Lex Sedet In Vertice: A Supervillain in the DCU CK2 quest

What sort of tone should I shoot for with this Quest?

  • Go as crack fueled as you can we want Ambush Bug, Snowflame and Duckseid

    Votes: 30 7.7%
  • Go for something silly but keep a little bit of reason

    Votes: 31 7.9%
  • Adam West Camp

    Votes: 27 6.9%
  • Balanced as all things should be

    Votes: 195 50.0%
  • Mostly serious but not self-involvedly so

    Votes: 73 18.7%
  • Dark and brooding but with light at the end of the tunnel

    Votes: 12 3.1%
  • We're evil and we don't want anyone to be happy

    Votes: 22 5.6%

  • Total voters
    390
  • Poll closed .
Is it necessary for any theme parks we build to be in Maryland?
Not really, I was mainly just thinking that we'd want it to be near Metropolis but realistically we could build it anywhere

Hell if we're going to be increasing our presence in Jump City we could build it there, California is a major theme park location for a reason

EDIT: We also own the entirety of Houston, Idaho but I'm not sure how good a location that would be
 
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Not really, I was mainly just thinking that we'd want it to be near Metropolis but realistically we could build it anywhere

Hell if we're going to be increasing our presence in Jump City we could build it there, California is a major theme park location for a reason

EDIT: We also own the entirety of Houston, Idaho but I'm not sure how good a location that would be
"LexCorp Theme Park" really does sound like the perfect setting for an episode of Teen Titans, now that you mention it.
 
True, I'd forgotten that

And damn it now I really do want to build a theme park! Though of course if we ever were to do it it would have to be in a while because we're going to be busy with a lot more important things in the near future

Though actually on that note @Simon_Jester as the local expert on Maryland do you think a theme park would work near Metropolis or would we need to build it elsewhere?
There could easily be a couple of theme parks within a few dozen miles of Metropolis.

Metropolis sits astride the Patuxent River, with most of the big civic architecture and rich neighborhoods north of the river, and most of the slum areas and kinda decaying industrial-warehousing zones south of it. The north side of the river is in Calvert County, the south side is in St. Mary's County, though it's very much possible that Metropolis is incorporated as its own county-level administrative division, the same way Baltimore is, for exactly the same reason. I'd leave that to @King crimson 's decision.

Now, southern Maryland is significantly more built-up and suburbanized because there's a whole 'nother Baltimore-sized city plunked down in it...

(Baltimore, Metropolis, and Washington D.C. form roughly an isosceles triangle, with Baltimore and Metropolis (joined by Interstate I-97) forming the the base, and DC forming the tip)

...But there's plenty of places to put a theme park on land that used to be someone's plantation or scrubby waste forest, somewhere in St. Mary's County or northern Calvert County or maybe southwestern Prince George's.

The real big name theme parks are closer to the equator to begin with, but there were already a few in that rough general area (Busch Gardens, King's Dominon).
There's a Six Flags near-ish to DC, but that may be pretty minor compared to the parks down in Virginia.

For local parks, you basically need cheap land that's relatively accessible to large population centers. It's a little hard to get the land in the DC-to-Boston corridor, and Metropolis will have made that worse, but if you're willing to head inland a bit you can get some.
You absolutely could, especially if the park was founded at some point before the suburban sprawl really went nuts. DC and Metropolis are something like fifty miles apart, so the two cities wouldn't be completely infilled together for quite a long time.

And the area south and southwest of Metropolis is gonna be a backwater except for housing some of the suburbs of Metropolis, so there's space there as far as I know.

Making Disney-tier megaparks requires quite a lot of cheap land, and excellent weather, which Maryland does not have.
Yeah. Maryland is cold enough in the winter that people don't really want to go to theme parks, but hot and importantly humid enough in the summer that it's kind of a drag.

Then again, there's a Disney World in Florida, which has both hurricanes and Florida.
 
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That's fair and reading more of the Metropolitan Clan omakes we could just have a general American history section with references to how important the Luthor's have been to the US, though we'd have to be careful both because of the unfortunate parts of the Luthor family history we wouldn't want to draw attention to and because the US has a weird thing about not wanting to acknowledge that the Confederacy were a bunch of slave owning traitors, and I think Leland's ghost would come back to haunt us if we implied they were anything otherwise
Thought I mentioned this, but want to make a special point of this.

Leland Luthor didn't give a shit about abolition. His corporation- not, strictly, him personally, but his corporation- was the largest slaveowner in the state of Maryland by a sizeable margin right up until it became illegal to own slaves in Maryland. LS&S might have been up there with some of the biggest slaveowners of the South, too; I don't think I could nail the number down that well.

Leland Luthor barely gave a shit about secession and preserving the Union.

Leland Luthor's grudge against the Confederacy was motivated by two major factors.

1) The Confederates kept burning, smashing, sinking, or confiscating his stuff- sometimes more than one of these at the same time.

2) More importantly, the Confederates killed his dad, at which point he went full mad scientist on their asses.
 
Thought I mentioned this, but want to make a special point of this.

Leland Luthor didn't give a shit about abolition. His corporation- not, strictly, him personally, but his corporation- was the largest slaveowner in the state of Maryland by a sizeable margin right up until it became illegal to own slaves in Maryland. LS&S might have been up there with some of the biggest slaveowners of the South, too; I don't think I could nail the number down that well.

Leland Luthor barely gave a shit about secession and preserving the Union.

Leland Luthor's grudge against the Confederacy was motivated by two major factors.

1) The Confederates kept burning, smashing, sinking, or confiscating his stuff- sometimes more than one of these at the same time.

2) More importantly, the Confederates killed his dad, at which point he went full mad scientist on their asses.
Oh absolutely, the slave owning is probably something we'd be better off acknowledging as an unfortunate aspect of the Luthor family history and condemning rather than pretending it didn't happen since that's a sure fire way to have our reputation dragged through the mud for rewriting history by the likes of Lois Lane

Though we could also slip in a few mentions of her ancestor having been complicit in it…
 
Oh absolutely, the slave owning is probably something we'd be better off acknowledging as an unfortunate aspect of the Luthor family history and condemning rather than pretending it didn't happen since that's a sure fire way to have our reputation dragged through the mud for rewriting history by the likes of Lois Lane

Though we could also slip in a few mentions of her ancestor having been complicit in it…
Eh, it's 1990s America. Everyone kind of avoids talking about it, and I don't think someone like Lois Lane is going to get too snipe-ey about what a man's great-great-great-grandfather did.
 
Eh, it's 1990s America. Everyone kind of avoids talking about it, and I don't think someone like Lois Lane is going to get too snipe-ey about what a man's great-great-great-grandfather did.
It depends, if we just pretend the Luthor family had nothing to do with slavery while celebrating the actions of those same Luthors it's only a matter of time before someone brings that incongruity to light whereas if we at least acknowledge and condemn it we future proof ourselves against that criticism
 
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It depends, if we just pretend the Luthor family had nothing to do with slavery while celebrating the actions of those same Luthors it's only a matter of time before someone brings that incongruity to light whereas if we at least acknowledge and condemn it we future proof ourselves against that criticism
I'd say... a dignified and understated acknowledgement of the regrettable historical fact is the sort of thing that would cost us very little, and might actually gain some appreciation. Basically, we want LexCorp to be just a bit ahead of the curve on acceptance for the moment. It's cheap moral high ground, and moral high ground is a resource.
 
I'd say... a dignified and understated acknowledgement of the regrettable historical fact is the sort of thing that would cost us very little, and might actually gain some appreciation. Basically, we want LexCorp to be just a bit ahead of the curve on acceptance for the moment. It's cheap moral high ground, and moral high ground is a resource.
Exactly and if we really wanted to go the extra mile we could donate some money or a percentage of the income from that part of the park to an anti-slavery or reparations charity
 
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So @King crimson something I've been wondering, if we were to push our research into Gingo Fruit some more would we be able to create Gingold and if so would it be the weird kind of poisonous soft drink that gave Elongated Man his powers from the comic or the normal alcoholic drink from Arrow?
 
Presumably, we could create a drink and name it Gingold any time we like.

The reason we've been interested in Gingo Fruit is because of the possibility of conferring the Elongated Man's powers, and it's heavily implied that the fruit and preparations from it are used by tribal shamans to get some degree of this power.
 
Presumably, we could create a drink and name it Gingold any time we like.

The reason we've been interested in Gingo Fruit is because of the possibility of conferring the Elongated Man's powers, and it's heavily implied that the fruit and preparations from it are used by tribal shamans to get some degree of this power.
Oh I know, I'm just curious if a secondary benefit of it would be being able to produce a successful drink as a side product/ cover for what we were actually doing as well as if the actual drink itself gives powers

On a related note my curiosity had me look into other drinks in the DC universe and the two big ones if we ever wanted to get into that industry are Soder Cola, which is basically just regular coke, and Zesti Cola, which if KC is keeping the one story that involves it actually uses highly addictive magic water as it's key ingredient
 
If Zesti Cola is doing that, we would have no way of knowing IC and I'm pretty sure King wouldn't tell us OOC.

Though if they are, and Soder Cola is somehow keeping up, then damn but I'm impressed! :D
 
If Zesti Cola is doing that, we would have no way of knowing IC and I'm pretty sure King wouldn't tell us OOC.

Though if they are, and Soder Cola is somehow keeping up, then damn but I'm impressed! :D
That's pretty much my thoughts exactly

It has me thinking that if we were to theoretically buy one of them, not that we really have any reason to, what would be better the one that manages to keep up with a cheating competitor but doesn't have anything else special or the one that has access to weird magic water we could study but would be in a lot of trouble if they'd ere ever found out?
 
So @King crimson something I've been wondering, if we were to push our research into Gingo Fruit some more would we be able to create Gingold and if so would it be the weird kind of poisonous soft drink that gave Elongated Man his powers from the comic or the normal alcoholic drink from Arrow?
Yes. More seriously and more exactly both options are potentially possibilities though they might not be exactly what you expect them to be. I've got my own takes on stuff but "broadly empowering drink", "semi-poisonous soft-drink" and "alcoholic beverage" are all more or less potential dividends from researching the fruit.
If Zesti Cola is doing that, we would have no way of knowing IC and I'm pretty sure King wouldn't tell us OOC.
Someone who won the prize of getting to ask for OOC information in a contest actually asked me about this very question. I can confirm that I will no longer answer this in thread but there is a definitive answer one way or another.
 
Yes. More seriously and more exactly both options are potentially possibilities though they might not be exactly what you expect them to be. I've got my own takes on stuff but "broadly empowering drink", "semi-poisonous soft-drink" and "alcoholic beverage" are all more or less potential dividends from researching the fruit.
In that case I'd definitely go for the alcohol, a soft drink that gives everyone powers or kills some of the people that drink it just don't seem like good ideas
Someone who won the prize of getting to ask for OOC information in a contest actually asked me about this very question. I can confirm that I will no longer answer this in thread but there is a definitive answer one way or another.
Was this question asked/answered in thread? The only sign I can find is some conversation discussing the Well of Addad being in Santa Prisca
 
In that case I'd definitely go for the alcohol, a soft drink that gives everyone powers or kills some of the people that drink it just don't seem like good ideas
Well, if it grants superpowers but sometimes kills people, we can figure out why it kills them and make it stop.

If it's just booze, then it's just booze. No use to us. Sure, we can sell booze for money, but any action we take potentially yields something we can sell for money, so there's no real reward in "a way to make money" that far outside our core competencies when we have a jillion low-DC actions to mass produce or develop things we already know well.
 
Well, if it grants superpowers but sometimes kills people, we can figure out why it kills them and make it stop.

If it's just booze, then it's just booze. No use to us. Sure, we can sell booze for money, but any action we take potentially yields something we can sell for money, so there's no real reward in "a way to make money" that far outside our core competencies when we have a jillion low-DC actions to mass produce or develop things we already know well.
Oh absolutely it's more important to gain the power aspect of thing but I was thinking as a side benefit/ if we were to sell one of them as a product the alcohol would be the best one
 
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