If we're limited by material science, we're due for some better armor material from the industrial platform. Potential solution?
Blood, Sweat, and Tears (WH40k Design Bureau)
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If we're limited by material science, we're due for some better armor material from the industrial platform. Potential solution?
HeroCooky
Unverified Monstergirl
Okay, so "portents and omens" instead of "they will do that, that, and that," gotcha.
HeroCooky
Unverified Monstergirl
@DaLintyGuy I would imagine that the procedure for developing this thing is doing so in a blacksite with several nuclear bombs, should things get just that tiny bit too fucky, Boom. And should things go out of hand too fast, daemonportal and possesed psykers galore, fun times for the whole military!
And a mid-battle fuck-up would be insta daemon-ship. One the Tzeentchy's would very like...
And a mid-battle fuck-up would be insta daemon-ship. One the Tzeentchy's would very like...
Not quite. Daemonships are a bit more involved to make. But there are larger problems with taking cues from a group of psykers, and Calavar does not have the Warp suppressants needed for active defense of said complement (hexa/pentagrammatic wards, psychoreactive materials, etc).
HeroCooky
Unverified Monstergirl
So, it is doable, but very dangerous right now? Or do you mean that we would only be able to boost the power with no, or lowered, defences?
Doable but unreliable and dangerous. Extra work may ameliorate these problems.
Although, you might be able to get some sort of help from the Sororitas... Hm.
HeroCooky
Unverified Monstergirl
Yeah, I was about to mention them. I mean, the SoB are very effective at resisting corruption and we also have access to a shrine-world. There should be something there.
Edit: to clarify: it chould be that ecclesiarchy cleric "whatshisface" remembers a legend of a prayer that lets a priest/group of priests consecrate a location against the corruption of the warp/deamon-fuckery in the archive "thatplacethere".
Or we could throw some money at our psykers to figure out how to ward stuff. They should have (low-level) foci, figuring out how to divert the attention of the warp should be doable in the ten years of a turn (unless I am remembering the time you gave wrong), at least the absolute basics.
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Vote is currently unanimous but it would be remiss of me to not give a twelve hour warning until the close. And after that... This will not be a short writing period I feel. :/
Got a lot of high impact butchery to run through, all over the place.
Got a lot of high impact butchery to run through, all over the place.
Ork WAAAGHs tend to be that way yes.
I'm expecting significant losses in our 3rd Naval Squadron and probably in the forces we are sending against Legcutta. Homna is effectively a sacrificial play so I'm mostly writing those armies off.
Would working with the Sisters to set up a 'how to not get your face eaten by demons' school for our psykers be a research action, or something else?
Design, but yes.
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@DaLintyGuy is there any way we could get Balagog to send it's light cruiser to help at Uniary, IE let them have all the M output from Uniary and the defenses we've built there in exchange for them also sending their light cruiser to help us against Legcutta?
Its possible, though Bagalog has their own list of Stuff to be doing as Calavar has historically been rather good at beating the Orks.
Vote officially locked, update to come... Whenever it gets done.
At least the First Patrol Squadron is in position-ish. If you squint.
I am guessing that the traditional bucket of dice that the tabletop game requires is going to come in handy?
Actually, could I get a confirmation that you have never built defenses in Calavar proper? I don't want to misrepresent such a thing.
Sir_Travelsalot
Never wakes up tired.
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Fairly sure that's the case. We have the Customs Monitors and whatever defensive emplacements are on our bloated monstrosity of a manufacturing platform.
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...I am suddenly nervous that this is relevant.
I maybe should have spoken up to ask if our homeworld has defenses in the face of a sneaky enemy when I thought of that a couple days ago, but it seemed obvious enough that I didn't bother and instead just trusted the hivemind.
So, just out of curiosity @DaLintyGuy, how are bad ends handled in this quest?
It's a collaborative story telling, so unless you go full pants-on-head you should be fine. Ish.
This is just those out of town Renegades being hired by Incleon to raid you as the least defended industrial node in the Subsector.
Fucking hell. This is why I've been wanting to build up defenses in all our holdings for some time. So that if our fleet is occupied fixed defenses can tell attackers to fuck off.
And we can't even really retaliate right now since the Chaos fucks are behind Moderate level of defenses and we need a good way of clearing mine fields. We'd probably need a hefty fleet centered around a light cruiser to have a chance at cracking the defenses.
*sigh* if we manage to keep the Audacity from being stolen or destroyed during its construction then top priority is finishing it next turn and second top priority is forting up everything. I want a defense station in Calavar plus a shit load of ground defenses and a void army dedicated to defending the shipyards.
And we can't even really retaliate right now since the Chaos fucks are behind Moderate level of defenses and we need a good way of clearing mine fields. We'd probably need a hefty fleet centered around a light cruiser to have a chance at cracking the defenses.
*sigh* if we manage to keep the Audacity from being stolen or destroyed during its construction then top priority is finishing it next turn and second top priority is forting up everything. I want a defense station in Calavar plus a shit load of ground defenses and a void army dedicated to defending the shipyards.
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Arming the Monitors is an extremely cheap way of doing so, at least.
If we have any left after this fiasco anyways.
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So I think we should build a pair of monitors based off the Spatha hull:
-[] Buckler Class Monitor (42 M)
--[] Spatha-class Hull (5M)
--[] Standard Macrocannon Battery MkII (5M)
--[] Standard Macrocannon Battery MkII (5M)
--[] Scaffold Armor (2M)
--[] Bubble-type Rapid Shield (6M)
--[] Corona-Pattern PD Array (2M, Replaces Warp drive)
--[] Repair Deck (2M)
--[] Militarized Engine (3M)
--[] Groupsight Combat Bridge (4M)
--[] T-100 Auspex (2M)
--[] Redoubt Life Support (3M)
--[] Bastion Housing (3M)
2 of these would be only 84 M and probably be more dangerous than 6 refitted monitors due to better speed and concentrated firepower. Note that I downgraded the sensors to save cost since they don't need long-range sensors due to having short-ranged weapons. They mount Corona PD because we don't typically have much fighter support in our defenses.
Also, using these would let us protect our shipyard and the planet, unlike a stationary platform.
On the topic of research, it occurred to me that we should not bother continuing to research thermo-cavitation shell manufacturing, for the following reasons:
1. Building the shells without Mechanicus involvement will need 5M. That is too expensive to be justifiable. I mean, the new torpedoes cost only 3 M each, yet we barely built any new torpedoes despite their relatively low cost.
2. The whole point was we were hoping to use the shells more often, but the 5M cost makes that impracticable.
As such, we should instead research explosive shells, since they should provide a damage boost without being too expensive for a mass rollout.
Still, next turn we will need to dedicate as much as possible to shipbuilding. Even if there are requests to provide M in exchange for research slots, we should not take them, because right now we need M more than we need research slots
-[] Buckler Class Monitor (42 M)
--[] Spatha-class Hull (5M)
--[] Standard Macrocannon Battery MkII (5M)
--[] Standard Macrocannon Battery MkII (5M)
--[] Scaffold Armor (2M)
--[] Bubble-type Rapid Shield (6M)
--[] Corona-Pattern PD Array (2M, Replaces Warp drive)
--[] Repair Deck (2M)
--[] Militarized Engine (3M)
--[] Groupsight Combat Bridge (4M)
--[] T-100 Auspex (2M)
--[] Redoubt Life Support (3M)
--[] Bastion Housing (3M)
2 of these would be only 84 M and probably be more dangerous than 6 refitted monitors due to better speed and concentrated firepower. Note that I downgraded the sensors to save cost since they don't need long-range sensors due to having short-ranged weapons. They mount Corona PD because we don't typically have much fighter support in our defenses.
Also, using these would let us protect our shipyard and the planet, unlike a stationary platform.
On the topic of research, it occurred to me that we should not bother continuing to research thermo-cavitation shell manufacturing, for the following reasons:
1. Building the shells without Mechanicus involvement will need 5M. That is too expensive to be justifiable. I mean, the new torpedoes cost only 3 M each, yet we barely built any new torpedoes despite their relatively low cost.
2. The whole point was we were hoping to use the shells more often, but the 5M cost makes that impracticable.
As such, we should instead research explosive shells, since they should provide a damage boost without being too expensive for a mass rollout.
Still, next turn we will need to dedicate as much as possible to shipbuilding. Even if there are requests to provide M in exchange for research slots, we should not take them, because right now we need M more than we need research slots