And What a Dance it Was (NO SV, War is Coming, Prepare)

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Wingman404 said:
Take our anger out on the gang and maybe wannabe raised our number to 15000 this would give and another thing tried to romance alicent as it would give us more political capita
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Well, I'm going to say... Once again, we are religiously obligated to have a Harem... Just saying.;)
Carnifex-Chan said:
I mean... We have dragon.. They don't.. End of argument.
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We're trying to police The City, not Burn it down.

As much as it would make things easier on us.:V
 
Tabascoheath said:
We cant burn the city to the ground to snuff a few criminals, we're the captain of the city guard not a blood crazed pyromaniac.
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I mean, with the amount of Trauma that is going around, and our Avenger status slowly getting known...

Are you sure that we might not turn into one?
Tabascoheath said:
verything we do is though the *color* Cloaks, so grey ghost is off the table for us.
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For now at least. If things get to the Helena Riots situation, we might need to break out the Dragon.
 
Magoose said:
Well, I'm going to say... Once again, we are religiously obligated to have a Harem... Just saying.;)

We're trying to police The City, not Burn it down.

As much as it would make things easier on us.:V
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I mean, we don't have to tell those misbehaving that we wouldn't actually burn the city down... If they call our bluff, its their fault we follow through on our threats. The worst thing they can do is call our bluff, which is terrible for them.
 
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Wingman404 said:
What what is a Helena riot situation?
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What I describe the Entire city, rising up, and having a single minded Goal.

In that case, it was Helena's suicide that sparked the Septons of King's Landing to say death to the Dragons, broke the city watch's hold on the city, saw three Bastard Pretenders rise up that tore the city asunder, and kill Rhaeynera's Chances at winning the war on her own terms.

It also killed the last of her kids with Harwin.

It was only luck that Aegon 3 survived when Aegon the Second had him dead to rights and could have ended her line for good.
Carnifex-Chan said:
I mean, we don't have to tell those misbehaving that we wouldn't actually burn the city down... If they call our bluff, its their fault we follow through on our threats.
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Yeah, but Viersys wants us to do a good job. So again, Dragons are off the table for now.
 
Magoose said:
I mean, with the amount of Trauma that is going around, and our Avenger status slowly getting known...

Are you sure that we might not turn into one?
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Taking a step back boss, like you suggested, to be more thoughtful and not as Roman.

Magoose said:
For now at least. If things get to the Helena Riots situation, we might need to break out the Dragon.
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With good planning and fortuitous Magoose dice that I'm hoping that wont be the case for at least a few turns.

To play devils advocate for a moment, the gangs around the city do serve a purpose we're not really seeing here with Lucien's perspective. OOC knowledge lets us know that criminal organizations like gangs serve populations in ways that more legal institutions cant or don't so the solution, in my eyes, is to undermine the powerbase of the gangs by creating and empowering an institution to supplant them as we wipe them away.

We cant just destroy the gangs, we have to show the people that relied on their protection and smuggling that we have an alternative, that alternative comes in the form of a city guard that is robust enough to protect and keep the streets as safe as they can be, and a religious organization, this is a medieval kingdom after all, to feed and shelter where the faith fails to do.

We're already on track to make the Red Cloaks, or Black Cloaks, to be an effective street force, trained and armed in tactics to break riots and cull criminals, but if we stop there we leave a job half finished. Breaking the gangs power will just leave a vacuum for other gangs to fill, which is why I champion the Valyrian faith as an alternative. If we can get the Storm Singers on the street and doing what the faith does, feeding the hungry and sheltering the homeless, we can contest both the power of the seven AND the criminal element. (I don't talk about a Valyrian militia as a just meme folks, if the faith has one the Storm Singers will make one too, better to have it under watchful eye than not)
 
Cyberphilosipher said:
So do you consider Daemon Westeros's most capable man, who never ruled anything.
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He is not a good ruler.

Nor would he be a good king.

He would however, be a good hand... if only he was given the chance.
Tabascoheath said:
Taking a step back boss, like you suggested, to be more thoughtful and not as Roman.
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Indeed.

But once again, I'm writing a character who is changing. He's growing older. Wiser. Angrier.

He might change for the worse. or the better. It just depends on what happens soon enough.

And how we react.
Tabascoheath said:
With good planning and fortuitous Magoose dice that I;m hoping that wont be the case for at least a few turns.
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That might not be the case for decades.

It took a very powerful thing like one of the best bright spots of the war killing herself to whip her the city into a frenzy...

That might not happen.
Tabascoheath said:
which is why I champion the Valyrian faith as an alternative. If we can get the Storm Singers on the street and doing what the faith does, feeding the hungry and sheltering the homeless, we can contest both the power of the seven AND the criminal element. (I don't talk about a Valyrian militia as a just meme folks, if the faith has one the Storm Singers will make one too, better to have it under watchful eye than not)
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Here is something I will say:

The Faith of the Seven and the Valyrians together can be enough...

But only together, and when they aren't trying to kill eachother.
 
Carnifex-Chan said:
Unlike him, the targaryens have literally more than 10 combat ready dragons, with many more on the way.
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Carnifex-Chan said:
mean... We have dragon.. They don't.. End of argument.
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But losing a dragon is a major sunk cost.

Finding a way to protect the dragons from Dornish poison first (and possibly master meddling as possibly happens latter on), and then we have breathing room for attack.




Magoose said:
Who's a Good Dragon, who's a Good Dragon!?
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Grey Ghost is the true king.
 
Ghost in the sun said:
Grey Ghost will find a Valaryian Sword abandoned somewhere like a dog fecths a stick.

Or he may just ate an assasin sent after Lucien when nobody was looking.
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Or maybe he just completely dominated The Cannibal in a fight, and so has established his dominance...

I mean, Lucien already did it, so Grey Ghost should to.

Or maybe he just hit a growth spurt (thanks to not being chained in the Dragon pits) and is now the biggest Dragon in Westeros


.... We will see when the author is ready to post.
 
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The Knight For All Seasons #2
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    • The Knight For All Seasons #2

    Ser Robert Wendwater, captain of the City Watch was walking down the street with his Lord Commander and Prince to get to a meeting with the Master of Laws Lord Beesbury.

    Roberts opinion of of Lord Beesbury was...not the best. Especially when he heard that Beesbury was talking about Prince Lucien in a bad light. If it's to be believed Lord Strong and possibly Lord Velaryon share said opinions.

    Those ungrateful bastards. The Prince, Robert himself and the rest of the City Watch stopped the riots and solving the problems of the city and this is how its rewarded? Suspicions and paranoid of the a Coup that will never happen. Only ones on the Small Council that don't seem to believe are the King, the Hand and Grand Maester. Though Robert suspects its some politics at play on the Hands part but Robert couldn't tell the Hands play yet.

    Robert been with Prince Lucien long enough to know he wouldn't do that. Robert learned three things that made up Prince Lucien.

    The first was his religion of the Old Gods of Valyria. Robert has seem him pray to his Gods and how other people of his faith looked at him. Which makes sense. People of the south have allowed the Old Gods to stick around so like Robert many just accepted other religions. Though if Robert was being honest? He couldn't really get the multiple wives thing. One wife seems difficult on its own so curious how Prince Lucien is gonna handle at least two?

    The second thing Robert learned is Prince Lucien loyalty to his family. The letters sent to the Targaryen at Runestone, his meetings with Princess Rhaenyra and King Viserys, his parents and younger siblings and last but not least the relationship between Prince Lucien and Prince Daemon. Robert hasn't seen them interact but from what he has heard? It's basically a father and son relationship.

    And the third thing is Prince Lucien ability to change with the times. In other words. Prince Lucien ability to adapt to the changing circumstances. That was a important thing to have. Roberts house words is all about adapting. That makes Prince Lucien a great leader. That and his ability to gets people's loyalty. Robert himself included along with the entire City Watch.

    Just before they passed through the gates of the Red Keep a rat like man approached the Prince with what looks like a letter. "A message from the Rogue Prince, my prince." the rat like man said while giving Prince Lucien the letter. Once the letter left his hand the rat like man immediately left.

    Prince Lucien opened the letter and started to read the message from Prince Daemon. Robert picked to remain silent to see how Prince Lucien reacted. Once finished Prince Lucien face turned serious and then put the letter away. "This remains between us Ser Robert? " Prince Lucien said to Robert.

    Robert could only smirk before answering his Lord Commander. "Keep what between us? We didn't interact with anyone on the way to Lord Beesbury, my Prince." Lucien smiled at Robert response.

    "Good....Thank you Robert." Prince Lucien said while they continued to their meeting to Lord Beesbury.

    (And scene. A little more Robert Wendwater and his views of the situation that the City Watch probably shares with him. Magoose made a suggestion on Lucien three values and that Daemon was still helping Lucien even when he isn't even in Kingslanding. Oh the rat like man is Cheese the rat catcher of the Red Keep.)

    (Would like a another action for next turn if possible? Could be used the possible Daemon action or the Alicent action.)
     
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