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The revolt happened and then she launched the attack on Breach.
Battle Action Harem Highschool Side Character Quest (No SV, you are the Waifu)
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Romka
Master of Stealth
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- In a barrel
According to WoG, Valk cores are golf to tennis ball sized.
I was relying on chapter five here:
But your WoG is newer than that. I guess I have to reread the entire thread again :D
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Icipall
Don't worry, we can fanfix that!
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- Cold snow fields of Finland
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Under the Open Sky (CWMGQ Spinoff)
After having her mind put back together Magical Girl Summit tries to discover what she wants to be. This was interrupted when Earth was attacked by the forces of darkness. She answers the call and joins an interdimensional war. A war that appears to doom the forces of Earth no matter which side...
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A spin-off of crystalwatcher's magical girl quest. You shouldn't need to read that to understand Under the Open Sky but it would help.
- Location
- Ekaterinburg, Russia
It's actually linked on the first page. Also, links in posts above.
The convenient summary: Anna reimagined as an expy of herself in another setting.
LostDeviljho
Flame Dragon Princess
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- The glorious Pacific Northwest
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Yo, somebody brought up comparisons to the CMGQ sorta-crossover? Now I need to go through the last few pages to read the convo...
As a general statement where crossover VS debates are concerned, BAHHSCQ generally roflstomps CWMGQ, right up until it runs into a brick wall conceptual effect, and those aren't super common.
Okay...
- You're overestimating how esoteric Summit can get by a fair amount.
- Valks absolutely 100% definitely couldn't improve magic.
- I think we have different definitions of "OCP", given that Coroner breaks the power curve over her knee like Bane breaks Batman.
^ This, basically. The fastest individual in the LDC tops out at supersonic, and Coroner makes him look like he's standing still whilst also massively outgunning everyone but the extreme top percentile.
RMA? Not familiar with that acronym.
I... That subject has come up frequently, but at no point do I recall myself or Crys saying the words you just said.
As a general statement where crossover VS debates are concerned, BAHHSCQ generally roflstomps CWMGQ, right up until it runs into a brick wall conceptual effect, and those aren't super common.
Avalanche
Atypical Netizen
- Location
- Australia
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Batman won in the end though. :^)
Alphaleph
The Firstiest of First
That's the brick wall conceptual effect.
or simply put in a single image:
The upper ends of CWMGQ can crush Anna if they break out their big guns. Anna would probably die if they popped a planet killer with her in the general vicinity for example. Conceptual effects like Sixth Heaven's The Blood And The Dirt which renders everyone on the battlefield, aside from her, unable to fly would also really mess with Anna. It is just all the non-OP characters would die like the trash they are and Anna would make an amazing army muncher.
Moreover would Anna even count as being on the battlefield since she would be sniping from 600 km away ? And even if it work she can still teleport.
Being unable to fly would reduce some options for Anna, yeah. But it won't stop her from hitscan sniping everyone who tries to close on her or simply teleporting a couple of kilometers into the earth and firing from down there.
Remember, she can teleport into freaking lava and treat it the same as air. Further, its not like the heat would hurt her. She was fine inside a fusion chamber with temps in the millions of Kelvin. She could literally sit inside a volcano and beamspam at everyone around it in a 600+ kilometer radius.
LostDeviljho
Flame Dragon Princess
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- The glorious Pacific Northwest
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I was thinking more along the lines of "you literally cannot hurt me unless XYZ", where the ValCore character can't fulfill the relevant clause because they Aren't Magic.
It would be interesting since Anna would radically alter how everyone approaches things. There are heavyweights who could oppose her to varying degrees, from merely keeping her from doing much to actually crushing her though they would need to prevent her from retreating for the latter, but the Unified Light has their own heavyweights to keep those busy and absent them Anna could systematically annihilate any army the Unified Darkness fields.
So chances are it would conclude the Eternal War one way or the other.
So chances are it would conclude the Eternal War one way or the other.
There's effects that can protect/bypass that. Rarely all in one person or group, but the various factions are large and varied enough they'll eventually find a winning combo.
Speaking as a guy with a behind the scenes look, it would not, but it would definitely tip the balance of power strongly.
Jonen C
F.M.D.G.
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- Lincopense, Ostrogothia, Suecia
Revolution in Military Affairs.
Basically transition from Napoleonic Line and Square to Indirect fire artillery, or from wood and canvas Biplanes to metal hull monoplanes to jets. Or the introduction of drones and satellite recon, mechanization, precision guided munitions and so on.
Most of the capabilities Coroner brings to the table either already exist in some limited form, or have been conceptualized.
She wouldn't be a true OCP, because the goddesses exist, but she'd functionally be the equivalent of replacing commodore Perry's black ships with the USS Enterprise (CVN 65) + Escorts, so possibly a local OCP to whatever commanders end up in opposition, but on the whole the balance of the war is not overthrown completely.
Meanwhile Summit would hardly be noticed by local commanders, but has the potential to be an OCP for both the Antagonists and potentially the UN, by the introduction of magic and possibly contact with the UL/UD.
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LostDeviljho
Flame Dragon Princess
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Coroner is an absolute woodchipper, but I think even she would take a while to work through armies with troop counts that outnumber the population of the earth.
Jonen C
F.M.D.G.
- Location
- Lincopense, Ostrogothia, Suecia
Depends.
How tightly are they grouped (ie how many shots will she have to fire) and how many humans are among them (collateral damage avoidance, more will decrese yield per shot and thus number of shots)?
Once youre playing in the megaton yields, numbers (other than megatons) don't matter, terrain coverage and dispersion matters more. Massive formations of millions of troops, in tight formations, is just sacrificial fodder for the wages of war with instant-sunlight-inna-can.
If those said armies are properly dispersed for a game of thermonuclear warfare, it takes longer to kill them, but they are also further apart and less able to render mutual support, so Anna may just drop in and eat them to convert to more munitions, with which to reduce any position sufficiently defended to not be a free meal.
There's plenty of stuff in the UD arsenal Coroner can't do anything about, but the stuff she can do likewise can't impede her in any meaningful manner.
(Really the UDs best bet is probably convincing her they don't want to fight her and are not at all Antagonists, the best case outcome of which (for the UD) might see Coroner acting to enforce peace (or at least ceasefires) wherever she goes.)
The worst vsse scenario for the UD is Coroner settles somewhere and starts churning out armaments for the UL.
Avalanche
Atypical Netizen
- Location
- Australia
I thought UL had magitech production already? That was behind their WWIII or something?
Jonen C
F.M.D.G.
- Location
- Lincopense, Ostrogothia, Suecia
Sure.
Anna plus Durgas factory doesn't make magic though. Not that you'd know unless you have sensors looking for it.
Basically, factory mode Coroner is
0. Happy Anna making stuff.
1. Constantly improving and optimizing.
2. Outputs lots of stuff.
3. Outputs products that equal or outperform magic equivalents (may require additional work to integrate magic in a way that doesn't negatively affectperformance of either).
4. Is absolutely safeguarded against sabotage, espionage or assault by anything short of a minor apocalypse.
5. Can terraform a broken world. (Except possibly if broken by magic.)
6. Can relocate if needed.
7. can copy and improve anything non magic brought in for analysis.
8. Single operator plus emotional support cohabitants.
9. Maximum Pillow Fort.
10. Refugees Welcome.
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LostDeviljho
Flame Dragon Princess
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Er... sorta. Magic-in-general was behind Earth's WWIII, and Earth does have "magitech" production (blessed napalm, enchanted tanks, etc.), but Earth isn't the UL. They're not even a significant chunk of the UL.
They definitely do have magitech, but its just 2010's military tech with magic features added (plus those Bolo tanks and power armor I guess).
Anna's 2070 UN tech base would supercharge UL forces even more than they already are though.
Have to agree with that. Like that Hell Dome that Judgment Core wiped out in Under an Open sky, the thing has magical defenses that Anna can't subvert at all. Doesn't matter how many biggatons she has if the thing can't be conceptually hurt by mundane means.
What Anna is good at is killing hordes of mooks, mid-tiers and giant monsters that rely on mundane defenses and stupid amounts of HP+regen to stay alive.
With her focusing on mulching those, it frees up UL forces in theater to focus on threats she can't meaningfully harm.
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The primary reason Earth, and thus by extension the UL, isn't curbstomping everyone with their higher tech is logistics. Human technology is devastating on the battlefield but it can only be produced so fast and has transportation limits on top of that.
As an example humanity has a seriously limited supply of nuclear weapons and fissionable material as post-WWIII they attempted to denuclearize. Anna can turn energy directly into weapons grade uranium/plutonium. With her 100% efficiency conversion and 20TW of reactor Anna could reliably produce a kilogram of U-235 every 75 minutes. Or a kilogram of any matter for that matter. If she went matter -> energy -> matter for converting dirt into other valuable materials (like U-235) well then she is only limited by her conversion speed.