Attempting to Fulfill the Plan MNKh Edition

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What exactly is going on with the "[]Force a Euro Vote" option? Is there a serious risk that the currency integration will outright fail without our intervention? I want the Euro very much but unless it desperately needs us to save it here, let's not rush it. We already badgered Seymonov to accelerate it once, doing it a second time and obviously exploiting a crisis seems like bad optics. I'd rather use the favor for immigration laws, or even expanding education if we're worried about crashing the labor supply.

Re: Space, I believe in starting Inflatable Sections before the main space station program. Unless we get real lucky with the budget cap boost, it'll be a while before we have 30 RpT (25 for the main program plus 5 for inflatable) to spare. And because we would be starting the space station program without any validation of the inflatable concept, all our first station would be bulky rigid-body things because our engineers rightly won't stand idle waiting for it to be done. If we start Inflatable Sections at least a few turns before, the general concept of "can you blow up a balloon with oxygenated air in space and live in it for a while" will be proven and our engineers will be able to design with that in mind.
 
Major financial earthquakes are something that require a great deal of political will to keep going. The tendency will always be to throw the euro into delay hell, if left to progress on its own.

I believe we need to treat movement towards the euro like any other kind of megaproject - the results of finally having it will certainly be on that level.
 
What exactly is going on with the "[]Force a Euro Vote" option? Is there a serious risk that the currency integration will outright fail without our intervention? I want the Euro very much but unless it desperately needs us to save it here, let's not rush it. We already badgered Seymonov to accelerate it once, doing it a second time and obviously exploiting a crisis seems like bad optics. I'd rather use the favor for immigration laws, or even expanding education if we're worried about crashing the labor supply.
We did favor trading with Romanov, not Semyonov. In terms of risk of currency integration failing, I already made a post on that a bit ago, basically its main proponents are in a very shaky political position, the GS has lost Algeria and made a mess out of Austria and the enterprises most vocally backing it were discredited a while ago. It might not die, but I think there is a good chance it is much delayed. Romanov doesn't seem to have much interested in it certainly, and if he becomes GS its biggest proponent (Semyonov) will be replaced by someone mostly indifferent to it. Acting now means we things moving along if we do well, if we establish the ECU and new comissions and bloc wide financial institutions the issue of the Euro will gain a lot more momentum.
 
We did favor trading with Romanov, not Semyonov. In terms of risk of currency integration failing, I already made a post on that a bit ago, basically its main proponents are in a very shaky political position, the GS has lost Algeria and made a mess out of Austria and the enterprises most vocally backing it were discredited a while ago. It might not die, but I think there is a good chance it is much delayed. Romanov doesn't seem to have much interested in it certainly, and if he becomes GS its biggest proponent (Semyonov) will be replaced by someone mostly indifferent to it. Acting now means we things moving along if we do well, if we establish the ECU and new comissions and bloc wide financial institutions the issue of the Euro will gain a lot more momentum.
Thanks for the info, and sorry for the mistake on who helped us last time. I'm inclined to vote for Transportation Goes BRR now. If Seymonov is removed, how bad is it for us? I don't want a major political shakeup throwing this plan into chaos with how much we have to do. Has he lost Algeria though? True they're on the back foot (despite their good rolls, I guess France still has a large modifier despite their nat 1), but the fight is very much still raging.

Speaking of Algeria, I see France has been exposed for committing massacres. Even that diplo nat 100 last turn couldn't save them forever huh? Their domestic rolls this turn could be decisive, with how the anti-conscription protests are forming.
 
Thanks for the info, and sorry for the mistake on who helped us last time. I'm inclined to vote for Transportation Goes BRR now. If Seymonov is removed, how bad is it for us? I don't want a major political shakeup throwing this plan into chaos with how much we have to do. Has he lost Algeria though? True they're on the back foot (despite their good rolls, I guess France still has a large modifier despite their nat 1), but the fight is very much still raging.
If it was not for that nat 1 at the start of the war, Algeria would have fallen in the first year, or at least effectively fallen in the first year. As France basically got to blitz it before any defense efforts could be organized outside effectively militias. The next turn was mostly France not being able to conclusively knock out the rest of the mainline/non-guerrilla resistance. Algeria is almost certain to fall the next turn in the sense of organized resistance that is, not a bunch of more countryside-based groups fighting an insurgency rather than a conventional war. To some of your leadership, this of course looks like a loss rather than things progressing as expected especially given you have voices that are much more interventionist compared to the semi hands-off mass subsidization of military equipment.
 
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The unexpected downside of the imperial powers learning their lesson for 2 decades after the UK lit itself on fire. The first big guerilla vs standing army insurgency of the cold war and it's gonna have MANPADS and atgms for days
 
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I'm sure the weapons flooding in now will still be moving around for the next 50 years or so too.

[X] Plan Transportation Goes BRR
[X] Plan Educated Redshirts

Mostly because I think airports are starting to get dangerously overdue in the age of Jetliners.
 
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I slightly favor the dice allocations of Redshirt and better immigration policy is good, but I REALLY do not want to jeopardize the Euro. I can accept it being delayed if Seymonov leaves, but how likely is it the plan will outright be killed by his replacement?
 
[X] Plan Redshirt
[X] Plan Educated Redshirts

Personally i am for immigration as the Euro while nobodies darling anymore is already implemented broadly and i see no one wishing to repeal it so further down the line someone people will keep coming that wants to push it. This stand in contrast to immigration where we are in a once in a lifetime labour shortage that will allow us to formalise a bunch of new ways of immigration that can be expanded later.
 
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It really isn't. Everyone, let's not forget that one of the goals of this plan is to create a wealthy domestic consumer base that can provide internal demand to our industry. Unsurprisingly, the best way to create said base is to actually pay our workers a lot - so, what is the point in trying to push through an immigration reform explicitly aimed at dropping the labor prices? That's just shooting ourselves in the foot.

Moreover, having to actually pay their workers will pressure the management into modernizing the production lines on its own, without us having to force it from above. We've already committed to one strategy, changing course now would be really counterproductive.

All good points. But on the other hand, it sounds like a general reform to the immigration system to attract highly educated folks, and by altering the system to attract people who can be picky, it will give people at the bottom end of the scale - our people and guest workers - a better situation due to grinding down the number of ways that low skilled immigration can be used to screw over domestic low skilled folks.

Still, between what you're saying and the evident weakness of the Euro drive, maybe immigration reform isn't the most important priority right now...

The issue with the Euro is that well, its biggest backer (Kosygin) retired, and it seem its main SoE proponents got their political influence decimated during the Voz-Klim transition (through the anti-corruption campaigns and economic crisis I suspect) as you can see mentioned in the previous Euro favor:

[]Accelerate Euro Adoption: Current tepid questions on the Euro are due to the resignation of Kosygin and some agitation for local currency. The enterprises that have massively pushed for further trade integration have to an extent been discredited but the cause itself is still justified. Ensuring that the previously made plan for a universal currency across European CMEA is adopted in full and not politically fought can provide significant long-term dividends. Forcing the vote before 1975 and in what is likely to be an economic upturn will only further improve the odds of universal passage. (Costs a Favor from Romanov)

So right now, we have an uninterested Romanov (it cost a favor from him to make sure he is onboard with the vote), a Semyonov in a very shaky political position (if it takes a favor from him, the Euro's biggest proponent, to force a vote, it means he must be wary of spending his political capital in pushing for it) and well, us. If we aren't proactive here, I expect things to move very slowly in terms of the Euro. Especially if Semyonov loses his position in the next couple of years. So I guess the rationale of pushing for a vote now is ensuring the question of the Euro isn't thrown into the backburner.

The option as it is written seems relatively reasonable, certainly ensuring some fiscal responsibility in say, Yugoslavia would probably help us avoid some issues down the line, though at the cost of some economic growth, and having a version of the ECU should help with interbloc trade and to develop CMEA's financial insititutions. The main issue, of course, is if it fails. If it does, Semyonov spent a lot of political capital to look bad at a time his position is already shaky. We would probably lose some face and hurt our relationship with his faction as well. If it works, we please some enterprises, give ourselves and Semyonov a W and get significant progress on the question of the Euro.

On the other hand, Semyonov is perhaps the most pro-Euro politician in power right now. So if we need to use a favour to encourage him to push it through... Why is Semyonov so shy? Does he feel some economies are not ready for it, does he feel that he lacks the political capital, is he just worried that if it goes wrong, it will bring down his already weak secretaryship?

I super feel that Blackstar is not telling us important information. (I know, I know, situation normal in this quest, but this particular information dearth is especially unsettling.)

I am also torn. The events in Austria might make our allies keen to join the Euro and make it work, basically with the idea that anything that goes wrong in one country post Euro will be bailed out by the rest. On the other hand, maybe our allies will be less keen to join because they will fear that this project has become a way of taking their money to save Austria. Also, we were also in fairly hot water during Klim's early years, will our keenness for the Euro be seen as us trying to get our allies to subsidize us?

And just in general, a rushed adoption of the Euro will leave lots of time bombs to explode later. Bringing the entire European CMEA (I think that's the target, and our Asian and African allies will not be brought in) into one currency system will require alot of work to harmonize the various economies, much as the OTL Euro required years of harsh budgetary discipline and banking reforms from each member before joining. Because instead of each country being able to take a fiscal and monetary approach that suited their own situations, they needed to wedge themselves into a one-size-fits-all approach. And in 2008, we all found that the efforts to harmonize Europe's economies failed, and there were serious financial crises in Greece, Ireland and Spain (and almost France and Italy). A rushed implementation of TTL's Euro could lead to worse problems.

But TTL's Euro also includes a bunch of very important financial reforms, like ditching the gold straight jacket!

This is high risk, high reward stuff.

One thing that caught my eye this turn was this tidbit... 1972 is awfully close, and with it comes new elections. There is basically zero chance Humphrey gets re-elected, the man is nowhere near as competent as Johnson and has to deal with all the baggage of the New Deal and Civil Rights movement that is about to slam the Dems right in the face (the US has faced severe rioting this past turn). It is very likely that in 1973, the President of the United States might be someone a lot more protectionist and hostile to our interest, so I think there is a very strong case to be made on starting this project right now. Same with the []Scientific Exchange Programs. I will see if I can make a plan with it soon if I have some time.

I've gotta say, it's wild that the Democrats have been able to maintain a monopoly on the Presidency until now. FDR won in 1933 as OTL right? So if Humphry loses the next election, that means we'll get a Republican in 1973 - 40 years of Democrat monopoly! The corruption is gonna be staggering, just like Republican during their monopoly on power in the decades after the Civil War led to corruption.

That said, I notice that no plan so far has actually put any dice into the Saratov Machine Building Plant - did the discord group decide against it or something?

Seems to me that this should be a priority. We want to get onto this while the Humphrey regime isn't fighting for its political life...

It also arguably helps in that it means the Soviets might not solve all disagreements with their puppet states via tightening the leash and cracking the whip. At least not nearly openly as they did OTL, something which might help in keeping some what better relations between the various areas and some more ability to try out new ideas.

Right, making people feel their countries are slaves does not advance our geostrategic aims at all.

Admittedly a lot of these ideas are unlikely to go anywhere fast, though there is one bulk launch system that could be made to work in principle even in the 70s. Which would be the spacegun concept. One of the most interesting variants of that idea was to use a light gas gun suspended in the ocean, so you could afford to have a super long and straight barrel, thus allowing for larger objects and higher speeds. Obviously the high acceleration and velocity would create limitations on what one could send, but light gas guns are real and should definitely be capable of hitting very high speeds indeed, 7+ km/s is certainly in reach.

I'm not sure there are many other some what realistic ideas that could be used any time soon. But I'd have to admit I would have some interest in the chance of developing a spacegun. That certainly could have prospects on say making resupply for space stations a lot cheaper, or supply an early space industry more affordably perhaps.

I also kind of disagree with your premise it would just be cheaper to do it all in space. Considering the complexities of a lot of our technologies a link between earth bound and space industry for a long time to come is likely. So eventually there would be a need to greatly depress launch costs to help get through that bottleneck when setting up a full space industry. Else all your costs will become ridiculously high for that goal.

A spacegun would be fairly comparable to a rocket sled I think. And all of these bulk launch options are also big, big pieces of infrastructure that require us to be launching thousands of tonnes into orbit every year to be worthwhile.

Also, all of the bulk launch facilities have rather limited payload bays, meaning they work best for bulk exports of raw materials and the like. Stuff that is better off coming from the moon. And they aren't particularly scalable - they're kind of like cutting edge chip fabs - if you aren't using more than 90% of total capacity, you are in big trouble. And like all large construction projects, they'll take a long time to build, cost a freaking bomb and will suffer degradation, meaning we need to use these things enough that we can pay off the R&D effort, the building costs and the regular maintenance costs.

Rockets by contrast are very scalable. And can be much cheaper if you build bigger rockets and you crack reuseability. And since bigger rockets can carry wider payloads, they are able to carry alot more kinds of cargo too. There is a limit to the number of rocket launches you can do per year because every rocket going up is punching a hole through atmospheric layers that is causing increased atmospheric mixing and things like ozone layer degredation result. But we won't have enough viable launch sites in the Soviet Union to be able to cause even a tiny fraction more damage than we are already doing with our mad aircon roll-out. So even if we stuck with the RLA-3 as our biggest vehicle for the rest of time, we could still launch many hundreds of tonnes into orbit without causing major issues. If we revived the RLA-5, we could maybe hit the low thousands in payload tonnes to orbit. If we went with a clean-sheat super heavy of Sea Dragonish proportions, we could get high thousands of tonnes into orbit. I really struggle to see us ever needing so much launch capacity that something bigger than that like a launch loop or a rocket sled became economical. Especially because most of the mass needed in orbit is for things like structural steel, water and oxygen. i.e. stuff that can be sourced in bulk from the moon, allowing Earth to focus on exporting the high value stuff, like food, people, electronics and so on...

While that is true, it is conceivable the nuclear program could take 10-15 years to complete. In which case one would be looking at a potential missed opportunity cost, where one could have used the much larger Mars Lander and recovery system development to help aid in developing a better and more reliable manned Lunar lander. It would after all require developing a far more sophisticated lander and landing system capability, together with being bigger then any previous system, thus helping on getting more scale experience.

Of course this isn't necessary either, but it is something to keep mind.

On the science side... we've never actually managed to get a Mars return sample ourselves sadly, maybe next decade. And if one wanted to maintain some level of higher space enthusiasm, a Mars sample return would definitely get you a bit on the PR side. And thus potentially help contribute to some more budget space.

Well understandable, though an argument could be made that having an early station design to test out requirements for a later larger inflatable one could make sense as well. It depends a bit on how much momentum one wants to maintain in the manned part of the space program I guess. Though admittedly the cost for the station is pretty high...

A Mars Sample Return with chemical power could return a few grams of dust. A Mars Sample Return with nuclear engines could return kilos of material, including whole rocks, maybe even some drill cores. To me that seems worth waiting for the nuclear engines, even if it took as long as you think to develop (I would be surprised if we didn't have a viable nuclear engine by 1980, which is only 9 years away).

As you say, maybe there are political reasons to press ahead with a Mars Sample Return now. It is a mission that will feature the RLA-3 in a starring role. And even a few grams of Mars WILL be infinitely more data than we have right now...

I could be convinced.

But so far, people are paring the Mars Sample Return with the Mercury Probes. IMO the inflatable experiments are the high priority new option. We've been badly neglecting our manned program, especially in the area of providing our cosmonauts with simple working volume. A VA capsule with an inflatable trunk would ENORMOUSLY increase what our Cosmonauts could do in orbit, since we could give them a low-mass shirt-sleeve environment with actual room to move in. On one wall (the hard wall with the hatch to the capsule) you could have drawers with experiments, the other walls are an inflated hemisphere of flexible composite. The increased science capability? Enormous. Increasing the prestige of Intercosmos among our allies, giving our cosmonaut corps the chance to build up experience that will help our station design. And our cosmonaut corps really do need more useful things to do. Picking either Mars or Mercury will be enough to keep space money going into better electronics, and besides which, the demand for computers means we have a healthy civilian demand for advanced electronics, this isn't like when our moon program died and we had to cut everything else to make sure our high end electronics industries didn't crash.

Fucking with salary raise schedules to try and get something as close to a de facto wage freeze as we can get without officially calling a legal wage freeze (again).

"Reducing same-job cost increase maximums can allow current growth in labor costs to be slowed and improve the dynamism of labor by encouraging varied employment" translates roughly to "reducing possible raises will keep costs down and ensure only the most desperate workers (who will take any shit we give them out of necessity) stay in low wage jobs"

I thought I smelled something bad about it...

At least we won't have Klimenko for much longer...

Regards,

fasquardon
 
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[X] Plan Transportation Goes BRR
I like this plan the most, though would prefer focus to go to Atommash, that is almost twice as expensive as transport.
 
A Mars Sample Return with chemical power could return a few grams of dust. A Mars Sample Return with nuclear engines could return kilos of material, including whole rocks, maybe even some drill cores. To me that seems worth waiting for the nuclear engines, even if it took as long as you think to develop (I would be surprised if we didn't have a viable nuclear engine by 1980, which is only 9 years away).
I think this point is resolved the easiest by quoting NASA's 80s proposals on the matter to you.

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In the mid-1980's, JPL mission planners noted that MSR had been "pushed by budgetary and other pressures into the '90s," and that the round trip would "impose large propulsion requirements." They presented a notional mass budget for a concept that would launch a 9.5-metric-ton payload from Earth, including a Mars orbiter for Earth return, and a lander having a 400-kg rover and a "Mars return vehicle" that would mass over 2 metric tons. A 20-kg sample canister would arrive at Earth containing 5 kg of samples including scientific-quality cores drilled from every type of Mars terrain.

In the late 1980s, multiple NASA centers contributed to a proposed Mars Rover Sample Return mission (MRSR). As described by JPL authors, one option for MRSR relied on a single launch of a 12-ton package including a Mars orbiter and Earth return vehicle, a 700-kg rover, and a 2.7-ton Mars ascent vehicle (MAV) which would use pump-fed liquid propulsion for a significant mass saving. A 20-kg sample package on the MAV was to contain 5 kg of Mars soil. A Johnson Space Center author subsequently referred to a launch from Earth in 1998 with a MAV mass in the range 1400 to 1500 kg including a pump-fed first stage and a pressure-fed second stage.

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So with pure chemical we can get several kg of material back and NASA did not have as good a launcher as the RLA-3 available for this. So even assuming the NASA plan was a bit optimistic, there is quite a bit of throw weight margin left to work with. But I think it's not unreasonable to think an RLA-3 mission might be able to even get 10+ kg of Mars materials back.

While a nuclear engine would of course greatly further enhance what you could achieve, it would thus not be about getting in to the kg range and possibly more about maybe even getting in to the ton range.

A several ton ascent vehicle is obviously a lot closer to mass of what a Lunar manned mission would need then anything the Soviets have done so far as well. Which was one of the reasons I thought it might help for a manned Lunar mission in the future.

Of course there are number of interesting options, so one has to pick and choose a bit what one wants to focus on, but I think the Mars sample recovery certainly has its pros though.
But so far, people are paring the Mars Sample Return with the Mercury Probes. IMO the inflatable experiments are the high priority new option.
I agree that inflatable is a pretty important item if one wants to try and keep the manned systems moving forward in a useful way. It's in general a good way to lighten space station modules, especially considering that worked out quite well in the OTL.
A spacegun would be fairly comparable to a rocket sled I think. And all of these bulk launch options are also big, big pieces of infrastructure that require us to be launching thousands of tonnes into orbit every year to be worthwhile.

Also, all of the bulk launch facilities have rather limited payload bays, meaning they work best for bulk exports of raw materials and the like. Stuff that is better off coming from the moon. And they aren't particularly scalable - they're kind of like cutting edge chip fabs - if you aren't using more than 90% of total capacity, you are in big trouble. And like all large construction projects, they'll take a long time to build, cost a freaking bomb and will suffer degradation, meaning we need to use these things enough that we can pay off the R&D effort, the building costs and the regular maintenance costs.
Spacegun are not like rocket sleds, they are very different from them.

For one building them isn't nearly as expensive as the other items and as items go they're on the more durable side... like most big guns really. Not only that, but light gas guns are a tech that actually never went away. Even though in the end they never got used for launching things to space, a smaller version has been used ever since to test the atmospheric effects on objects moving at hypersonic speeds, apparently they were the cheapest option to do so. So the tech even in our OTL has basically thus continued to see use.

Another issue is that a single Spacegun might not be quite as good at moving enormous amounts of mass to orbit as some of the other proposals, though it could move a fair bit still, but the shells tend to only be so big even for quite large guns and the fire rate of very big guns tends to get surprisingly slow. They also can't avoid you needing a small upper stage rocket for final speed increases and orbital insertion. How ever they can thus basically make a first stage obsolete for loads that can withstand a few thousand g. Which is an obvious cost saving in certain use cases.

Whether a Spacegun would ultimately be worth it I'm thus not sure, it depends on what one is doing in space. But it doesn't trade off like the other systems, the upfront costs are far more mild and more on the scale of what it costs to R&D a new rocket (ie hundreds of millions to a few billions USD), you still need a small second stage and you can only launch materials that can take high g... which amusingly enough does include modern electronics. And if one did pursue it and it didn't work out, you could use it for decades afterwards as a test system for hypersonics and beyond. A range that isn't that easy to get real data in otherwise.

You can go either way on it thus I think as the trade-offs leave one in an ambiguous spot. Its main uses would likely tend towards things like, in space refueling, resupply of space stations, small sats, metal parts, g tolerant electronics, and other things like that which can handle high-g.


PS, obviously the original vote option was for looking in to many other options as well. And obviously many of those aren't likely to happen any time soon if ever. However as worded, where they make smaller scale items to test the physics of the various better options... it sounds a bit like what happened with the spacegun idea, they made a smaller version to try it out... and then used that for ever more for cost effective high speed testing experiments. Still this is clearly just a trying things out option, one that might unlock some further options afterwards, like for instance perhaps unlocking a mass driver idea for launching from the Moon one day. Though perhaps alternate unlock routes for various things will appear in the future.
Especially because most of the mass needed in orbit is for things like structural steel, water and oxygen. i.e. stuff that can be sourced in bulk from the moon, allowing Earth to focus on exporting the high value stuff, like food, people, electronics and so on...
Getting to the point you can produce all those in space requires a lot of upfront mass launch, including needing many of those items for the duration of building up all that industry. This is why I said that unless one has a way to reduce the launch costs a lot, the bill to get all those industries setup would become excessive. So while you are of course right that it is cheaper to supply many of those things from space, that won't help at all until you find a way to actually do that at non-ridiculous budget price points.

Admittedly fully reusable rockets would probably do this, but it'll be quite awhile before those arrive yet. So if one wanted to be faster one would have to take a risk with something else. Whether one wants to do that or not depends on ones goals I guess.
 
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The logic of doing Martian sample return and Mercury probe together is that they will both need an enlarged RLA interplanetary bus, so starting them together will maybe have some kind of synergy there. Although tossing the manned program some money for inflatables would not be a terrible idea either, obviously.



Sorry I've been so checked out on this voting cycle, busy week IRL. Not sure that immigration reform is actually what we want right now, keeping labor prices up is already a struggle and the text is pretty clear that the primary goal is to suppress General Labor wages. Yeah I guess in a theoretical moral sense that the freer flow of people is a good thing, but I really don't like the economic implications of trying to consistently suppress labor prices right when we finally broke into a bracket that boosts domestic demand. Especially because General Labor is going to very rapidly become harder and harder to find good paying jobs for as our automation drives really kick in. Ultimately the increased domestic demand to start closing the loop on our domestic production is more economically important than suppressing labor prices, I think.

So I took the winning plan and just swapped out immigration reform for education reform. Salvaging Soviet dropouts back into the educational pipeline is going to be less effective in terms of labor-hour-per-ruble extracted, but I think is overall a better holistic choice for the Soviet economy to keep circulating money through Soviet teachers and schools to salvage Soviet students. Not really going to be upset if immigration wins or anything, I just think education is the better choice.

[X] Plan Educated Redshirts
-[X]6370/6395 Resources (25 Reserve), 45 Dice Rolled
-[X]Infrastructure (6/3 Dice, 760 R)
--[X]Central Asian High Capacity Roads, 2 Dice (220 R), 65%/77%
--[X]Water Distribution Systems(Stage 7/10), 1 Dice (140 R), 0%/0%
--[X]Civilian Airports(Stage 3/5), 1 Dice (100 R), 40%/55%
--[X]Development of the Volga, 1 Dice (110 R), 99%/100%
--[X]ESA, 1 Dice (190 R), 0%/0%
-[X]Heavy Industry (9/10 Dice, 2240 R)
--[X]Kursk Steel Mills(Stage 1/2), 3 Dice (630 R), 89%/94%
--[X]Kansk-Achinsk Basin Exploitation(Stage 2/5), 1 Dice (160 R), 86%/100%
--[X]Atomash(Stage 1/3), 3 Dice (930 R), 12%/19%
--[X]ZIL Automotive Plant Modernization, 2 Dice (520 R), 50%/63%
-[X]Rocketry (3/3 Dice, 0 R)
--[X]Mars Sample Return, 1 Dice
--[X]Mercury Exploration Program, 1 Dice
--[X]CMEA Payloads, 1 Dice
-[X]Light Industry (5/6 Dice, 740 R)
--[X]Light Home Appliance Plants, 2 Dice (320 R), 79%/87%
--[X]Second Generation Furnishings, 2 Dice (260 R), 79%/87%
--[X]Home Supplies Production, 1 Dice (160 R), 100%/100%
-[X]Chemical Industry (8/11 Dice, 1520 R)
--[X]Timan-Pechora Fields, 1 Dice (130 R), 75%/90%
--[X]Plastic Industries(Stage 2/5), 3 Dice (630 R), 89%/94%
--[X]Stabilization of Agrochemicals(Stage 1/2), 2 Dice (380 R), 59%/72%
--[X]Synthetic Rubber Plants(Stage 2/4), 2 Dice (380 R), 100%/100%
-[X]Agriculture (4/4 Dice, 450 R)
--[X]Domestic Meat Programs(Stage 4/10), 2 Dice (230 R), 2%/7%
--[X]Farmers Markets, 2 Dice (220 R), 59%/72%
-[X]Services (4/3 Dice, 660 R)
--[X]Expanded Childcare(Stage 6/6), 1 Dice (90 R), 52%/67%
--[X]Transportation Enterprises(Stage 3/5), 3 Dice (570 R), 93%/97%
-[X]Bureaucracy (6/3+3 Forced Dice, 0 R)
--[X]Prison Reform Program, 1 Dice
--[X]Increasing Domestic Innovation, 1 Dice
--[X]Domestic Production Program, 1 Dice
--[X]Expanded Education, 1 Dice
--[X]Scientific Exchange Programs, 1 Dice
--[X]Reorganize a Department(Light Industry), 1 Dice
 
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...wait, really? I assumed electronics would be more delicate.

I thought it would only be basically useful for raw materials deliveries
For instance modern mobile phone electronics are rated to withstand a few hundred g, this is needed to survive fall damage. With a bit of extra reinforcement some one who was doing some basic tests for a spacegun concept managed to make it g-resistant enough.

Though if one thinks about it, it shouldn't really be 'that' surprising as some artillery systems have a variety of smart shells which thus also have electronics. And those need to survive a similar kind of g-loading as well.
 
To elaborate on my thoughts re: immigration reform, as currently written the biggest practical change is allowing managers to import as many scabs as they want for whatever shitty job they want with no limits. If you post a trash job working 12 hour shifts for minimum wage in the pigshit mines and nobody takes it for 3 months, instead of having to either miss your targets or cave to higher local working standards, you can just import all the Indians you could ever want until your enterprise is raking in profits again.

If it wasn't specifically at manager discretion and designed from the bottom up to undercut local labor standards and wages I'd be more open to the humanitarian angle, but as written the actual loosening of immigration standards is all at manager discretion to help managers suppress Soviet labor.
 
On the other hand, Semyonov is perhaps the most pro-Euro politician in power right now. So if we need to use a favour to encourage him to push it through... Why is Semyonov so shy? Does he feel some economies are not ready for it, does he feel that he lacks the political capital, is he just worried that if it goes wrong, it will bring down his already weak secretaryship?

I super feel that Blackstar is not telling us important information. (I know, I know, situation normal in this quest, but this particular information dearth is especially unsettling.)

I am also torn. The events in Austria might make our allies keen to join the Euro and make it work, basically with the idea that anything that goes wrong in one country post Euro will be bailed out by the rest. On the other hand, maybe our allies will be less keen to join because they will fear that this project has become a way of taking their money to save Austria. Also, we were also in fairly hot water during Klim's early years, will our keenness for the Euro be seen as us trying to get our allies to subsidize us?

And just in general, a rushed adoption of the Euro will leave lots of time bombs to explode later. Bringing the entire European CMEA (I think that's the target, and our Asian and African allies will not be brought in) into one currency system will require alot of work to harmonize the various economies, much as the OTL Euro required years of harsh budgetary discipline and banking reforms from each member before joining. Because instead of each country being able to take a fiscal and monetary approach that suited their own situations, they needed to wedge themselves into a one-size-fits-all approach. And in 2008, we all found that the efforts to harmonize Europe's economies failed, and there were serious financial crises in Greece, Ireland and Spain (and almost France and Italy). A rushed implementation of TTL's Euro could lead to worse problems.

But TTL's Euro also includes a bunch of very important financial reforms, like ditching the gold straight jacket!

This is high risk, high reward stuff.
I am 90% sure this is Semyonov not feeling secure in his position, he is the main proponent of the Euro, if not as seemingly enthusiastic or willing to chase it as Kosyign, so I can't think of many other reasons for him not pushing for this on his own and this seems the simplest explanations. All of the favors listed have a more or less obvious reason as to why Semyonov considers it well, a favor. Immigration is probably going to be exploitative and clash against trade unions, education is going to be very very expensive, labor cost ajustments is going to be trying to arrest wages (unpopular and bad for the workers), enterprise benefits is very problematic for obvious reasons etc but this one is ostensibly he is onboard with otherwise, so that's my guess.

As for it being a rushed implementation that could go wrong, I don't think there is much to worry about, here is the text itself:

[]Force a Euro Vote: The current economic crisis in CMEA is the perfect pretext for driving forward decisive reforms to improve integration and local economics. The Euro is still in its prototypical stages but something along the lines of a universal currency of interconvertibility can be implemented now. This would be an effective introduction of standards for national economies including maximum deficits outside emergency circumstances, a normalization of interest rates, and several financial standards otherwise only upheld in the Union and Germany. The new currency itself would serve as a transitional point, taking a basket of currencies across the block to keep its valuation stable while expanding its use for all inter-state banking transactions. (Uses Favor) (1 Dice)

This actually is not the countries adopting the Euro, it is establishing something like the European Monetary System and a virtual monetary unit based on a basket of currencies for use by the Central Banks of each state. Also, creating standards in order to avoid liquidity crisis like Austria is facing. Historically, the European Community did this like 20 years before the actual implementation of the Euro.

I think the main risk with this is that the vote fails and it makes Semyonov look bad. He isn't exactly in the best of positions right now.

As for my plan not having the Saratov plant, I simply did not have the time to cook up a new one yesterday, I am making a new (imo better) plan right now.
 
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The favor we already traded to secure a Euro vote before 1975 was with Romanov, weirdly enough, so in theory at least he still owes us that rather than having to rely on Semyonov bringing it to the floor. In hindsight it's suspicious that Roomanov collected on his half of the favor trade immediately, but we have to wait potentially 3-4 years for him to deliver on his half of the bargain. He might have played us there, especially if he doesn't bring the Euro to the floor before something like an oil crisis kills it...
 
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