Sirrocco
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So... @King crimson - has Cobblepot started sponsoring any "superheroes"?
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Lex Sedet In Vertice: A Supervillain in the DCU CK2 quest
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I will not confirm or deny anything beyond stating that as of this turn, Lex Luthor has no knowledge of Cobblepot sponsoring any "superheroes".
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So if Lex will have any information, then we (playerbase) will read about this in either "other characters's actions" or World News?
Hi everyone,
I've been thinking, and I believe exosuits are the most critical weapon for our future. Here's why:
I've been thinking, and I believe exosuits are the most critical weapon for our future. Here's why:
- Exosuits are highly valued by the military, making them most suited to strengthen our ties.
- They allow for more powerful, mobile weapons than alternatives (e.g., a laser on an exosuit is stronger than a laser rifle and more agile than laser artilery).
- They're our best counter to Zod—offering superior aerial mobility, resistance to heat vision, and high damaging abilities
- Custom suits for heroes like Katherine and Mercy will enhance their ability to protect us during invasions when we're spread thin.
- Rose's Ravager armor, combined with hers and Cassandra's traits, gives +35 to each combat roll on 28 Martial. Upgrading it could enable her to overpower Kryptonians, making her essential to fighting Zod.
I'm 100% on board with putting some more work into our exosuits soon, I've wanted to equip Kate with one for ages. Though an argument could be made that we should try to squeeze out as many relevant Brainiac techs as we can first so whatever we develop isn't immediately rendered irrelevant.
It's also worth remembering that exosuits don't enhance the Martial stat of the unit using them, they replace them soot would be worth our time to ensure that they're the best we can possibly make them.
I've been wanting more engineers for a while now so getting one or two in the next round of recruitment would let us focus on power armor and still keep working on what we currently are.
I'm just double checking what obligations do we need to meet? I know we have the League of Shadows but can't remember what else atm.
We also aren't 100% sure though when Zod will get set off. It might be worth having outdated exosuits now, we can sell off old inventory if need be.
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Off the top of my head:
We need to actually build ODIN ( a Kyryptonite laser equipped satellite defense grid).
We (Lex specifically) needs to do a speaking tour of Japan about metahumans and supers at some point.
We need to reverse engineer Brainiacs cloaking drones and Atlantean water blades for the League.
Help Enoch get even with the people in Gotham who banned him in the city and mocked him( We're hoping to make his growth formula a success will be enough)
We've technically fulfilled obligations for improved aircraft and combat capable spacesuits for the military but I'd like to do them again.
There's also an out of date list which could be helpful even if we've done some of the stuff on it.
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There is also general wells laser rifle, and some work to arm task force 8, and probably getting a less pro superman president elected.
King crimson
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So this is mostly just a status report as to how things are looking. Nothing will get done before the 18th. That being said the update is making good forward progress and I have more or less the entire skeleton of the Founding Families of Gotham Interlude complete.
With regards to the interludes I'll give a bit of potential hype and say that in said interlude, you'll get to see the founding of Gotham, the formation of the Court of Owls, the naming of the Court of Owls, and the creation of a calamity. I don't think anyone comes out looking particularly good by the time the interlude's done and I hope once you've read it (if you do), that you hate the Court of Owls more than you did before reading it.
With regards to the interludes I'll give a bit of potential hype and say that in said interlude, you'll get to see the founding of Gotham, the formation of the Court of Owls, the naming of the Court of Owls, and the creation of a calamity. I don't think anyone comes out looking particularly good by the time the interlude's done and I hope once you've read it (if you do), that you hate the Court of Owls more than you did before reading it.
So... personal mental checklist ahead of time. I know that this will likely be upended when the new actions appear, and too early to decide anything definitively but just trying to get an idea. Also we probably aren't going "this" hard on Exo-Suits. But assuming we were and were getting engineers. At least 13 actions are left open in this (based on how many actions we had this past turn.) more if we trim some of the exo-suit stuff because I almost certainly went overboard. Let me know if I missed any "essentials" or if you have any suggestions or refinements to this.
Martial (4) [Notes: Super Hero stuff, exo-suit trials and giving LexCorp new equipment]
-[ ] Improve LexCorp forces equipment
-[ ] Crush all criminals
-[ ] Improve exo-suit user interface
-[ ] Improve exo-suit mobility {Rose Wilson?}
Diplomacy (4) [Notes: Obligations and getting engineers]
-[ ] Donate more to reconstruction efforts
-[ ] Meet with the League of Shadows
-[ ] Recruit talented scientists
-[ ] Recruit more programmers
Stewardship (5) [Notes: Repairing Metropolis and military investment, the Lifter Exosuits are also just useful to have, if nothing else will hopefully generate a tidy profit.]
-[ ] Continue to repair Metropolis
-[ ] Begin building the O.D.I.N. system proper
-[ ] Begin producing more exosuits
-[ ] Begin producing more vehicles
-[ ] Produce more lifter exosuits
Intrigue (2) [Notes: Just good to have a worldwide spy network, also just in case people want to punch back.]
-[ ] Create a worldwide spy network
-[ ] Sabotage a rival company {Not sure if we are actually doing this one}
--[] Wayne Enterprises
Learning (9) [Notes: Using our new geneticist, Exosuit and reverse engineering push. Taking advantage of our laser tech improvements. While our demonology lab means it should be super easy for Learn about Demonology, I presume we likely want to analyze the Tantu Totem first?]
-[ ] Learn about genetics {Catherine Devereux, Pamela Isley?, Karl Hefern?}
-[ ] Learn about the Tantu Totem {Mari McCabe, Mina Chayton, Rebecca Carstairs}
-[ ] Improve Exosuits {Fixit}
-[ ] Improve Enoch Brown's animal growth formula {Enoch Brown, Arthur Villain, Karl Helfern?}
-[ ] Reverse engineer Atlantean water blades {Caitlin Snow}
-[ ] Attempt to reverse engineer Brainiac's cloaking system {Robert Frost}
-[ ] Attempt to reverse engineer leftover Brainiac technology {Meena Dhawan, Felicity Smoak}
-[ ] Develop a new standard laser rifle for General Wells
-[ ] Develop spacesuits
-[ ] Improve LexCorp forces equipment
-[ ] Crush all criminals
-[ ] Improve exo-suit user interface
-[ ] Improve exo-suit mobility {Rose Wilson?}
Diplomacy (4) [Notes: Obligations and getting engineers]
-[ ] Donate more to reconstruction efforts
-[ ] Meet with the League of Shadows
-[ ] Recruit talented scientists
-[ ] Recruit more programmers
Stewardship (5) [Notes: Repairing Metropolis and military investment, the Lifter Exosuits are also just useful to have, if nothing else will hopefully generate a tidy profit.]
-[ ] Continue to repair Metropolis
-[ ] Begin building the O.D.I.N. system proper
-[ ] Begin producing more exosuits
-[ ] Begin producing more vehicles
-[ ] Produce more lifter exosuits
Intrigue (2) [Notes: Just good to have a worldwide spy network, also just in case people want to punch back.]
-[ ] Create a worldwide spy network
-[ ] Sabotage a rival company {Not sure if we are actually doing this one}
--[] Wayne Enterprises
Learning (9) [Notes: Using our new geneticist, Exosuit and reverse engineering push. Taking advantage of our laser tech improvements. While our demonology lab means it should be super easy for Learn about Demonology, I presume we likely want to analyze the Tantu Totem first?]
-[ ] Learn about genetics {Catherine Devereux, Pamela Isley?, Karl Hefern?}
-[ ] Learn about the Tantu Totem {Mari McCabe, Mina Chayton, Rebecca Carstairs}
-[ ] Improve Exosuits {Fixit}
-[ ] Improve Enoch Brown's animal growth formula {Enoch Brown, Arthur Villain, Karl Helfern?}
-[ ] Reverse engineer Atlantean water blades {Caitlin Snow}
-[ ] Attempt to reverse engineer Brainiac's cloaking system {Robert Frost}
-[ ] Attempt to reverse engineer leftover Brainiac technology {Meena Dhawan, Felicity Smoak}
-[ ] Develop a new standard laser rifle for General Wells
-[ ] Develop spacesuits
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Hello everyone,
I believe we shouldn't wait for more technology to develop new exosuits. Instead, we should focus on creating mass-producible models, specialized in fighting Kryptonians, and selling them widely. Our models would need:
I'd also like to point out two "Martial" actions to consider for next turn
Hello @King crimson, I hope I'm not bothering you. Have you had a chance to think about the informational post on politicians? Also, when we fire people, do they still make their assigned action that turn?
I believe we shouldn't wait for more technology to develop new exosuits. Instead, we should focus on creating mass-producible models, specialized in fighting Kryptonians, and selling them widely. Our models would need:
- High aerial maneuverability and speed – Untrained Kryptonians struggle with aerial control.
- Laser resistance – To counter heat vision and lower friendly fire
- Powerful kryptonite lasers – Already designed last turn.
- Ease of use – So users can quickly master them before the invasion.
- Bonus features – Sound-based attacks
I'd also like to point out two "Martial" actions to consider for next turn
Hello @King crimson, I hope I'm not bothering you. Have you had a chance to think about the informational post on politicians? Also, when we fire people, do they still make their assigned action that turn?
Thoughts on developing space exosuits or just focus on improving normal exosuits?
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I'm pretty sure this exists already, and more importantly, we have more exosuits than we have people to use them and anything less than a power suit is going to fall short of a Kryptonian soldier. The US is mass producing suits as well. Not as good as ours, but still, they have them.
The Kryptonian invasion solution is not slow, human soldiers in suits that don't make them nearly strong enough to deal with Kryptonians. We have come up with two Ace on the holes as it were for a Kryptonian solution, and those are grand scale, highly advanced ODIN final product, and having Ultra Violet learn to generate kryptonite radiation so she can take down important kryptonian leaders. These are much more elegant and concealable solutions than Lexcorp making thousands of exosuits we don't have pilots for.
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Do not worry, you see I also have to deal with Finals. So I understand how it feels.
If Exo-suit upgrades enable lucky shots on some of these soldiers that is worth it, and its not like we can't also pursue O.D.I.N. and getting Ultra Violet Kryptonite Radiation. We can also I think sell old stock by "Selling Close to Home" if I remember correctly so if we overproduce we can bring ourselves back down to slightly more than what we need. Also wouldn't Exo-Suits be good fire support for Ultra Violet adding supplementary kryptonite beams? Though I will acknowledge we should get more soldiers and security staff.
Basically I am not denying those are the ace in the holes, but we should have stuff to make those ace in the holes harder to attack. (Though arguably, wards and magical effects can achieve a similar purpose.)
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The point is we aren't going to produce a notable improvement to exosuits and mass produce them cheaply, and focusing on exosuits this way while balancing our commitments is likely to compromise our efforts to bring about our ace in the whole. Exosuits using kryptonite batteries are the spiffy new war machine of the American Army. We have 3 different exo-suits and 1000 models of our newest model made sometimes in the lead up to brainiac. It'a a good idea that doesn't hold up to it's competition for our limited actions and hero unit resources.
Ehh agree to disagree. I don't think it will be impossible to balance our commitments, exosuits and ace in the holes. Especially since one of the two is one of our commitments. On an aside thoughts on Lifter Exosuit production for profit and construction (I don't see Lifter exosuits in Character Information 1) to justify improving Exosuits going through if their usefulness against Kryptonians is not compelling? I'll think over the action economy some more and probably relocate some actions in my draft.
King crimson
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You're not bothering me, you're just very much not my priority. I'm literally writing my response to you on my phone as I walk back from having taken a final that's many hours long.
As for the informational post on politicians, I have had a chance to think it over. Frankly I'm going to lean on no. So many positions have political elements to them, there are so many different levels of government that could be relevant (local, county, state, federal is the simple way to break it down) and enough motion going on at any given time that I don't feel like I can give a good informational post covering all or even most politicians that won't quickly become outdated/vestigial. As such I'm leaning on no. I'm not going to 100% rule it out but as of right now it feels like too much work for not enough payout.
In general if you fire someone on the same turn you assign them to the action, they will contribute to said action knowing they would be fired. How they'll act is dependent on the character in question. Does that clarify things?
We have also just agreed to provide Austria with exosuits which now that I think about it synergises quite well with our desire to improve them somewhat. Though it's not an imminent obligation.
Off the top of my head:
We'll want to do something about the Church of Blood
Maybe meet with some other heroes
Take a few Stewardship actions related to expansion and/or undermining Wayne
Have Fixit work on the LMD's a bit more
Spend a turn improving ODIN tech before we actually build it.
Unfortunately I don't think that selling exosuits widely will ever be feasible. It's been made pretty clear that they're not something the government wants a regular citizen to be able to get their hands on, understandably so, so the bets we could do without risking burning our bridges would be to sell them to as many governments as we can.
I don't think we're in that much if a time crunch for anti-kryptonian weapons, mechanically the last big event was only four turns ago and narratively it's been made pretty clear that Zod fully intend to be slow and steady here.
I think there's room and time for both options. ODIN and Ultraviolet being able to deal with Kryptonians is probably the most directly beneficial to us but being able to equip the worlds militaries with an improved exosuit that makes them more likely to survive and take down a Kryptonian in the process will also help in the larger scale.
We sold some to Cobblepot with their permission so clearly they aren't super worried about people getting them. But yeah even then not many people except a government are going to be able to buy enough of the mass produced exosuits to actually fight a Kryptonian. Selling Exosuits to NATO countries and US allies should be possible. It might not do much in the end but it's better then nothing.
Cobblepot is the exception that proves the rule, he literally had to trade the government a top secret Russian submarine in order to be granted a license to own, never mind use, a couple of exosuits. At absolute mist the top 1% could maybe afford to equip their personally bodyguards with them.
Austria isn't a NATO member but it does have close ties with many NATO countries due to it being in the EU.
While building ODIN and training Ultraviolet have merit, they do not substitute a planet-wide strategy. For example, ODIN won't have the field of vision to hit targets globally.
Additionally, Ultraviolet isn't the best hero for confronting Kryptonian leaders. Even after training, she'd still be less effective than Raven, Mina, and Nightshade, who have more specialized capabilities against Kryptonians, leverage Cassandra's trait, and don't require as much training.
While ODIN should remain a big focus, training Ultraviolet is useful but largely secondary.
Specialized exosuits, while not a complete solution, offer a scalable way to exploit Kryptonian weaknesses. Deployed en masse, they'd use avoidance tactics, Kryptonite poisoning, and chip damage to bolster existing forces and make ordinary soldiers useful.
Regarding exosuit numbers and pilots, you are incorrect:
Improving our exosuits (DC 20), creating a specialized model (DC 39), mass-producing it (DC 12), and selling it (DC 9/45) isn't hard. It will help us establish ourselves as the biggest contributors to stopping the invasion, giving us massive reach and maximizing our impact globally.
Plus, our Austrian contract.
Kryptonians can't breathe in space.
What about a list of presidential candidates?