FATHER QUEST - A Cartoon Network: Villains Victorious CK2-Style Quest Cross Over
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[X] I don't hate children, I hate most children.
You see HANK, it's not that I hate children per se, it's that I hate loud, rowdy, DISOBEYING CHILDREN that meddle into my business and THROW SPACE HABITATS INTO MY LOVELY HOME! You ever had a gigantic tree house dropped into you from orbit? It's VERY annoying.
As such, since their parents APPARENTLY can't reel them in, it is only expected that, as a PROPER adult with WORLD BREAKING fire-powers, I teach those DAMN kids how to be PRODUCTIVE members of society.
So you see, Hank and the MENAGERIE OF FOOLS that calls themselves villains watching this, the reason I do what I do and why I AM a villain despite being morally correct, is that I, like any proper dictator, IMPOSE MY ORDERS UPON ANY OPPONENT! Be it the villains that I gathered to destroy the K.N.D, the rowdy kids themselves, the IDIOTIC SPACE STONES that think they can take over my yard or the UPJUMPED ZOO ATTRACTIONS that believe they can teach me, ME, how to be a proper villain.
I like this one because, Shots Fired
You see HANK, it's not that I hate children per se, it's that I hate loud, rowdy, DISOBEYING CHILDREN that meddle into my business and THROW SPACE HABITATS INTO MY LOVELY HOME! You ever had a gigantic tree house dropped into you from orbit? It's VERY annoying.
As such, since their parents APPARENTLY can't reel them in, it is only expected that, as a PROPER adult with WORLD BREAKING fire-powers, I teach those DAMN kids how to be PRODUCTIVE members of society.
So you see, Hank and the MENAGERIE OF FOOLS that calls themselves villains watching this, the reason I do what I do and why I AM a villain despite being morally correct, is that I, like any proper dictator, IMPOSE MY ORDERS UPON ANY OPPONENT! Be it the villains that I gathered to destroy the K.N.D, the rowdy kids themselves, the IDIOTIC SPACE STONES that think they can take over my yard or the UPJUMPED ZOO ATTRACTIONS that believe they can teach me, ME, how to be a proper villain.
I like this one because, Shots Fired
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Chronobreak
Chara Appreciator
- Location
- Chicago
- Pronouns
- He/Him
[ ] DISOWN IT
I refuse to take the Mild Bobby Sauce.
[X] I DON'T KNOW
I refuse to take the Mild Bobby Sauce.
[X] I DON'T KNOW
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Modus_Tollens
SCREAMING AT THE APOCALYPSE
- Location
- ALSO SCREAMING.
Internally I'd spin that as... taking steps to further and coopt the dystopia. Hero as much as, in another cosmology, Sasai Arasaka is: Playing the game until its your game, then rewriting the rules one at a time until the world is a cruel parody of itself in your image. Even the Devil has made the odd deal, helped the odd fellow out, even been thanked for it. But we all know how such deals end.
Dealing with us will be the government's downfall even if they end every day stronger than the last. There was some quote about liberty and thunderous applause.
Seems villainous to me and Father can't help it if some are too short sighted to see which way the worm is turning. Its less to convince anyone and more to make ourselves feel better.
[X] "Rationalize" It (Briefly)
Its... it seems right? Not to push a particular goal but it seems like what I'd actually expect to happen. It doesn't have to be true.
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- Location
- Fall, or somewhere close to it
[X] "Rationalize" It (Briefly)
Chronobreak
Chara Appreciator
- Location
- Chicago
- Pronouns
- He/Him
This is pretty clear a set of binary, or I guess, tertiary options we have here.
Double Down is father committing himself to the path of a Villain, just like his fellow Kings. Admitting to your faults implies you feel shame over them, and Double D certainly doesn't do that. I want you to think, for just a second, what boasting about baking kids into a cake actually means. It means you are a complete and utter psychopath. This is serious. Our actions are serious. 362 all but told us that her operatives died. They did not get injured. They did not get booboos, and get to go back to their parents. They, are, dead.
Denial is just refusing to interact with the situation entirely, and blowing this opportunity for development. I won't speak on it further.
Disown It, as I said, is weak rhetorically. It is like pulling teeth. Father absolutely hates it. But you know what they say, medicine is bitter.
Killing kids is wrong. It is abhorrent. It is an atrocity. As a cranky old adult, I agree that kids, in many cases, should listen to their elders. Should behave. Should have fun in a way that is considerate of others. But this isn't about that. This isn't really about that at all, is it? This is about Father, looking at his most abominable act, some would say, the most abominable act imaginable, and deciding what he is going to do about it.
There's an important part of the Disown It option that I think we might have to examine further.
Interesting. Father wants his work to be recognized. Father wants his work to be appreciated. Now let us look at the last part of it's competing option.
Father believes he has done nothing wrong. That his hatred is justified.
...
Vulnerability, contrasted by Determination.
Now there is an elephant in the room. A popular write-in plan. Rationalize It (Briefly).
It's a very appealing argument. It has good points, it makes sense, I can agree with most of it. There's one problem though. Two, actually.
One, it's nonsense. This is not why Father does what he does. He, is, lying. Father did what he did because of what he says in the Double Down option, he does what he does because of what 362 said. He is a child, stubbornly refusing to grow as a person, adapt, and put others before himself. He is everything that is wrong with the KND, personified.
Two, it refuses to look into the eye what we did. This is no joke, and this is no laughing matter. We are rationalizing...making a cannibal cake, as Hank put it in a most morbid and disgusting way. That is the depth of Fathers hatred. That is how far he was willing to go to satisfy it.
It is not something I would enjoy seeing him do again.
Double Down is father committing himself to the path of a Villain, just like his fellow Kings. Admitting to your faults implies you feel shame over them, and Double D certainly doesn't do that. I want you to think, for just a second, what boasting about baking kids into a cake actually means. It means you are a complete and utter psychopath. This is serious. Our actions are serious. 362 all but told us that her operatives died. They did not get injured. They did not get booboos, and get to go back to their parents. They, are, dead.
Denial is just refusing to interact with the situation entirely, and blowing this opportunity for development. I won't speak on it further.
Disown It, as I said, is weak rhetorically. It is like pulling teeth. Father absolutely hates it. But you know what they say, medicine is bitter.
Killing kids is wrong. It is abhorrent. It is an atrocity. As a cranky old adult, I agree that kids, in many cases, should listen to their elders. Should behave. Should have fun in a way that is considerate of others. But this isn't about that. This isn't really about that at all, is it? This is about Father, looking at his most abominable act, some would say, the most abominable act imaginable, and deciding what he is going to do about it.
There's an important part of the Disown It option that I think we might have to examine further.
Interesting. Father wants his work to be recognized. Father wants his work to be appreciated. Now let us look at the last part of it's competing option.
Father believes he has done nothing wrong. That his hatred is justified.
...
Vulnerability, contrasted by Determination.
Now there is an elephant in the room. A popular write-in plan. Rationalize It (Briefly).
It's a very appealing argument. It has good points, it makes sense, I can agree with most of it. There's one problem though. Two, actually.
One, it's nonsense. This is not why Father does what he does. He, is, lying. Father did what he did because of what he says in the Double Down option, he does what he does because of what 362 said. He is a child, stubbornly refusing to grow as a person, adapt, and put others before himself. He is everything that is wrong with the KND, personified.
Two, it refuses to look into the eye what we did. This is no joke, and this is no laughing matter. We are rationalizing...making a cannibal cake, as Hank put it in a most morbid and disgusting way. That is the depth of Fathers hatred. That is how far he was willing to go to satisfy it.
It is not something I would enjoy seeing him do again.
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[X] I DON'T KNOW
No elaboration, the simplicity is beatiful.
No elaboration, the simplicity is beatiful.
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KidFromPallet
Pokemon Fan
- Location
- Pallet Town
I'm fairly certain that 'everyone likes to see their hard work recognized' is in reference to Hank, who Father would be trying to distract by talking about AdultCo and AdultCo accessories.
- Location
- USA
Actually, did Father not at one point destroy all the ice cream in Texas specifically? Would love to see Hank react to that.
No, the ice cream cake satellite was destroyed before it could fire.
BlueWerewolf25
The Dreamer
- Location
- Wouldn't You Like To Know?
- Pronouns
- He/His/Him
[X] I DON'T KNOW
Heh. Classic.
Heh. Classic.
ThatGuyWithIdeas
Treize died for our sins
- Location
- Romania
[X] "Rationalize" It (Briefly)
Asmodemus
Subversive Element
Disown it is just denial combined with deflection in my reading of the text.
An admittance that yes, it happened, a lying promise it won't happen again, then deflection, an advertisement for his products. A dishonest answer, just with a touch more truth to it rather than a complete lie.
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[X] I DON'T KNOW
To be honest this seems as the most honest response as it will give Father more time to ponder his new motivations and perspectives in a new Post-KND world
To be honest this seems as the most honest response as it will give Father more time to ponder his new motivations and perspectives in a new Post-KND world
As much as I love Stolas's "I don't know" answer. I think it is best reserved to those we are very close with, as it also shows weakness. Hank barely qualifies for that because he is a genuine nice guy.
It also ignores the villains who are watching. I do not want to show any openings when we are live on TV with most of the viewers are a pack of hyenas looking hungrily at us.
It also ignores the villains who are watching. I do not want to show any openings when we are live on TV with most of the viewers are a pack of hyenas looking hungrily at us.
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We've killed our own father just after he conquered the world and just finished fighting off an alien invasion the entire government couldn't handle.
We can afford to look a bit weak, or we could say "I don't know" and then melt Moltar to show power and take over the moonbase.
[X] DOUBLE DOWN
KnownParadox
Not a sphere
- Location
- Canada
[X] DOUBLE DOWN
- Pronouns
- He/They
[X] "Rationalize" It (Briefly)
- Location
- At my computer
[X] "Rationalize" It (Briefly)
[X] DOUBLE DOWN
Sure the Government *might* drop their contract with us but I'll hazard a guess that they'll keep it. That they'll desperately try to spin things. To keep their beloved Patriarch because they need Father's power and support.
And I would love to see that. To see Father be the Necessary Evil and not just an ambiguous shade of grey.
Only after Catharsis, after coming to grips with his reasons for hating children, after putting to rest the inner tension he has to do with (sooper)villain identity can Father look back and mull over how hollow his driving motives have been.
The way I see it, the risk to our working relationship with Hank might be counteracted by the opportunity we'll have with character development with someone like Hex.
Sure the Government *might* drop their contract with us but I'll hazard a guess that they'll keep it. That they'll desperately try to spin things. To keep their beloved Patriarch because they need Father's power and support.
And I would love to see that. To see Father be the Necessary Evil and not just an ambiguous shade of grey.
Only after Catharsis, after coming to grips with his reasons for hating children, after putting to rest the inner tension he has to do with (sooper)villain identity can Father look back and mull over how hollow his driving motives have been.
The way I see it, the risk to our working relationship with Hank might be counteracted by the opportunity we'll have with character development with someone like Hex.
Olivebirdy
mook.
[X] DOUBLE DOWN
The first step of change is honesty.
The first step of change is honesty.