can do, but it might not NEED to be able to do that. Ants prepare for the winter without having a firm idea of what "The Winter" is, they just recognize what is happening here and now, and have a behavior they respond with. No actual planning, but the behavior just so happens to set up them up in a beneficial situation later. This is hte most iffy of all, the stock market is complex, and we are probably honestly better off using normal AI, but hey, never know what we might figure out.

Speech Recognition is less an issue of understanding the message, but more exactly what is being said. If the Animal AI can discern "Sit down after eating", it can pass that off to other, normal AI to handle that. Understanding exactly what is being said is more problematic than the message behind it. A lot of bonus features can be added if we include the ability to know when IT is being talked to. So someone just saying the word "sit" in passing wouldn't get a response, but someone saying it, intentionally, to the AI would.

Chat Bots, birds have an amazing ability to detect patterns in conversation and repeat them. At appropriate times at that. And this is not to mention the various accounts of a bird seeming to say new stuff (I remember one if a bird who was always greeted with "You're a bird!", later saying to itself "I'm a bird"), or the fact that there is a gorilla who can speak (sign language).

Honestly, Self-Driving cars are pretty simple. The HARDEST part is object recognition. Figuring out what is a car, where it is going, and the like. If the roads were empty and you didn't have to worry about other people? It'd be a breeze to make a car that could get wherever it needed to and never broke the law. We only need the animal AI for that part, since "recognizing other moving thigns and where they are going" is a VERY basic trait of most any animal that has ever been eaten or eaten something.

A surprising number of diseases can be detected by dogs. Like various types of cancer. Something about how people smell. Teach the AI to recognize various types of smells, and there you go. I'm sure you could get a lot else by mixing in keen hearing and UV/IR vision.

Customer Support would be mainly with emotion recognition. While it may not be able to understand sarcasm, it honestly doesn't need to. Just needs to rate the person on the "Happy VS Angry" scale, and know when situations need to be escalated or not. You can be sarcastic all you want, but what matters isn't what your saying but how you're saying it. And angry person has a different tone of voice from a happy sarcastic one.

And yes, there are hardware limitations, but that is true of literally anything. Pure software will get you no where.
 
A lot of the load is made easier when you combine traditional AI (RL shit we have) with the Animal AI. A lot of the short-comings of an animal are easily handled with normal computer stuff. Like, we don't NEED a Dog AI, we simply need a AI that is good at identifing smells. What those smell mean, the AI doesn't have to know or care. It doesn't know that that smell is gunpowder, and as such that guy probably has a gun. All it knows is that, when it smells that smell, to mentally tick off this box (which happens to have "Gunpowder" written beside it).

Long-term planning might not be a thing it can do, but it might not NEED to be able to do that. Ants prepare for the winter without having a firm idea of what "The Winter" is, they just recognize what is happening here and now, and have a behavior they respond with. No actual planning, but the behavior just so happens to set up them up in a beneficial situation later. This is hte most iffy of all, the stock market is complex, and we are probably honestly better off using normal AI, but hey, never know what we might figure out.

Speech Recognition is less an issue of understanding the message, but more exactly what is being said. If the Animal AI can discern "Sit down after eating", it can pass that off to other, normal AI to handle that. Understanding exactly what is being said is more problematic than the message behind it. A lot of bonus features can be added if we include the ability to know when IT is being talked to. So someone just saying the word "sit" in passing wouldn't get a response, but someone saying it, intentionally, to the AI would.

Chat Bots, birds have an amazing ability to detect patterns in conversation and repeat them. At appropriate times at that. And this is not to mention the various accounts of a bird seeming to say new stuff (I remember one if a bird who was always greeted with "You're a bird!", later saying to itself "I'm a bird"), or the fact that there is a gorilla who can speak (sign language).

Honestly, Self-Driving cars are pretty simple. The HARDEST part is object recognition. Figuring out what is a car, where it is going, and the like. If the roads were empty and you didn't have to worry about other people? It'd be a breeze to make a car that could get wherever it needed to and never broke the law. We only need the animal AI for that part, since "recognizing other moving thigns and where they are going" is a VERY basic trait of most any animal that has ever been eaten or eaten something.

A surprising number of diseases can be detected by dogs. Like various types of cancer. Something about how people smell. Teach the AI to recognize various types of smells, and there you go. I'm sure you could get a lot else by mixing in keen hearing and UV/IR vision.

Customer Support would be mainly with emotion recognition. While it may not be able to understand sarcasm, it honestly doesn't need to. Just needs to rate the person on the "Happy VS Angry" scale, and know when situations need to be escalated or not. You can be sarcastic all you want, but what matters isn't what your saying but how you're saying it. And angry person has a different tone of voice from a happy sarcastic one.

And yes, there are hardware limitations, but that is true of literally anything. Pure software will get you no where.
This is all fair enough but it misses some context in my opinion. The quest takes place at a time period where cell phones were all flip phones a year ago, the internet is only burgeoning and a lot of tech we take for granted doesn't exist. I'll go as far as agreeing with you that if we had an animal-like AI irl it would be useful in all the ways you mentioned. However a lot of the tech necessary for these things that we have now doesn't exist. The olfactory sensors for example which are necessary for a lot of your suggestions do not currently exist in the quest as well as GPS not really being a thing for civilian use. As such attempting to include these options in the next vote with out the prerequisites is not feasible. On top of that while it is true that Koko the gorilla learned sign language I'd argue she is anomalous (Edit: did some more research turns out people believed that Koko didn't truly understand sign language as well as people thought she did and that it may in fact have been operant conditioning and the Clever Hans effect. She was clearly not able to fully grasp the complexities of language considering that one of her greatest achievements was recognizing herself in a mirror which other gorillas regularly failed to do). Parrots are very dangerous to use as the basis to have for a chatbot. Yes some intelligent parrots can somewhat respond to certain cues in conversation but it is not guaranteed to respond properly and with certain cues it can very quickly learn unhealthy behavior. For example there was a parrot in a pet store near my childhood home (a blue and gold Macaw if you want specificity) that knew how to respond to the phrase "hello pretty bird" with "hello". However it was a crapshoot to actually get it to respond and occasionally it would respond "fuck you" to people who said "hello pretty bird" to it. Your chatbot could very quickly go off the rails. The filter systems that could be used do not currently exist. It's a cart before the horse issue. Your animal AI is incredibly useful, however you do not have the prerequisites that would make it as useful as it could be in real life.
 
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This is all fair enough but it misses some context in my opinion. The quest takes place at a time period where cell phones were all flip phones a year ago, the internet is only burgeoning and a lot of tech we take for granted doesn't exist. I'll go as far as agreeing with you that if we had an animal-like AI irl it would be useful in all the ways you mentioned. However a lot of the tech necessary for these things that we have now doesn't exist. The olfactory sensors for example which are necessary for a lot of your suggestions do not currently exist in the quest (GPS is not really a thing for civilian use for example). As such attempting to include these options in the next vote with out the prerequisites is not feasible. On top of that while it is true that Koko the gorilla learned sign language I'd argue she is anomalous. Parrots are very dangerous to use as the basis to have for a chatbot. Yes some intelligent parrots can somewhat respond to certain cues in conversation but it is not guaranteed to respond properly and with certain cues it can very quickly learn unhealthy behavior. For example there was a parrot in a pet store near my childhood home (a blue and gold Macaw if you want specificity) that knew how to respond to the phrase "hello pretty bird" with "hello". However it was a crapshoot to actually get it to respond and occasionally it would respond "fuck you" to people who said "hello pretty bird" to it. Your chatbot could very quickly go off the rails. The filter systems that could be used do not currently exist. It's a cart before the horse issue. Your animal AI is incredibly useful, however you do not have the prerequisites that would make it as useful as it could be in real life.
So what you're saying is that for commercial applications and things that aren't animal Sims we'd be better off revolutionizin digital infrastructure as a whole?

Also did I just catch a whiff that we can design specific tools at least 2 decades ahead of their time which would suggest we could develop the framework for all the major commercial digital applications a generation in advance before jumping a generation ahead to get everythi bff running on our standards and force market capture? More so if we also set competents to capitalize on any potential advancin digital fields for maximum consumer market share?

Basically brute forcing digital monopoly by not just developing everything a generation in advance but by releasing it all simultaneously so we steal market share on all fronts and market capture insofar as development goes by essentially brute forcing everyone onto our platform?

That we can do all this before digital fields even take off in significant fashion leaving us with no insurmountable trillion dollar competitors?

Edit: also that that may be some of the problem with our banking tech? That the things that would make it shine simply don't exist because it's at least a gen ahead of time?
 
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So what you're saying is that for commercial applications and things that aren't animal Sims we'd be better off revolutionizin digital infrastructure as a whole?

Also did I just catch a whiff that we can design specific tools at least 2 decades ahead of their time which would suggest we could develop the framework for all the major commercial digital applications a generation in advance before jumping a generation ahead to get everythi bff running on our standards and force market capture? More so if we also set competents to capitalize on any potential advancin digital fields for maximum consumer market share?

Basically brute forcing digital monopoly by not just developing everything a generation in advance but by releasing it all simultaneously so we steal market share on all fronts and market capture insofar as development goes by essentially brute forcing everyone onto our platform?

That we can do all this before digital fields even take off in significant fashion leaving us with no insurmountable trillion dollar competitors?

Edit: also that that may be some of the problem with our banking tech? That the things that would make it shine simply don't exist because it's at least a gen ahead of time?
Yes this is feasible. You most certainly could try and do it but people are already scrambling for the next big thing after the Lex-Phone and software is already undergoing tons of research with the advent of the internet. Competition might get fiercer now that the stakes have been raised (especially with Bruce Wayne back home). In universe that is the reason why the banking tech was not very successful (Lex got so used to expecting things decades in advance that he was blindsided when his workers just couldn't replicate what was essentially future tech)
 
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This is all fair enough but it misses some context in my opinion. The quest takes place at a time period where cell phones were all flip phones a year ago, the internet is only burgeoning and a lot of tech we take for granted doesn't exist. I'll go as far as agreeing with you that if we had an animal-like AI irl it would be useful in all the ways you mentioned. However a lot of the tech necessary for these things that we have now doesn't exist. The olfactory sensors for example which are necessary for a lot of your suggestions do not currently exist in the quest (GPS is not really a thing for civilian use for example). As such attempting to include these options in the next vote with out the prerequisites is not feasible. On top of that while it is true that Koko the gorilla learned sign language I'd argue she is anomalous. Parrots are very dangerous to use as the basis to have for a chatbot. Yes some intelligent parrots can somewhat respond to certain cues in conversation but it is not guaranteed to respond properly and with certain cues it can very quickly learn unhealthy behavior. For example there was a parrot in a pet store near my childhood home (a blue and gold Macaw if you want specificity) that knew how to respond to the phrase "hello pretty bird" with "hello". However it was a crapshoot to actually get it to respond and occasionally it would respond "fuck you" to people who said "hello pretty bird" to it. Your chatbot could very quickly go off the rails. The filter systems that could be used do not currently exist. It's a cart before the horse issue. Your animal AI is incredibly useful, however you do not have the prerequisites that would make it as useful as it could be in real life.
A lot of those things weren't POPULAR back then, but they EXISTED.

The first IPhone (which is a fair starting point for Smart Phones, in my opinion) came out in 2007. So we are "set" some year before then. Electronic Noses existed for "a few years" before 2007, and one of the noted main limitations to scent-detection is not the physical hardware, but pattern recognition. GPS became available to the civilian market in 1980 and was fully functional in 1995. You'd have to moderate your chatbots, but that's true regardless, and the key with AI is that you honestly only need 1 to become good at it's job, and then you can replicate it.

We are Lex Corp. A WORLD LEADER in tech. I would believe we'd have access to what is already market available, and given who we are it seems like we'd naturally improve any peripheral tech just while we're at it. The Robo-noses might not be amazing, but if we are setting to design a system that needs them I would think we'd just bring them up to our level while we're at it.
 
We're on a dc timeline early internet age and what you're worried about is gps not being fully up?:wtf:

Anyway, who's down to use our badassery to preempt potential competitors and take market capture and maximum market share if the internet, which is just becoming a thing, for lex corp?

Edit: autocorrupted gps, deity wakefulness is a valuable concern for people with our level of hubris.
 
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A lot of those things weren't POPULAR back then, but they EXISTED.

The first IPhone (which is a fair starting point for Smart Phones, in my opinion) came out in 2007. So we are "set" some year before then. Electronic Noses existed for "a few years" before 2007, and one of the noted main limitations to scent-detection is not the physical hardware, but pattern recognition. GPS became available to the civilian market in 1980 and was fully functional in 1995. You'd have to moderate your chatbots, but that's true regardless, and the key with AI is that you honestly only need 1 to become good at it's job, and then you can replicate it.

We are Lex Corp. A WORLD LEADER in tech. I would believe we'd have access to what is already market available, and given who we are it seems like we'd naturally improve any peripheral tech just while we're at it. The Robo-noses might not be amazing, but if we are setting to design a system that needs them I would think we'd just bring them up to our level while we're at it.
The year is ambiguous but if I had to place it, year zero is 1996. GPS was functioning in 1995 yes but that misses the fact that it was still unreliable (Clinton and Gore had to make several plans in the years that followed to get it to work properly). The tech level is unreliable for placing the timeline since it is rather schizotech (T.O. Morrow made a fully functioning android with wind powers in the sixties). Your comparisons to what is available fundamentally do not work because tech levels in this setting are not equivalent to what occurred irl (in my post on things at the beginning of the quest I mentioned that certain technologies are more advance than what we currently have). If you want to develop the necessary hardware that is great but I will repeat this again right now many of the necessary prerequisites for this idea do not currently exist. The write in is still firmly and empathetically rejected.
 
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Welcome Home Wayne Part 1
So the vote is now closed. The winning options appear to be
[ ] Plan Dream
[ ] Don't use the pheromone spray
[ ] Reveal a highly edited version of what you know about Ra's al Ghul to Lois Lane
[ ] Work closely with Talia al Ghul but don't let her in your inner circle


As such I will begin the little mini-arc that is the party. Sorry that I am a bit late. Without further ado here it is

Welcome Home Wayne

Gotham was not always a pleasant place to be. However they seemed to be pulling out all of the stops for the returning son, Bruce Wayne. People were milling about and mingling. Both the lowlife and the highlife of Gotham had come out in droves to meet with the movers and shakers of the industry. You couldn't be too disparaging of the individuals who did this (you had something similar in mind for yourself) but the tasteless self congratulatory style of indulgence on full display at this party was something you firmly disapproved of. Evidently Pamela felt similarly to you. While she kept up a smile on her face you could realize her tenseness. You gave Pamela some advice about how while dealing with lesser minds could be rather frustrating it often was a necessary component of getting real change affected. While this party was rather low stakes you felt it would be best for Pamela to get some practice in social manipulation so she could more effectively support her desire to save the planet (under your banner and guidance of course). Pamela accepted the thanks and was proud that you believed in her and would do her best to ensure that this night would be a success.

As you scanned the crowed you saw several interesting individuals whom you were interested in turning to your cause. Businessmen Roland Dagget, and Ferris Boyle were off in the corner in suits that simply screamed nouveau riche joined by a woman you didn't recognize but overly greedy businessmen were always easy to manipulate to your own benefit and oftentimes lacked foresight in their dealings making them the ideal targets to undermine. Notorious socialite Silver St. Cloud was speaking to Sapphire Stagg over by the open bar. You were curious what the littlest Stagg in the woods was doing at a party of a business rival without her father attending. Three police officers stood by the entrance of the building while the new district attorney argued with the police commissioner and the mayor over how to clean up the streets of Gotham. Real estate mogul Maxie Zeus had shown up with a model as a date and promptly made an ass out of himself in full view of everyone else by getting completely drunk and jumping into a fountain. Charles Sionis was apparently talking to the Wayne's family butler (Nickelswarth or something along those lines) while Alberto Falcone, the good son of the Falcone family looked distinctly uncomfortable hanging around at the edges of the party. There was a woman in a black dress with a pentagram on it who disdainfully sneered at the crowd as a woman in a bomber jacket and an aviators cap appeared to endlessly babble on about something to her neither of whom appeared to match the general mood of the party. Lucius Fox lightly bantered with Philip Kane whose niece awkwardly stood near him unsure of what to do. Finally there was the man of the hour himself. Bruce Wayne was in the middle of an interview with Vicki Vale as some supermodel hung off of his arm apparently fed up with Wayne's need to be the center of attention at this party.

You smiled. You were like a shark when doing business and you smelled blood in the water. So many opportunities here were just ripe for the picking and you were going to take every advantage you could get. This party might be held in Wayne's honor but it would most certainly end up being for your benefit.


Party Activities subvote:
Please vote to select up to eight options (you can do less). Pamela and Luthor can double team options in order to get more benefit out of each meeting but can only be assigned to 4 options max. Please assign at least one hero unit to each option you select. The top four options for each hero will be selected. Please do not vote in plan format and remember there is a 1 hour moratorium on votes. For formatting please vote for actions you want Lex to take as [ ] [Lex] and actions you want Pamela to take as [ ] [Pamela]

[ ] Speak to Stagg and St. Cloud
[ ] Speak to Maxie Zeus and his date
[ ] Speak to the woman with the pentacle dress and the woman with the bomber jacket
[ ] Speak to the police stationed as security
[ ] Speak to the Dagget, Boyle and the unknown businesswoman
[ ] Speak to Alberto Falcone
[ ] Speak to Bruce Wayne
[ ] Speak with Vicki Vale
[ ] Speak with Charles Sionis
[ ] Speak with Commissioner Loeb
[ ] Speak with Mayor Hamilton Hill
[ ] Speak with Harvey Dent
[ ] Speak with Lucius Fox
[ ] Speak with Philip Kane
[ ] Speak with Katherine Kane
[ ] Speak with the entertainment
[ ] Get a drink
[ ] Dance
[ ] Scope out the entrances and exits
[ ] Install spyware at the party
 
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So... anyone else feel the need to double on wayne?
 
This probably isn't the right way to actually format the vote but I think these are important.

Lex
[ ] Speak to the police stationed as security

League goons?

Both
[ ] Speak with Philip Kane

Possible poach opportunity. Could be a solo Lex action.

[ ] Scope out the entrances and exits

League goons, protection for both hero units

[ ] Speak to Bruce Wayne

More opportunity to steer conversation and give him more to interact with and thus less to focus on

[] Dance

For the meme

Pamela
[ ] Speak with Vicki Vale

I don't really know where the extra action should go but having Pamela get more time in the spotlight with her high diplo should be a good opportunity.
 
[ ] [Pamela] Speak to the police stationed as security
[ ] [Lex] Speak to Bruce Wayne
[ ] [Lex] Speak with Harvey Dent
[ ] [Pamela] Speak with Lucius Fox
[ ] [Pamela] Speak with Philip Kane
[ ] [Pamela] Speak to Bruce Wayne
[ ] [Lex] Dance
[ ] [Lex] Scope out the entrances and exits

all this would be a very interesting night
 
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I plan to vote for the following:

[ ] [Lex] Speak to Bruce Wayne
[ ] [Pamela] Speak to Bruce Wayne
Batman is important, right?

[ ] [Lex] Scope out the entrances and exits
Just to be safe

[ ] [Lex] Speak to Alberto Falcone
Contacts with Gotham's mafia will be very useful

[ ] [Lex] Dance
[ ] [Pamela] Dance
Bringing a date and not dancing with her is not cool

[ ] [Pamela] Speak with Katherine Kane
Potential Batwoman here.

[ ] [Pamela] Speak with Philip Kane
We may benefit if he'll become interested in Pamela. Will make hiring him easier.
 
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Lucius Fox would be someone Pam appreciate talking to I bet. Both are intellectuals and getting the short end of respect before meeting their current sponsor.
 
Lucius Fox would be someone Pam appreciate talking to I bet. Both are intellectuals and getting the short end of respect before meeting their current sponsor.
I think our goal is not making her enjoy the party but learn how to extract value from people...
You know, I don't mind Pamela going full "all men but Luthor are pigs"...

So... My question is. Who will annoy her the most? Who is most likely to treat her as a pretty face and nothing else?
 
I think our goal is not making her enjoy the party but learn how to extract value from people...
You know, I don't mind Pamela going full "all men but Luthor are pigs"...

So... My question is. Who will annoy her the most? Who is most likely to treat her as a pretty face and nothing else?

Why would you risk Pam's psyche just because?
 
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I can certainly get behind
[ ] [Lex] Speak to Bruce Wayne
[ ] [Pamela] Speak to Bruce Wayne

[ ] [Lex] Dance with Pamela
[ ] [Pamela] Dance with Lex
Possible boost between the two

[ ] [Lex] Speak to the woman with the pentacle dress and the woman with the bomber jacket
We just bought an aircraft industry, we need the best test pilot available.

[ ] [Lex] Speak with Lucius Fox
Bruce just got back, we have a chance to steal the man behind bat tech

[ ][Pamela]Speak with Philip Kane
[ ][Pamela]Speak with Katherine Kane

Maybe snag a competent businessman, and batwoman candidate

We have a prime opportunity to pick up some interesting characters
 
This was a weird turn with some big effects. Mysteries are still afoot but your conflict with Ra's is entering a new era as more details are revealed. You've got three subvotes this turn and then you go to the Wayne party. There is a 1 hour moratorium on votes so you can best plan how to approach the subvotes and your party approach. Sorry for the delay and I hope you enjoy these subvotes.

Turn 5 Results:
[ ] The A.M.A.Z.O. Project
DC 120 (DC 70 if Ivo is assigned to the action)
Roll 56+ 30 (Ivo's learning stat)
Decent success

Ivo has continued his work on his pet project. While the breakthrough was nowhere near as impressive as it had been you still gained something useful from it. Not only has the project continued to go according to schedule but by decoding some of Ivo's latest advances you have figured out how to make a working flight propulsion unit. You are satisfied with the continued progress if a little disappointed at having your success be slowed down.

Results: Another step of the A.M.A.Z.O. project completed. Gained the flight unit tech.

[ ] Learn about robotics
DC 27
Roll 14
Significant Failure

In your haste to capitalize on Ivo's success in the field of robotics you had reassigned multiple scientists to look into how you could advance robotics to keep pace with his discovery. Obviously you expected too much too quickly. Somehow when studying how to make better robots the scientists you assigned to the task managed to cause a robot they had built to explode. The explosion had injured several scientists and will delay your ability to study how to improve robotics until the injured staff recovers. You will not tolerate repeated failures like this and as such you will ensure that incidents like this do not occur again.

Results: No new tech gained. DC for [ ] learn about robotics temporarily raised for next turn.

[ ] Fortify Metropolis
DC 18
Roll 91 + 19 (Mercy Martial stat) + 20 (reroll bonus) + 19 -156 (League of Shadows attack on the city with rerolls factored in)
Total -7
Significant Failure

You knew that the League of Shadows probing assassination attempts were building up to a much larger scale attack. Still you had underestimated the sheer scope of the attack. The police were utterly unable to deal with a sudden rash of mass bombings throughout the city. The defenses you built were torn down by infiltrators and ninjas placed at key positions as the League ran rampant throughout your city. Mercy was eventually able to discover that the whole campaign was a distraction so they could draw out your security forces to make assassinating you more feasible. As such the plan failed but it was cold comfort to you when your city had begun burning because some narrow minded fanatics wanted to distract you. A large swarthy man named Ubu then delivered an ultimatum that you would be killed or he would have his forces escalate even further. You will make the League pay for what they did to your city. No one threatens Lex Luthor and gets away with it. This war is far from over and now you are genuinely angry. They will all burn for what they did to your city.

Results: 137 LexCorp security forces killed. Large swathes of Metropolis destroyed. LexCorp unharmed. US government is now involved in the fight. Lois Lane requests information on Ra's since she was in danger anyways. League of Shadows is now only one successful interference away from becoming a nemesis.


[ ] Consult with NASA
DC 4
Roll 42
Significant Success

Consulting with NASA was a success. Using your company's expertise in launching satellites and in transmitting information you were able to provide numerous benefits to improve how NASA's satellite would function. On top of establishing a positive relationship with the US government this consultation has also allowed you to install a backdoor into the satellites data stream giving you the ability to see what the satellite picks up before the government does.

Results: Relationship improved with US government. Backdoor installed on Mars satellite

[ ] Attend a welcome home party for Bruce Wayne
DC 0 (the roll just affects who is there. Assigning a hero unit to this action does give you some more prep time and will prevent some things from blindsiding you)
Roll 92 (a lot of people will show up and there will be plenty of opportunities)

Details will be expanded on in the Welcome Home Wayne interlude

[ ] Purchase mining rights for kryptonite in Nebraska
DC 5
Roll 69
Spectacular Success

There isn't much interest in mining for kryptonite right now. It looks neat and has interesting properties but no one has found much use for it yet. However when a large cache of it was discovered you decided to buy the mining rights to it on a whim. You managed to get the rights for an absolute pittance but also in the process of investigating kryptonite discovered another even larger cache of kryptonite off the coast of Nova Scotia which you also purchased the mining rights to. You have access to more kryptonite than virtually every other person. The moment you find a use for the material you'll be able to multiply your fortune tenfold.

Results: You have the rights to mine a massive amount of kryptonite in Nova Scotia and in Nebraska

[ ] Purchase Ferris Aircraft
DC 16
Roll 98

Ferris Aircraft had been undergoing some tough times recently. Seeing the potential for this smaller business to boost your own favored markets you decided to buy the company and invest in it. The power transitioned smoothly and the whole company was glad to be able to work under your aegis with vast amounts of resources that they previously could have only dreamed of. Carol Ferris now feels personally indebted to you and is incredibly loyal to the LexCorp brand which has not only saved her family's company but also possibly elevated it to new heights. Miss Ferris has decided to fly out from Coast City on the opposite side of the country to speak with you about what new directions you have in mind for Ferris Aircraft

Results: Ferris Aircraft acquired. Ferris Aircraft expanded to a much larger size. Hero unit Carol Ferris gained (I'll put her stats up after the meeting with her). Ferris' Future subvote unlocked.

[ ] Investigate Miranda Tate
DC 30
Roll 36+21 (Lex's Intrigue stat)
Significant Success

Investigating Miranda Tate was an interesting experience. After having had numerous spies comb through her house and finding nothing of note (besides confirmation that she had a jian that could have been used to frame you for killing the five assassins in custody), you decided to take a risk and personally investigate. The League of Shadows had conducted a massive attack on Metropolis and you were in no mood to let the fighting drag out even further. You would deal with this issue yourself. When you arrived at Miranda Tate's house you were greeted by the woman in question. She was attractive and sophisticated. Before you could confront her "Miranda" revealed numerous secrets to you. Firstly, in reality she was actually Talia al Ghul, the daughter of Ra's al Ghul. She revealed that she found the brutal murder of the captured assassins to be in opposition to the defensive stance you had taken against the League of Shadows. She investigated and found further discrepancies which lead her to conclude that you were not responsible. She has come to a decision that teaming up with you would help her find the real murderer and would allow her to surreptitiously gain power and respect in the League. She offered you a deal to work with her. Talia al Ghul is obviously not the most trustworthy but you may gain significant rewards from working closer with her and you'd have a much easier time finding the true murderer of the assassins.

Results: Miranda Tate revealed to actually be Talia al Ghul. Talia al Ghul is not ??? Team up with Talia subvote unlocked.

[ ] Purchase controlling stock from S.T.A.R. labs
DC 14
Roll 57 + 6 (Pamela Intrigue stat)
Amazing Success

After the explosion at S.T.A.R. labs faith in the think tank is at an all time low. Seeing an opportunity in the air you decided to purchase controlling stock in the company. Dr. Isley was assigned to the task of acquiring as many funds as possible for as cheap as possible. Using LexCorp funds as efficiently as possible has allowed Isley to get a better understanding of the dirty corporate underbelly of business while also acquiring a nice 32% of all of S.T.A.R. labs' stock enabling you to force numerous moves so long as the rest of the board members don't work together to block you.

Results: Pamela Isley Intrigue stat increased by 1. 32% of S.T.A.R. labs stock acquired. Cooperation score between Pamela Isley and Lex Luthor increased by 0.1.

[ ] [Attend] Lex Luthor and Pamela Isley

Lois Lane investigates Ra's al Ghul
At your insistence that her life would be endangered and she would be made a target while the investigation was still ongoing Lois Lane backed down from figuring out who Ra's al Ghul is. Upon the wide scale assault the League of Shadows committed on Metropolis Lois has decided that she was always in danger anyways and feels the people have a right to know what is going on. As such she has requested that you let her know who Ra's al Ghul is. Please select one of the following options
[ ] [reveal] Reveal everything you know about Ra's al Ghul to Lois Lane
[ ] [reveal] Reveal a highly edited version of what you know about Ra's al Ghul to Lois Lane
[ ] [reveal] Lie and reveal incorrect information about Ra's al Ghul to Lois Lane
[ ] [reveal] Reveal nothing to Lois Lane


Ferris' Future
Carol Ferris has come to speak with you personally. Outline what you want from her and her company. Please outline your vote in speech vote format (there is an example of how to format speech votes in the informational section). The more effective you are in your speech, the more you can persuade her to do. Additionally there is the option of whether or not to use the pheromone spray. The pheromone spray will make Carol Ferris highly suggestible but if you get caught it will be super unethical. AS such please write your speech vote as well as voting for one of these two options
[ ] [Spray] Use the pheromone spray
[ ] [Spray] Don't use the pheromone spray

Team up with Talia
Talia al Ghul has offered to team up with you to help resolve the conflict between LexCorp and the League of Shadows. The more you trust Talia the riskier things will be but the more you isolate her the less benefit you'll get from working with her. Please vote for one option
[ ] [Talia] Trust Talia fully when you team up
[ ] [Talia] Let Talia into your inner circle but keep an eye on her
[ ] [Talia] Work regularly with Talia but don't let her in your inner circle
[ ] [Talia] Work through proxies with Talia
[ ] [Talia] Work loosely in tandem with Talia
[ ] [Talia] Refuse to work at all with Talia
we shouldn't get caught shaking hands with the mafia next to a reporter bad PR



that like three to five years away i am pretty sure she is in the military right now

Idk if there was ever a more secretive time to meet the criminal underworld it's when everyone is focused on Wayne, or while we're in the background.
 
[X] [Lex] Speak to Bruce Wayne
[X] [Pamela] Speak to Bruce Wayne
[X] [Lex] Dance with Pamela
[X] [Pamela] Dance with Lex
[X] [Lex] Speak to the woman with the pentacle dress and the woman with the bomber jacket
[X] [Lex] Speak with Lucius Fox
[X][Pamela]Speak with Philip Kane
[X][Pamela]Speak with Katherine Kane
 
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