Lex Sedet In Vertice: A Supervillain in the DCU CK2 quest

What sort of tone should I shoot for with this Quest?

  • Go as crack fueled as you can we want Ambush Bug, Snowflame and Duckseid

    Votes: 30 7.7%
  • Go for something silly but keep a little bit of reason

    Votes: 31 7.9%
  • Adam West Camp

    Votes: 27 6.9%
  • Balanced as all things should be

    Votes: 195 50.0%
  • Mostly serious but not self-involvedly so

    Votes: 73 18.7%
  • Dark and brooding but with light at the end of the tunnel

    Votes: 12 3.1%
  • We're evil and we don't want anyone to be happy

    Votes: 22 5.6%

  • Total voters
    390
  • Poll closed .
The second option already exists but is context dependent (if Superman doesn't wreck public property then you can't charge him with it. Furthermore if a villain punts him through a building Superman is not liable for the damage there as I understand it.
True unless you can prove that Superman acted recklessly somehow, I would think- and similar arguments apply for civil suits. So if Superman fights villains in a way that is likely to result in property damage, you'd have a better case for liability.

The danger, of course, is that if we successfully establish in court that superheroes are liable for damages of a given kind... That may potentially sets precedents we may not want to have to follow ourselves (if, say, we start our own superhero team).

Dude. No. There's a reason we don't do that, PR is King and unless those Rebel Groups and countries are aligned with US Interests doing so will kill our public image.
Since the US is a global superpower, it will normally have a favorite side in any given conflict that it would be willing to let us train. So far, the factions we've backed are factions the US government supported, so no issues with training them would be likely to arise. We can keep an eye on that issue in the future.

And agreed on "desensitizing to death" being unnecessary. If it happens, it should happen naturally. An outside force, especially a parent figure, trying to instill such a sense of uncaring is, in the end, traumatizing for people. It's one thing to remember "that time I had to protect my life and then smell a person dying and decaying." It's another thing to remember "that time father forced me to watch mass executions, while telling me I have to get used to death." The latter sets the villain up for getting patricided.
I just wanted to underline my agreement with this. As long as we make sure Cassandra and Jinx have adult supervision that is competent to make sure they're cared for properly if-and-when someone dies around them, I'm not too worried.
 
The Bronze Age is the most fascinating to me, and seeing how his name was messed up, to "Adrian Zoom", to "Edward Thawnye", makes me wonder what was going on with the editor staff back then.
I think it might be an attempt to Britishize (is that a word?) the name although this is honestly a shot in the dark and still doesn't explain why that change was made.
Besides, the fact that retcons have an in-universe explanation fascinates me
I'd argue that most retcons have an in-universe explanation (Dr. Manhattan fucked with stuff, Superboy-Prime punched the source wall, both Crisis on Infinite Earths and Infinite Crisis etc.). I don't think that an explanation makes something necessarily good but to each their own (there is some contention on this issue and your opinion is just as valid as mine).
I think writers should ask themselves: "What was at the core of Eobard's character from his conception?" As I see it, it's the answer to a question: "What would a bog-standard normal person do if they had suddenly gotten the Flash's powers?" And, oh boy, a normal person is terrifying. All the riches you could take without anybody knowing? All the people who ever slightly wronged you getting their comeuppance and not being able to even respond or comprehend what's happening? All the cheating you could do at, pretty much, anything? It's scary stuff. Eobard was originally envisioned as a criminal even prior to his descent into super-villainy, but even if he wasn't a criminal, the sheer power that the speedsters have could be incredibly corrupting on its own, without even any need for dark magic or somethign like that.
I'd argue that Eobard has never been a bog standard normal person as there always has been an element of the fantastical thrown in there (at the very least he has always been a time traveler). However your point is valid. I think ultimately the distinction in how we are reading the character and interpret what matters is the angle we are approaching it from. You are looking at Zoom in isolation with the input of no over character affecting how he is characterized and I'm looking at Eobard as the final culmination of the Thawne family tree and thus letting those grudges and hates tinge his characterization. Both are in my opinion equally valid but that is where the split is coming from.

Ultimately I do think other characters over characters already fill the niche of "normal person given powers goes and does messed up stuff with them role" (Griffin, Speed Demon and the Rival all fit into this role to some degree) and so having Zoom only fill that role kind of removes the purpose of those characters from existing. That said I will be keeping what you've said in mind and adding more of those elements to Eobard. He won't solely be focused around what you've suggested as the central premise for his character but it will be there.
Well, seeing how even in the context of TROBA the premise is Eobard time traveling "during" a time when he wasn't active, do I get a go-ahead from you to try out my omake idea?
You never need my go ahead for writing an omake (it may not be canon). That said Thawne can't actually retcon anything or change the timeline if you want to play with that. However there are work arounds to it that can allow you to deliver specific story beats (For example he could repeatedly time travel to try and get a date with a woman, slightly disguising himself each time and introducing himself as Eobard, Edward and then Adrien until it works). Feel free to try your idea although if it violates the law of time immutability it will be non-canon.
 
@King crimson
You said that the main theme of The Flash is acceptance and that Wonder Woman, Superman and Batman represent truth justice and hope respectively. What would say is the main theme for the other DC lines?
Working on an informational post regarding that stuff (right alongside the actual update, updates to the fighting styles post and a non-canon omake staring future Cassandra versus the Teen Titans).

However to put it briefly and without any nuance or depth that is critical to understanding my position, Martian Manhunter focuses on isolation, Green Lantern on courage, Superboy is about making your own path in life, Static is about community and Shazam is about idealism. Green Arrow touches a lot on the theme of privilege and what is owed both to you and everyone else.
 
Pygmalion and Elektra
Pygmalion and Electra

Cassandra Luthor smiled charmingly as she inclined her head in a polite nod. "Thank you, Professor Rice. Doctor Isley's instruction on transpiration was very enlightening, but I don't think I really understood everything she was trying to tell me about photosynthesis. Your explanation with regards to chloroplasts and mitochondria definitely helped. I'll talk to day after tomorrow?"

"Of course, Cassandra. You're more than welcome. Take care." Emily Rice tried her best not to think about the girl's bizarre transformation as she quickly signed off their little video conference on her laptop. It was easier to control her unease at the girl's rapid changes while they were focused on instruction. At the moment, the best she could do was reconcile herself to the changes where Cassandra couldn't effectively read her mind and see through any lie.

She tapped away at the keyboard on her laptop from her desk at home, reviewing plant biology for their next session, as she took a sip of coffee. From a more selfish perspective, she felt that starting to tutor Cassandra only after Mr. Luthor had effectively reshaped his daughter in his own image would have been much easier. But that would be a disservice to the shy, awkward, but lovely girl that she'd seen in the few months they'd worked together. And in all honesty, she wasn't sure she could have dealt with teaching Jinx much longer.

Emily sighed, closing the future lesson as she started up a search on child psychology instead. She was a physicist, and didn't intend to risk displeasing Lex Luthor by trying to play psychologist in a role she was unqualified for, but a bit of insight into the situation wouldn't go amiss. It had been helpful in dealing with Jinx- helpful enough that Luthor had been impressed enough to pull out all the stops to recruit her in tutoring his daughter. She smiled ruefully. Whatever her other issues, Jinx was clearly a very lonely girl. She had taken an almost sisterly interest in Cassandra in the past that was distant but incredibly telling given Jinx's normal interactions with people, she hoped the younger Luthor's sudden ability to dance social rings around perhaps 99% of the world didn't drive the two young women apart.

Her skimming paused as she read up on the 'Pygmalion Effect'. It was a study conducted in the late sixties that concluded that if teachers were led to expect enhanced performance from a child, the child's performance was enhanced. Simple enough, and some explanation for Cassandra's high performance- there was little question that whatever his sins Lex Luthor loved and prized his adopted daughter, and she was the ultimate 'daddy's girl', practically hanging on his every word. The imagery itself might have held more truth than the definition however.

The image of Lex Luthor gazing on an abstract stone roughly shaped as an awkward and terrified savage, then picking up a chisel and slowly carving away with a sort of meticulous dedication until he had a flawless statue of a refined genius socialite in it's place was frightening. Of course, Cassandra was clearly always something special, which is why Luthor wanted her... But didn't a great sculptor say they could see the image of their statue in the raw stone before even touching a chisel?

Emily found the change unsettling, but she had no illusions that she could have successfully preserved Cassandra's more innocent and unsophisticated nature if her father planned otherwise. Lex Luthor's charisma and intellect was so intense that being in the same room with him was difficult for adults. Her image strayed to another psychological term linked to the article, 'Electra complex', and she smiled at the dim reflection of herself in the laptop window. Part of getting older was learning to accept your own issues.

"Let's be honest with ourselves, Emily. 'Difficult' is not really the word to use for when you and him are in the same room together. Thank goodness I don't think that is really what's going on with Cassandra. I think she'd know, and I think you'd have seen that when she wasn't as skilled at deception. You find it easy to make that assumption because..." Emily blushed. "Because if it were you instead of Cassandra, it might not be so innocent."

God, being in the same room as him, and listening to his voice... He had to have taken lessons at one point or another, because if Lex Luthor hadn't decided to revolutionize business and science, he could have easily made a fortune as an actor. He had an almost hypnotic voice and a dominating presence that reminded her most of Orson Welles... His wit and sense of humor? It was hard to put a name to it, but if she had to she'd say Buster Keaton. There was a calculated but effective air to everything with Lex Luthor. Maybe that came from his engineering genius.

The more sensible part of her dreaded working as closely with him again as they had been while teaching Cassandra culture and etiquette. The part that had been pining after an older married man like Professor Stein for five years suggested that it would be so much easier to act as Cassandra's tutor if she quit her position at Vandermeer and worked for Luthor directly. The fact that she might get to hear Luthor teach his daughter every day, and maybe get such a wonderful father to consider her in a more than professional capacity, had nothing to do with it... He clearly saw something in Emily already, didn't he?

She rapped the side of her head, closed the psychology article she'd been looking at, shut down her computer, and decided to go to the lab to do some tests on her kryptonite. Which admittedly would be even easier to study at LexCorp. "Lex Luthor is a dangerous man who attracts dangerous situations, Emily. Which is not a good thing! I'm amazed that crazy Sutton woman hasn't made a play for him."
 
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Pygmalion and Electra

Cassandra Luthor smiled charmingly as she inclined her head in a polite nod. "Thank you, Professor Rice. Doctor Isley's instruction on transpiration was very enlightening, but I don't think I really understood everything she was trying to tell me about photosynthesis. Your explanation with regards to chloroplasts and mitochondria definitely helped. I'll talk to day after tomorrow?"

"Of course, Cassandra. You're more than welcome. Take care." Emily Rice tried her best not to think about the girl's bizarre transformation as she quickly signed off their little video conference on her laptop. It was easier to control her unease at the girl's rapid changes while they were focused on instruction. At the moment, the best she could do was reconcile herself to the changes where Cassandra couldn't effectively read her mind and see through any lie.

She tapped away at the keyboard on her laptop from her desk at home, reviewing plant biology for their next session, as she took a sip of coffee. From a more selfish perspective, she felt that starting to tutor Cassandra only after Mr. Luthor had effectively reshaped his daughter in his own image would have been much easier. But that would be a disservice to the shy, awkward, but lovely girl that she'd seen in the few months they'd worked together.

Emily sighed, closing the future lesson as she started up a search on child psychology instead. She was a physicist, and didn't intend to risk displeasing Lex Luthor by trying to play psychologist in a role she was unqualified for, but a bit of insight into the situation wouldn't go amiss. It had been helpful in dealing with Jinx- helpful enough that Luthor had been impressed enough to pull out all the stops to recruit her in tutoring his daughter. She smiled ruefully. Jinx was clearly a very lonely girl but took an almost sisterly interest in Cassandra, she hoped the younger Luthor's sudden ability to dance social rings around perhaps 99% of the world didn't drive them apart.

Her skimming paused as she read up on the 'Pygmalion Effect'. It was a study conducted in the late sixties that concluded that if teachers were led to expect enhanced performance from a child, the child's performance was enhanced. Simple enough, and some explanation for Cassandra's high performance- there was little question that whatever his sins Lex Luthor loved and prized his adopted daughter, and she was the ultimate 'daddy's girl', practically hanging on his every word. The imagery itself might have held more truth than the definition however.

The image of Lex Luthor gazing on an abstract stone roughly shaped as an awkward and terrified savage, then picking up a chisel and slowly carving away with a sort of meticulous dedication until he had a statue of a refined genius socialite in it's place was frightening. Of course, Cassandra was clearly always something special, which is why Luthor wanted her... But didn't great sculptor say they could see the image of their statue simply by examining their raw material?

Emily found the change unsettling, but she had no illusions that she could have successfully preserved Cassandra's more innocent and unsophisticated nature if her father planned otherwise. Lex Luthor's charisma and intellect was so intense that being in the same room with him was difficult for adults. Her image strayed to another psychological term linked to the article, 'Elektra complex', and she smiled at the dim reflection of herself in the laptop window. Part of getting older was learning to accept your own issues.

"Let's be honest with ourselves, Emily. 'Difficult' is not really the word to use for when you and him are in the same room together. Thank goodness I don't think that is really what's going on with Cassandra. I think she'd know, and I think you'd have seen that when she wasn't as skilled at deception. You find it easy to make that assumption because..." Emily blushed. "Because if it were you instead of Cassandra, it might not be so innocent."

God, being in the same room as him, and listening to his voice... He had to have taken lessons at one point or another, because if Lex Luthor hadn't decided to revolutionize business and science, he could have easily made a fortune as an actor. The voice of Morgan Freeman, the presence of Tommy Lee Jones, and wit to surpass any of them.

The more sensible part of her dreaded working as closely with him again as they had been while teaching Cassandra culture and etiquette. The part that had been pining after Martin Stein for five years suggested that it would be so much easier to act as Cassandra's tutor if she quit her position at Vandermeer and worked for Luthor directly. The fact that she might get to hear Luthor teach his daughter every day, and maybe get such a wonderful father to consider her in a more than professional capacity, had nothing to do with it...

She rapped the side of her head, closed the psychology article she'd been looking at, shut down her computer, and decided to go to the lab to do some tests on her kryptonite. Which admittedly would be even easier to study at LexCorp. "Lex Luthor is a dangerous man who attracts dangerous situatons, Emily. Which is not a good thing! I'm amazed that crazy Sutton woman hasn't gotten her hooks in him yet."
This is a nice piece. I had a good amount of fun reading it and I generally liked it. I do think that it is worth noting that even with the three month period of each turn, how fast Cassandra picked up stuff would be really, really disconcerting to anyone who knew her both before and after. While most people at LexCorp wouldn't care (Roxy, Marie, Moon, Helfern, Roxy, Nygma etc.) or would just dismiss it as Luthor's being Luthor's (Mercy, Pamela, Rose etc.) there is a small set of people who would be wildly disconcerted by the rapid shifts and development. You also picked up on a possible thread that could bubble up (Jinx gaining feelings of inferiority and envy towards Cassandra that could drive them apart to some extent). The one thing I will say is that Rice is a little more understanding of Jinx than I would have envisioned her to be but I can account for it with the fact that it's easier to analyze a situation when you are not part of it (Emily was not equipped to teach Jinx and didn't fully get why Jinx behaved the way she did). I'm not sure why Roxanne was picked up on by Emily as someone who was interested in Lex and I'd like a bit of your thought process on how that came about but it in no way keeps it from being canon.

The one thing that keeps it from being canon is the references to real-life people who aren't dead. Until that gets resolved it cannot be canonized (I've got a bit of a policy against it). If you still want to have actors to compare Lex to Orson Welles, Humphrey Bogart, Cary Grant and Vincent Price are all individuals who wouldn't stop you from getting canonized (They've all been dead for 20+ years, are fairly free of any major controversy surrounding them and fulfill a similar criteria of being known for incredible voices and/or presence).

I liked the piece overall and once the fix is made you'll earn 500 exp
 
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You also picked up on a possible thread that could bubble up (Jinx gaining feelings of inferiority and envy towards Cassandra that could drive them apart to some extent).
And if we push her magic as something Cassandra can't do, that'll just mean that Amy turning out to be a supermagical princess from a dimension of magic amplifies the problem.

I think we should do the mini-magi-Mercy thing either next turn or the one after, depending on how urgently we want her to meet Amy.
 
This is a nice piece. I had a good amount of fun reading it and I generally liked it. I do think that it is worth noting that even with the three month period of each turn, how fast Cassandra picked up stuff would be really, really disconcerting to anyone who knew her both before and after. While most people at LexCorp wouldn't care (Roxy, Marie, Moon, Helfern, Roxy, Nygma etc.) or would just dismiss it as Luthor's being Luthor's (Mercy, Pamela, Rose etc.) there is a small set of people who would be wildly disconcerted by the rapid shifts and development. You also picked up on a possible thread that could bubble up (Jinx gaining feelings of inferiority and envy towards Cassandra that could drive them apart to some extent).
I figured both issues were pretty obvious. It's a radical shift in Cassandra's demeanor, and it's pretty obvious that some of Jinx's fondness for her stems from seeing Cassandra as 'clueless' and vulnerable to Jinx's pranks but also in need of her help at times.
The one thing I will say is that Rice is a little more understanding of Jinx than I would have envisioned her to be but I can account for it with the fact that it's easier to analyze a situation when you are not part of it (Emily was not equipped to teach Jinx and didn't fully get why Jinx behaved the way she did).
I didn't want to hammer on the point, but I figured that after working with her for so long Emily grew at least a little fond of Jinx and was proud of her success with her, it's just that teaching Jinx was at the same time torturous and she's glad it's not her problem any longer. I've added a bit more to indicate this, as well as elaborate on the issue with Jinx and Cassandra above.
I'm not sure why Roxanne was picked up on by Emily as someone who was interested in Lex and I'd like a bit of your thought process on how that came about but it in no way keeps it from being canon.
This was a bit complicated and I'm not sure how I would better put it. The idea is that Emily finds Lex Luthor very attractive in the nature of women who might read and enjoy 'Fifty Shades of Grey'. She finds his wealth and intellect and generally dominant attitude attractive, and the danger adds spice, but she has no great knowledge of Luthor or especially Roxy Sutton. (If she did know them both, she'd know a control freak like Lex and a woman like Roxy could never work). She just knows Sutton is rumored to be a big thrill-seeker and is internally acknowledging that sooner or later a woman is likely to 'take' Lex if she doesn't- playing back to how Stein was already 'taken'.
The one thing that keeps it from being canon is the references to real-life people who aren't dead. Until that gets resolved it cannot be canonized (I've got a bit of a policy against it). If you still want to have actors to compare Lex to Orson Welles, Humphrey Bogart, Cary Grant and Vincent Price are all individuals who wouldn't stop you from getting canonized (They've all been dead for 20+ years, are fairly free of any major controversy surrounding them and fulfill a similar criteria of being known for incredible voices and/or presence).

I liked the piece overall and once the fix is made you'll earn 500 exp
Understood and fixed to use different actors. I looked a few things up and I can definitely see a resemblance between my image of Lex Luthor and Orson Welles. I felt that just leaving it to that wasn't exactly right, though, so I did add a bit about his sense of humor that seemed to fit. I'm not sure if the comparison to Buster Keaton is really right, but Bogart and Grant didn't really seem to fit, and I can't see her comparing him to Price. If anyone has some thoughts on that, I'm still open to changing that bit.
 
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She finds his wealth and intellect and generally dominant attitude attractive, and the danger adds spice, but she has no great knowledge of Luthor or especially Roxy Sutton. (If she did know them both, she'd know a control freak like Lex and a woman like Lex could never work). .

Typo here i think, unless i missed something about Lex.
 
And if we push her magic as something Cassandra can't do, that'll just mean that Amy turning out to be a supermagical princess from a dimension of magic amplifies the problem.

I think we should do the mini-magi-Mercy thing either next turn or the one after, depending on how urgently we want her to meet Amy.
I would agree but the issue is that that's an action we really want to succeed as well as possible and is sensitive enough that we can't really afford to entrust it to just anyone

Personally I think we should assign Lex and Cassandra to it with Jinx since that would guarantee a very good roll, has decent odds of increasing her co-op score with them and makes thematic sense. Though before we actually do it I think we should try and get her a pet to increase her co-op score with Lex a little ahead of time

Of course the issue with that is that deciding what to assign Lex to is always a hotly debated topic
 
I would agree but the issue is that that's an action we really want to succeed as well as possible and is sensitive enough that we can't really afford to entrust it to just anyone

Personally I think we should assign Lex and Cassandra to it with Jinx since that would guarantee a very good roll, has decent odds of increasing her co-op score with them and makes thematic sense. Though before we actually do it I think we should try and get her a pet to increase her co-op score with Lex a little ahead of time

Of course the issue with that is that deciding what to assign Lex to is always a hotly debated topic
If we can swing Lex and Cassandra as a team, absolutely. If not, I'm thinking Pamela and Mercy. They're basically the only other heroes that can both do the job and be trusted to do the job, it being Mercy's job means she'll probably make the results better than her contribution to the roll would imply, and Jinx's new trait means we should get a good result. Just not the nearly assured triple crit we'd get from the Luthors.
 
If we can swing Lex and Cassandra as a team, absolutely. If not, I'm thinking Pamela and Mercy. They're basically the only other heroes that can both do the job and be trusted to do the job, it being Mercy's job means she'll probably make the results better than her contribution to the roll would imply, and Jinx's new trait means we should get a good result. Just not the nearly assured triple crit we'd get from the Luthors.
I hadn't considered that, while their combined bonus would only just succeed with Jinx's new trait it would give us a good chance at a far better success

Though I do want to have Cassandra help to increase the odds of her and Jinx's co-op score going up, and Cassandra and Pamela aren't a good combination
 
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Pygmalion and Electra

Cassandra Luthor smiled charmingly as she inclined her head in a polite nod. "Thank you, Professor Rice. Doctor Isley's instruction on transpiration was very enlightening, but I don't think I really understood everything she was trying to tell me about photosynthesis. Your explanation with regards to chloroplasts and mitochondria definitely helped. I'll talk to day after tomorrow?"

"Of course, Cassandra. You're more than welcome. Take care." Emily Rice tried her best not to think about the girl's bizarre transformation as she quickly signed off their little video conference on her laptop. It was easier to control her unease at the girl's rapid changes while they were focused on instruction. At the moment, the best she could do was reconcile herself to the changes where Cassandra couldn't effectively read her mind and see through any lie.

She tapped away at the keyboard on her laptop from her desk at home, reviewing plant biology for their next session, as she took a sip of coffee. From a more selfish perspective, she felt that starting to tutor Cassandra only after Mr. Luthor had effectively reshaped his daughter in his own image would have been much easier. But that would be a disservice to the shy, awkward, but lovely girl that she'd seen in the few months they'd worked together. And in all honesty, she wasn't sure she could have dealt with teaching Jinx much longer.

Emily sighed, closing the future lesson as she started up a search on child psychology instead. She was a physicist, and didn't intend to risk displeasing Lex Luthor by trying to play psychologist in a role she was unqualified for, but a bit of insight into the situation wouldn't go amiss. It had been helpful in dealing with Jinx- helpful enough that Luthor had been impressed enough to pull out all the stops to recruit her in tutoring his daughter. She smiled ruefully. Whatever her other issues, Jinx was clearly a very lonely girl. She had taken an almost sisterly interest in Cassandra in the past that was distant but incredibly telling given Jinx's normal interactions with people, she hoped the younger Luthor's sudden ability to dance social rings around perhaps 99% of the world didn't drive the two young women apart.

Her skimming paused as she read up on the 'Pygmalion Effect'. It was a study conducted in the late sixties that concluded that if teachers were led to expect enhanced performance from a child, the child's performance was enhanced. Simple enough, and some explanation for Cassandra's high performance- there was little question that whatever his sins Lex Luthor loved and prized his adopted daughter, and she was the ultimate 'daddy's girl', practically hanging on his every word. The imagery itself might have held more truth than the definition however.

The image of Lex Luthor gazing on an abstract stone roughly shaped as an awkward and terrified savage, then picking up a chisel and slowly carving away with a sort of meticulous dedication until he had a flawless statue of a refined genius socialite in it's place was frightening. Of course, Cassandra was clearly always something special, which is why Luthor wanted her... But didn't a great sculptor say they could see the image of their statue in the raw stone before even touching a chisel?

Emily found the change unsettling, but she had no illusions that she could have successfully preserved Cassandra's more innocent and unsophisticated nature if her father planned otherwise. Lex Luthor's charisma and intellect was so intense that being in the same room with him was difficult for adults. Her image strayed to another psychological term linked to the article, 'Electra complex', and she smiled at the dim reflection of herself in the laptop window. Part of getting older was learning to accept your own issues.

"Let's be honest with ourselves, Emily. 'Difficult' is not really the word to use for when you and him are in the same room together. Thank goodness I don't think that is really what's going on with Cassandra. I think she'd know, and I think you'd have seen that when she wasn't as skilled at deception. You find it easy to make that assumption because..." Emily blushed. "Because if it were you instead of Cassandra, it might not be so innocent."

God, being in the same room as him, and listening to his voice... He had to have taken lessons at one point or another, because if Lex Luthor hadn't decided to revolutionize business and science, he could have easily made a fortune as an actor. He had an almost hypnotic voice and a dominating presence that reminded her most of Orson Welles... His wit and sense of humor? It was hard to put a name to it, but if she had to she'd say Buster Keaton. There was a calculated but effective air to everything with Lex Luthor. Maybe that came from his engineering genius.

The more sensible part of her dreaded working as closely with him again as they had been while teaching Cassandra culture and etiquette. The part that had been pining after an older married man like Professor Stein for five years suggested that it would be so much easier to act as Cassandra's tutor if she quit her position at Vandermeer and worked for Luthor directly. The fact that she might get to hear Luthor teach his daughter every day, and maybe get such a wonderful father to consider her in a more than professional capacity, had nothing to do with it... He clearly saw something in Emily already, didn't he?

She rapped the side of her head, closed the psychology article she'd been looking at, shut down her computer, and decided to go to the lab to do some tests on her kryptonite. Which admittedly would be even easier to study at LexCorp. "Lex Luthor is a dangerous man who attracts dangerous situations, Emily. Which is not a good thing! I'm amazed that crazy Sutton woman hasn't made a play for him."
This has earned its 500 exp.
@King crimson have the recent changes affected Cassandra's co-op scores any, or do Cassandra and Pamela just distract each other more eloquently than before?
They get distracted more eloquently.
 
They get distracted more eloquently.
[sigh]

I get what you're saying, but on the other hand...

I see it as a balance. There's a good reason why characters with terrible Diplomacy (Ivo, Louise Lincoln, pre-this-turn Cassandra) have bad co-op scores, because they can't communicate and get along with other people well. And there's a good reason not to make "just spend a few thousand XP on diplomacy" a good way to increase a character's co-op scores across the board.

On the other hand, if Cassandra's low co-op was a product of a time when she was literally unable to speak, and then her ability to speak and socialize changes dramatically, you'd expect that to have some effect on how well she gets along with others and can convince them to do what she wants.
 
[sigh]

I get what you're saying, but on the other hand...

I see it as a balance. There's a good reason why characters with terrible Diplomacy (Ivo, Louise Lincoln, pre-this-turn Cassandra) have bad co-op scores, because they can't communicate and get along with other people well. And there's a good reason not to make "just spend a few thousand XP on diplomacy" a good way to increase a character's co-op scores across the board.

On the other hand, if Cassandra's low co-op was a product of a time when she was literally unable to speak, and then her ability to speak and socialize changes dramatically, you'd expect that to have some effect on how well she gets along with others and can convince them to do what she wants.
Iirc her poor co-op score with Pamela is more because of her tendency to spoil her means they tend not to get any work done

Now Pamela probably still spoils her but any time they gained from Cassandra being able to talk is probably lost to her asking questions about plants that Pamela is all too happy to answer
 
Iirc her poor co-op score with Pamela is more because of her tendency to spoil her means they tend not to get any work done

Now Pamela probably still spoils her but any time they gained from Cassandra being able to talk is probably lost to her asking questions about plants that Pamela is all too happy to answer
Point.

Effects of the Diplomacy boosts on co-op scores might well depend on why the co-op was bad.
 
Point.

Effects of the Diplomacy boosts on co-op scores might well depend on why the co-op was bad.
Yeah, I can see Cassandra's co-op score with Marie going up a little since she now understands why she shouldn't stare at her and can actually have a conversation with her now.

Also can I just say how cute I find it that Cassandra keeps giving Lisa things because she knows that she wants something but doesn't know what?
 
[ ] Meet with Saied Kadesh
DC 14
Roll 22
Bare success

Saied Kadesh is now outside of the country and is engaging in a dig in Khandaq. He did speak with your people over the phone and has mentioned that he is currently searching for evidence of the Tomb of Black Adam which most people have confined to folklore though he is convinced exists. He is willing to meet again and speak in more detail once his dig has finished.

Results: Learned of the Tomb of Black Adam in Khandaq, DC to meet with Saied Kadesh again increased for the next two turns.
So I assume Black Adam will revive next turn when Saied Kadesh opens his tomb the same time Superman makes his debut. Should we have Lex + Rebbeca + Cerise personally be there?
 
So I assume Black Adam will revive next turn when Saied Kadesh opens his tomb the same time Superman makes his debut. Should we have Lex + Rebbeca + Cerise personally be there?
EIther next turn or the one after it

Depending on the DC Lex could be a waster, I don't know if I trust Cerise enough to sense her to negotiate with him and if he can sense Rebecca's demonic connections we might have a problem
 
Or fuck it and have Lex Learn Magic next turn.
I think Lex scrapping other plans and personally learning magic would be an excellent Lex response to Superman's debut, one rich with significance that could be played on from a narrative perspective. I'm heartily in favor of it.

Lex+Rebecca+??? on learning magic, and Jinx+Cerise likewise, is what I'd really like to see. Cassandra can study something comparatively mundane but respectable.
 
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