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A Sword Without a Hilt: A Song of Ice and Fire/D&D 3.5 Crossover

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bigbow said:
Hmm, while you may have a point, it seems like an IC "mistake" to do. Its a passionate speech, and Viserys is kind of pouring out his soul so that other people may join his vision. Its okay his feelings for Lya show a bit here, and I don't think anything horrible will come out of it.

That said, you might want to tag Azel as he seems to carry all the votes, my job here is done ;)
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Thanks again for writing it up! It's good.

@Azel thoughts on substituting something else for "beloved Lya," to be a little less on the nose about the whole...not a mistress thing?

Also, something I was thinking about while grocery shopping. We ennobled both Ser Gerold and Alinor awhile back, but they haven't really gotten their house names or anything yet. DP probably wouldn't hate potential suggestions, given the amount of other things he has going on.

For Alinor, I thought Goldenhart would be amusing, as a subtle reference to her origins (prostitute with a heart of gold), and a reference to her rise to power (handling our gold) combo-ed with a classic heraldic animal (the hart). The downside with it is the goldenheart tree, but, eh.
 
Eleas said:
There's coddling, and there's shades of Crusader Kings 2 fail (aka "shit right I should probably have assigned that kid a tutor at some point").

More seriously, if we continue as bad guardian, that pretty much signals weakness. It says we don't honor obligations.
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We did make sure she has teachers.

In fact she even spends time with our inner circle, besides learning magic and training further with the blade after Garin personally got her started on that.
 
Eleas said:
There's coddling, and there's shades of Crusader Kings 2 fail (aka "shit right I should probably have assigned that kid a tutor at some point").

More seriously, if we continue as bad guardian, that pretty much signals weakness. It says we don't honor obligations.
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We arranged for her to learn to fight. We arranged for her to learn magic. We arranged for her to continue whatever studies she might have wanted to do. We arranged a room for her in our keep and treat her as one of our household. We had a Valyrian Steel Longsword set aside for her and were planning on giving it to her, except that it turns out she has Weapon Finesse as a trait.

Just because we're too busy to directly oversee her development doesn't mean we're bad guardians.
 
Eleas said:
There's coddling, and there's shades of Crusader Kings 2 fail (aka "shit right I should probably have assigned that kid a tutor at some point").

More seriously, if we continue as bad guardian, that pretty much signals weakness. It says we don't honor obligations.
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Remember that the POV something is told from shades the narrative. Valaena is used to and expects a much more regimented life than she currently has but that does not mean she does not have any lessons. It's just that outside of those lessons she is free to do what she pleases to a much greater extent than is usual for a Westerosi noble lady of fourteen.
 
Maybe give her some personal attention? There's nothing like having the King drop by for a minute to let you know you're important.
 
I think most of our wards sat in on a start of the month meeting at one point. You know, the ones where Viserys plans everyones time down to when they are allowed to sleep for more then 2 hours a night.

They are all quite happy that Viserys isn't making their schedules.
 
My terrible guardian thing was mostly hyperbole, and more aimed at all the people not named Valaena (who we've given the most attention to).

Azel said:
Made it "Lya the Sage". They called her "the Mage" already and now she made people and kickstarted the indstrial revolution. Time for an upgrade.
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Great time to break it out.
 
Has anyone tried to speak to Viserys on their own? Find it a little weird nobody wants to speak to him, if only to see if he'll help them or ask permission for something.

Free actions that mostly made me thought of this, which I think we should talk to others more.
 
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I kindof want to see Yss being overwhelmed by the snakeling hiss barrage. 'When I grow up Ill be as big as you!' 'Mum says you blessed our eggs, are you my dad?' and ofcourse tail biting. :p
 
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Adhoc vote count started by Duesal on Jan 29, 2018 at 1:25 PM, finished with 146127 posts and 11 votes.
  • [X] Plan Glorious Vision.
    -[X] "People of Sorcerers Deep, friends, family, soldiers, workers, citizens and honored guests. It's been only a few scant months since our enemies used the infernal, sorcerous power of Wildfire to try and wipe our city from the face of this earth, sowing despair and destruction on those who dared dream for a better future. As I promised you then in the midst of the ashes and the smoke, so I deliver to you now the first part of my promise. Thanks to Lya's keen mind and sorcerous might, and with the help of hundreds of other hard working citizens of the Deep, fey, human, minotaur and beyond, a great work of a kind unseen in ages has been erected."
    -[X] "Sorcerous fire sought to destroy this city, but that is not all that is magic, for sorcerous power now stands ready at the tips of our fingers not to destroy, but to create. From this cauldron of steel and sweat comes but the first part of a golden future now within reach. Enemies rise from the waves, from the hells, from the dealings with cruel Lords and Masters, and yet for each of them that rise we rise higher still. From this engine of steel and magic the Legions of the Deep shall be armed and armored, a statement to the monsters and those foolish enough to stand against us, a statement which proves an age old adage true enough… a statement I have seen and breathed throughout my travels."
    -[X] "Even Monsters can bleed."
    -[X] "And bleed they shall. No soldier of mine shall be found wanting, and thus no piece of equipment for them shall be neglected. In fine masterwork steel I will armor them, and with cold, unyielding steel I shall arm them. They shall be the hand of the King locked in fist, so that all citizens of my realm may sleep soundly at night."
    -[X] "…But this creation does more than herald righteous battle. It heralds the beginning of a new age for all mankind and beyond. Through hard work and persistence, we will soon behold a dozen creations of the same ambitious scope, if not purpose. Magic and our ingenuity shall continue onwards, creating new and revolutionary constructs which will raise the standards of living of all citizens. New business opportunities will continue to emerge as two of the most potent forces in history join in solemn matrimony: Human Ingenuity and Magic. From their union their children shall populate this earth: Prosperity, Order, and perhaps most important of all: Hope."
    -[X] "A simple sort of man may see only a big furnace behind me, but I see but the first glimmers of a glorious future given physical form. And so, from the bottom of my heart, to all those who stand with me in search of this vision, I say thank you. To Lya the Sage, to my artificers and my enchanters, to my countless workers who even now stand ready to pour steel and through their sweat bring about a vision for a new age: To you all, I say Thank You."
    [X] [Leila] Salary of 600 IM/year, and 1% commission based in the cost of the items she made.
    [x] Leila salary of 600 IM a year no commission
    [X] Plan Glorious Vision.
    -[X] "People of Sorcerers Deep, friends, family, soldiers, workers, citizens and honored guests. It's been only a few scant months since our enemies used the infernal, sorcerous power of Wildfire to try and wipe our city from the face of this earth, sowing despair and destruction on those who dared dream for a better future. As I promised you then in the midst of the ashes and the smoke, so I deliver to you now the first part of my promise. Thanks to Lya's keen mind and sorcerous might, and with the help of hundreds of other hard working citizens of the Deep, fey, human, minotaur and beyond, a great work of a kind unseen in ages has been erected."
    -[X] "Sorcerous fire sought to destroy this city, but that is not all that is magic, for sorcerous power now stands ready at the tips of our fingers not to destroy, but to create. From this cauldron of steel and sweat comes but the first part of a golden future now within reach. Enemies rise from the waves, from the hells, from the dealings with cruel Lords and Masters, and yet for each of them that rise we rise higher still. From this engine of steel and magic the Legions of the Deep shall be armed and armored, a statement to the monsters and those foolish enough to stand against us, a statement which proves an age old adage true enough… a statement I have seen and breathed throughout my travels."
    -[X] "Even Monsters can bleed."
    -[X] "And bleed they shall. No soldier of mine shall be found wanting, and thus no piece of equipment for them shall be neglected. In fine masterwork steel I will armor them, and with cold, unyielding steel I shall arm them. They shall be the hand of the King locked in fist, so that all citizens of my realm may sleep soundly at night."
    -[X] "…But this creation does more than herald righteous battle. It heralds the beginning of a new age for all mankind and beyond. Through hard work and persistence, we will soon behold a dozen creations of the same ambitious scope, if not purpose. Magic and our ingenuity shall continue onwards, creating new and revolutionary constructs which will raise the standards of living of all citizens. New business opportunities will continue to emerge as two of the most potent forces in history join in solemn matrimony: Human Ingenuity and Magic. From their union their children shall populate this earth: Prosperity, Order, and perhaps most important of all: Hope."
    -[X] "A simple sort of man may see only a big furnace behind me, but I see but the first glimmers of a glorious future given physical form. And so, from the bottom of my heart, to all those who stand with me in search of this vision, I say thank you. To Lya the Sage, to my artificers and my enchanters, to my countless workers who even now stand ready to pour steel and through their sweat bring about a vision for a new age: To you all, I say Thank You."
    [X] Plan Glorious Vision.
    -[X] "People of Sorcerers Deep, friends, family, soldiers, workers, citizens and honored guests. It's been only a few scant months since our enemies used the infernal, sorcerous power of Wildfire to try and wipe our city from the face of this earth, sowing despair and destruction on those who dared dream for a better future. As I promised you then in the midst of the ashes and the smoke, so I deliver to you now the first part of my promise. Thanks to Lya's keen mind and sorcerous might, and with the help of hundreds of other hard working citizens of the Deep, fey, human, minotaur and beyond, a great work of a kind unseen in ages has been erected."
    -[X] "Sorcerous fire sought to destroy this city, but that is not all that is magic, for sorcerous power now stands ready at the tips of our fingers not to destroy, but to create. From this cauldron of steel and sweat comes but the first part of a golden future now within reach. Enemies rise from the waves, from the hells, from the dealings with cruel Lords and Masters, and yet for each of them that rise we rise higher still. From this engine of steel and magic the Legions of the Deep shall be armed and armored, a statement to the monsters and those foolish enough to stand against us, a statement which proves an age old adage true enough… a statement I have seen and breathed throughout my travels."
    -[X] "Even Monsters can bleed."
    -[X] "And bleed they shall. No soldier of mine shall be found wanting, and thus no piece of equipment for them shall be neglected. In fine masterwork steel I will armor them, and with cold, unyielding steel I shall arm them. They shall be the hand of the King locked in fist, so that all citizens of my realm may sleep soundly at night."
    -[X] "…But this creation does more than herald righteous battle. It heralds the beginning of a new age for all mankind and beyond. Through hard work and persistence, we will soon behold a dozen creations of the same ambitious scope, if not purpose. Magic and our ingenuity shall continue onwards, creating new and revolutionary constructs which will raise the standards of living of all citizens. New business opportunities will continue to emerge as two of the most potent forces in history join in solemn matrimony: Human Ingenuity and Magic. From their union their children shall populate this earth: Prosperity, Order, and perhaps most important of all: Hope."
    -[X] "A simple sort of man may see only a big furnace behind me, but I see but the first glimmers of a glorious future given physical form. And so, from the bottom of my heart, to all those who stand with me in search of this vision, I say thank you. To Lya the Sage, to my artificers and my enchanters, to my countless workers who even now stand ready to pour steel and through their sweat bring about a vision for a new age: To you all, I say Thank You."
    [X] [Leila] Salary of 600 IM/year, and 1% commission based in the cost of the items she made.
    [x] Leila salary of 600 IM a year no commission
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I stand corrected: I overlooked/forgot the particulars regarding Valaena.
 
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Is the vote still open? Please no commision, im glad people Saw the issue with the 5% (which was criminal) but we are overpaying by a lot even with the 1%,what about just giving her a salary for now and and giving her a commission in a couple years, when our party is fully equipped?
Going back to read the interlude now.
 
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