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- Singapore
These are the ones most likely to profit LexCorp.
Hmmm...I'd need some time to think of a suitable Write-In to combine the their best features into one.
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Lex Sedet In Vertice: A Supervillain in the DCU CK2 quest
- Thread starter King crimson
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Hmmm...I'd need some time to think of a suitable Write-In to combine the their best features into one.
King crimson
Confusion Will Be My Epitaph
- Location
- Los Angeles
The vote is now open.
- Location
- Singapore
[ ] [Deal] [Revolution Through Industry] Write-in:-
- Offer to buy ALL of Bito's weapons currently in both his and his organisation's posession.
- Reveal that Roxanne's boss is Lex Luthor and offer him a job working with them.
- Arrange a phone call with Lex on Burner Phone for Lex to do Head-hunting pitch with the theme of "Armed Insurrection is not the way of Human Progress!"
- Suggest/Convince Bito that the man who paid him to attack Kranz & DeLamb is obviously setting him up as a patsy.
- Offer to evacuate him and his men out of the country immediately so as not to be caught in the trap in exchange for the contact details of the man who hired them.
- Attempt to find a way to stay in contact with Bito for the future so we can immigrate them to America.
- Location
- Mid-Atlantic
Classic Roxy.
We tell her to find a guerilla leader, she wanders into guerilla-infested areas with a megaphone yelling into the hills that she wants to talk to him.
I can SO picture this as a DCAU scene.
Yeah pretty much. We don't really care if Bito succeeds or fails. Even if he was a communist, Lex would probably be willing to cut a deal. Cutting deals with commies is kind of a tradition for American capitalism; I bet great-grandpa Louis did.
Hm. Nice gun. I'm mildly impressed.
Of course we can almost certainly replicate that sonic obliterator if we put our mind to it. Wladon may not realize Roxy works for Lex Luthor.
Hmm, something of a limitation, but it has potential.
Mm-HM. Innnteresting.
This suggests that DeLamb (Baron Bedlam) is indeed the third party who's hosting Whisper A'Daire in the country. Wladon invented his tech himself, as I suspected. And if Whisper was working against Baron Bedlam, she wouldn't need a guy like Wladon- she'd have her own alien tech that's as good or better than anything he has, and would probably have armed him with that instead of a gimmick sonic ray gun that only works on one material type at a time.
Meanwhile, we know the king was yelling at Bedlam over what he naively believed was a secure phone line. He was yelling at Bedlam for having worked with "that woman" and brought down NATO on them... and we know NATO is here looking for Whisper.
Conclusion: Baron Bedlam is probably hosting Whisper A'Daire. General Karnz (whose troops and base Lex is personally spying on) is working for Bedlam.
No time to go into this now, but... hm. I think we should ally with him, I don't mind offering him support, and we should probably try to find out who he's working for.
Might be the League of Shadows.
King crimson
Confusion Will Be My Epitaph
- Location
- Los Angeles
This is fine as a vote even if I will say that some of these offers are very one sided in their ambitions and Bito would likely not go for a good number of them (most obviously Bito has no interest in coming to the US now without an incentive as he is specifically anti-royalist and the US has no royalty to depose. As such the proposition benefits you greatly but gives next to nothing to Bito making him unlikely to take it).
The vote is acceptable even if you might want to rethink some of your propositions
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- Location
- Singapore
Ok here goes:-
[ ] [Deal] [Say NO to Patsy] Write-in:-
- Offer to buy ALL of Bito's weapons currently in both his and his organisation's posession.
- Reveal that Roxanne's boss is in the weapons industry and offer him a job working with them.
- Suggest/Convince Bito that the man who paid him to attack Kranz & DeLamb is obviously setting him up as a patsy.
- Offer to evacuate him and his men out of the country temporarily so as not to be caught in the trap in exchange for the contact details of the man who hired them.
- Attempt to find a way to stay in contact with Bito for the future.
King crimson
Confusion Will Be My Epitaph
- Location
- Los Angeles
There are still some flaws with this plan (but all plans are flawed) and it is high risk high reward. However no flaw is too glaring and you don't have any options where you are outright commiting a worthless action like before. I cannot elaborate much more than that as I'd be a little to close to telling you what is the best way to make a deal with Bito.
- Location
- UK
Guys, he is in the middle of a revolution. It is extremely unlikely he would sell us any of his weapons never mind all. Maybe we could ask for samples instead? Plus he probably won't consider joining us until he is finished with his business. So we need to cut a deal with to stay in contact and sound him out on his future plans.
I just feel otherwise we would not make a good impression if he is really invested in his rebellion.
I just feel otherwise we would not make a good impression if he is really invested in his rebellion.
Warmach1ne32
Machine of War and Quests
- Location
- Indonesia
@King crimson, Can we pay him to "agree" to attack Bedlam but instead do nothing? If the man who payed Wladon is the League of Shadows, could Roxy reveal herself and offer a team up?
King crimson
Confusion Will Be My Epitaph
- Location
- Los Angeles
Yes you could attempt to but remember Bito really hates royalty.
Secondly if it is the League of Shadows you can attempt to team up but it would let the League know you are in the country and let them work around you.
@King crimson could we get him on phone with Lex ? Im thinking Lex could explains his philosophy, we can indulge him in going Anti royalist rather than making them Obsolete if he helps us.
Warmach1ne32
Machine of War and Quests
- Location
- Indonesia
@King crimson, we are partners with the League and we both want Whisper dead. Lex wouldn't really care about Markovia specifically so we would likely leave the League to do what they want with it, if they are even interested.
Let's breakdown their motive for using Wladon. We know their goal is to save the planet and don't really care about the status quo or people, that means protecting it against pollution and aliens. Since Markovia isn't a den of crime like Gotham or an ecological disaster waiting to happen, their only goal here is to get Whisper and his alien suppliers. Wladon will be the obvious suspect and will take the blame for whatever the League will do behind the scenes, since he is a known revolutionary who hates royals, they have a motive to do it. The question is, how can we benefit from it?
The obvious option would be to help Wladon overthrow the monarchy, which is really dangerous with NATO in the country, unless we found some human rights violations like weapon experiments on civilians. I am not knowledgeable with how politics worked but the chances of Wladon getting recognition and the monarchy get discredited would benefit Wladon getting the monarchy abolished and when he is probably elected president, we can open a branch in Markovia.
[X] Plan Forging Connections
-[X] [Deal] Offer to buy one of Bito's weapons directly
-[X] [Deal] Reveal that Roxanne's boss is wealthy, influential, and in the weapons industry and interested in allying with him.
-[X] [Deal] Offer information on why NATO is in the country, in exchange for getting to see who Bito is dealing with in two hours time.
-[X] [Deal] Offer to help Bito destabilize and destroy the Markovian monarchy in exchange for (for now) only attacking targets Roxanne's boss approves of.
-[X] [Deal] Attempt to find a way to stay in contact with Bito for the future
Let's breakdown their motive for using Wladon. We know their goal is to save the planet and don't really care about the status quo or people, that means protecting it against pollution and aliens. Since Markovia isn't a den of crime like Gotham or an ecological disaster waiting to happen, their only goal here is to get Whisper and his alien suppliers. Wladon will be the obvious suspect and will take the blame for whatever the League will do behind the scenes, since he is a known revolutionary who hates royals, they have a motive to do it. The question is, how can we benefit from it?
The obvious option would be to help Wladon overthrow the monarchy, which is really dangerous with NATO in the country, unless we found some human rights violations like weapon experiments on civilians. I am not knowledgeable with how politics worked but the chances of Wladon getting recognition and the monarchy get discredited would benefit Wladon getting the monarchy abolished and when he is probably elected president, we can open a branch in Markovia.
[X] Plan Forging Connections
-[X] [Deal] Offer to buy one of Bito's weapons directly
-[X] [Deal] Reveal that Roxanne's boss is wealthy, influential, and in the weapons industry and interested in allying with him.
-[X] [Deal] Offer information on why NATO is in the country, in exchange for getting to see who Bito is dealing with in two hours time.
-[X] [Deal] Offer to help Bito destabilize and destroy the Markovian monarchy in exchange for (for now) only attacking targets Roxanne's boss approves of.
-[X] [Deal] Attempt to find a way to stay in contact with Bito for the future
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Torgamous
Aspiring Gynoid
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We have a solid working relationship with them, but in this specific case we're racing to get the doomsday bomb.
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- UK
I like that plan, but we are not getting enough out of it. At the minimum we want Bito to come work for us I reckon. And for destabilisation, we probably shouldn't get too involved beyond common tech and donations. At the rate Lois is going, she WILL find something. I'm guessing that will just be a matter of time.
- Location
- Mid-Atlantic
We don't actually know that Wladon is working for the League of Shadows, and he himself may not know either. It's a reasonable suspicion, but we don't know.
Helping Wladon right now, after Intergang is defeated and NATO no longer has a reason to stay, would probably be impractical. Slipping the aid into the country later would probably be easier. Besides, we have only a tiny fraction of our resources available right now- we might have a spare briefcase full of cash or something that we could slip him, but not truckloads of weaponry or other support.
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So here's my plan. Buying one of the weapons is probably a good idea, and if Wladon says 'no' it's not the end of the world. We want his tech but we don't need his specific tech..
We want to convince Wladon to ally with us. Hostile space aliens being the reason NATO (and we) are here, and him being a catspaw in the conflict
[X] Plan Forging Connections
-[X] [Deal] Offer to buy one of Bito's weapons directly
-[X] [Deal] Reveal that Roxanne's boss is wealthy, influential, and in the weapons industry and interested in allying with him.
-[X] [Deal] Offer information on why NATO is in the country, in exchange for getting to see who Bito is dealing with in two hours time.
-[X] [Deal] Offer to help Bito destabilize and destroy the Markovian monarchy in exchange for (for now) only attacking targets Roxanne's boss approves of.
-[X] [Deal] Attempt to find a way to stay in contact with Bito for the future
Remember things from Bito's point of view. Why would he abandon a project that means a lot to him (overthrowing the monarchy) to work for us?
Honestly I'd rather Lois find out about us arming Markovian rebels than about, say, our human experimentation project on Intergang members. Arming anti-monarchy rebels is probably outright sympathetic to some people, and is at least "business as usual" for a weapons manufacturer, not "ohmygod you are crazy" territory.
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Warmach1ne32
Machine of War and Quests
- Location
- Indonesia
If we found that Bedlam is doing human experiments on Markovian citizens (which he probably will to test out the alien weapons) we could get an excuse. I'm also changing my vote to your plan.
- Location
- Singapore
[X] Plan Forging Connections
-[X] [Deal] Offer to buy one of Bito's weapons directly
-[X] [Deal] Reveal that Roxanne's boss is wealthy, influential, and in the weapons industry and interested in allying with him.
-[X] [Deal] Offer information on why NATO is in the country, in exchange for getting to see who Bito is dealing with in two hours time.
-[X] [Deal] Offer to help Bito destabilize and destroy the Markovian monarchy in exchange for (for now) only attacking targets Roxanne's boss approves of.
-[X] [Deal] Attempt to find a way to stay in contact with Bito for the future
Hmmm... While I'm anbit wary of triggering the Geo-Force & Terra Origin, lets go with this for how.
-[X] [Deal] Offer to buy one of Bito's weapons directly
-[X] [Deal] Reveal that Roxanne's boss is wealthy, influential, and in the weapons industry and interested in allying with him.
-[X] [Deal] Offer information on why NATO is in the country, in exchange for getting to see who Bito is dealing with in two hours time.
-[X] [Deal] Offer to help Bito destabilize and destroy the Markovian monarchy in exchange for (for now) only attacking targets Roxanne's boss approves of.
-[X] [Deal] Attempt to find a way to stay in contact with Bito for the future
Hmmm... While I'm anbit wary of triggering the Geo-Force & Terra Origin, lets go with this for how.
- Location
- UK
Oh I completely agree. That's why I posted earlier saying it's just not feasible for him to give us all his weapons etc.
I meant that after we have destabilised his regime sufficiently that we hire him. Or even before and he can still run his rebels through proxies (cautiously ofc).
And concerning Lois, again yeah I agree but shouldn't stop us trying to hide things. Plus I suggested that we keep only to supplying resources and no more. Atleast to something that can kinda spin to at least not be negative.
King crimson
Confusion Will Be My Epitaph
- Location
- Los Angeles
Yes you could (wouldn't be a phone but yes). Granted I give no guarantee that such an action would work.
I am aware. However others have expressed that they do not want the League to gain access to the doomsday device. Furthermore it invites suspicion onto you as you were told the League would handle it and yet here you are interfering in the affair without coordinating with the League. It could potentially cause fractures in your alliance.
- Location
- Israel
[X] Plan Forging Connections
-[X] [Deal] Offer to buy one of Bito's weapons directly
-[X] [Deal] Reveal that Roxanne's boss is wealthy, influential, and in the weapons industry and interested in allying with him.
-[X] [Deal] Offer information on why NATO is in the country, in exchange for getting to see who Bito is dealing with in two hours time.
-[X] [Deal] Offer to help Bito destabilize and destroy the Markovian monarchy in exchange for (for now) only attacking targets Roxanne's boss approves of.
-[X] [Deal] Attempt to find a way to stay in contact with Bito for the future
Okay, how trusty is Bito? Can we fully trust him, or are we not trusting him right at the moment?
-[X] [Deal] Offer to buy one of Bito's weapons directly
-[X] [Deal] Reveal that Roxanne's boss is wealthy, influential, and in the weapons industry and interested in allying with him.
-[X] [Deal] Offer information on why NATO is in the country, in exchange for getting to see who Bito is dealing with in two hours time.
-[X] [Deal] Offer to help Bito destabilize and destroy the Markovian monarchy in exchange for (for now) only attacking targets Roxanne's boss approves of.
-[X] [Deal] Attempt to find a way to stay in contact with Bito for the future
Okay, how trusty is Bito? Can we fully trust him, or are we not trusting him right at the moment?
Torgamous
Aspiring Gynoid
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- She/Her
We can trust him to fight the monarchy. Think of him as Pamela and the royal family as pollution. Like, for the buying a gun thing, buying all the guns cripples his ability to fight and is likely to be rejected, buying one gun is less bad but still needs to weigh the immediate utility of a gun against the eventual utility of money, and just asking for his notes in exchange for first dibs on any weapons we develop from them would, if anything, be seen as too good to be true.
King crimson
Confusion Will Be My Epitaph
- Location
- Los Angeles
So random fun fact while I'm working on the T.O. Morrow in Russia interlude but the A.M.A.Z.O. in the A.M.A.Z.O. project stands for Augmented Machine Achieving Zenith Operation
King crimson
Confusion Will Be My Epitaph
- Location
- Los Angeles
There is nothing important about my fun fact other than it indicates that I like acronyms (at least as far as I can tell others could read into it more).
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- Location
- United States
[X] Plan Forging Connections