By the way, @Diomedon @Azel, heads up that this is an option:
Another question, though. You know how Molten Skies has veins of Bronze in spite of Bronze technically being an alloy? So could Lya use Fabricate specifically on the Bronze alone to draw it out of the earth and craft it into ingots?
Sure, that works.
We could walk Lya right up to any vein of precious metals anywhere and have her Fabricate them right out of the ground. The spell uses the "same material" for whatever it makes, so all we have to do is pick out one piece of pure bronze or gold or whatever, have her use that as the basis for the Fabricating, then lo and behold the mining does itself.
 
We still have the 1% commission then? Thats a lot, thats giving her a medium size Fortune on top of a small side Fortune, she is not the only person on our employ, where is ser Gerolds Fortune? Or alinors? She would be more than Happy with half that salary ( which would be 10x the salary of a skilled artisan), and you are giving her potentially 4-5x that.
 
We still have the 1% commission then? Thats a lot, thats giving her a medium size Fortune on top of a small side Fortune, she is not the only person on our employ, where is ser Gerolds Fortune? Or alinors? She would be more than Happy with half that salary ( which would be 10x the salary of a skilled artisan), and you are giving her potentially 4-5x that.
I'm not happy about it either, but let's just be glad that we managed to murder the idea of a 5% commission.
 
I'm not happy about it either, but let's just be glad that we managed to murder the idea of a 5% commission.
My real concern is that she is going to be 20 times richer than the Next "rich" person on the Island, hell, excluding Garin she will have far more money to her name than any of our companions, by virtue of being a level 5 npc.
I think after the iron bank people just forgot the value of money, sigh, i guess i needed to redecorate my place in the caves anyway.
 
My real concern is that she is going to be 20 times richer than the Next "rich" person on the Island, hell, excluding Garin she will have far more money to her name than any of our companions, by virtue of being a level 5 npc.
I think after the iron bank people just forgot the value of money, sigh, i guess i needed to redecorate my place in the caves anyway.
That's a pretty good point.

[x] Leila salary of 600 IM a year no commission
 
That's a pretty good point.

[x] Leila salary of 600 IM a year no commission
[x] Leila salary of 600 IM a year no commission
on the off chance we can still do something about it.
[x] Leila salary of 600 IM a year no commission
Too late, guys.
Ok this looks pretty solid. Speech incoming.
If you wanted to fight this then it should have been before the vote was closed. @TotallyNotEvil, we had a shot at getting rid of the commission entirely. It's gone now.
 
I actually have a minute to post. Crazy busy day at work

Okay, back on the commission issue. Let's say Leila does 6000 IM worth of crafting in a month. That's a full 200 IM day every day. Possible, but unlikely. That would equal 60 IM per month in addition to her 50 IM salary, or an additional 720 IM per year, for a total of 1320.

More realistically, she might do 15 days of crafting, for 30 IM in commission each month.

Is that really so bad? I can see how 5% might have seemed like too much, but 1% is a drop in the proverbial bucket. Remember she saves us that most valuable resource of all, time.
 
I actually have a minute to post. Crazy busy day at work

Okay, back on the commission issue. Let's say Leila does 6000 IM worth of crafting in a month. That's a full 200 IM day every day. Possible, but unlikely. That would equal 60 IM per month in addition to her 50 IM salary, or an additional 720 IM per year, for a total of 1320.

More realistically, she might do 15 days of crafting, for 30 IM in commission each month.

Is that really so bad? I can see how 5% might have seemed like too much, but 1% is a drop in the proverbial bucket. Remember she saves us that most valuable resource of all, time.
I still hate it. She's already getting a fortune with 600 IM. Why are people acting like that salary isn't enough? Remember a time when we would have been overjoyed at a couple hundred IM? Just because we have more money now doesn't lessen its value.
 
Part MDCLXXIV: The Fires of Creation
The Fires of Creation

Twenty-Seventh Day of the Twelfth Month 292 AC

You turn to look over the crowd: from your friends looking on with a tolerant good cheer, to your subjects in whose eyes you spy a spark of wonder, to your mother hidden behind her facade of illusion, and even the representative of the Iron Bank and the Sealord's unofficial eyes in the Deep whom you had 'coincidentally' invited.

"People of Sorcerers Deep, friends, family, soldiers, workers, citizens, and honored guests. It's been only a few scant months since our enemies used the infernal, sorcerous power of Wildfire to try and wipe our city from the face of this earth, sowing despair and destruction on those who dared dream for a better future," you declare with pride. "As I promised you then in the midst of the ashes and the smoke, so I deliver to you now the first part of my promise. Thanks to Lya's keen mind and sorcerous might, and with the help of hundreds of other hard working citizens of the Deep, fey, human, minotaur and beyond, a great work of a kind unseen in ages has been erected." Here you catch Malarys' eye and offer the smallest shrug, a sort of half-apology for again comparing this single simple smelter to the works of Valyria of old. Yet even as you do so you silently vow that you will surpass those ancient forges in majesty.

"Sorcerous fire sought to destroy this city, but that is not all that is magic, for sorcerous power now stands ready at the tips of our fingers not to destroy, but to create. From this cauldron of steel and sweat comes but the first part of a golden future now within reach. Enemies rise from the waves, from the hells, from the dealings with cruel Lords and Masters, and yet for each of them that rise we rise higher still. From this engine of steel and magic the Legions of the Deep shall be armed and armored, a statement to the monsters and those foolish enough to stand against us, a statement which proves an age old adage true enough… a statement I have seen and breathed throughout my travels." Here you pause, allowing a deathly hush to fall upon the gathering that no sound may be heard but for that of the smelter itself... No doubt they can guess the words that will come next, yet still they wait with seeming baited breath.

"Even monsters can bleed." Smiths and soldiers, men of means and simple folk whose only skill by the work of their brow all cheer together as one caught up in the power of your words, dare you hope, of your vision? When the cheers fall silent at last you carry through, "And bleed they shall. No soldier of mine shall be found wanting, and thus no piece of equipment for them shall be neglected. In fine steel as crafted from a master's hand I will armor them, and with cold, unyielding steel I shall arm them. They shall be the hand of the King locked in fist, so that all citizens of my realm may sleep soundly at night."

Amidst the smiling faces and shining eyes you can clearly see the expression of the Iron Bank's representative's lighten as a far more immediate concern than horrors from the deep is lifted from his shoulders, knowing the steel will not be sold but used for your own ends at least for now. You do not begrudge it for it is clear a tendency to get caught up in passionate speeches would be rather detrimental to a man in his position.

Thus you pass to that which is nearest to your heart of all the words you shall speak today. "Know that this creation does more than herald righteous battle. It heralds the beginning of a new age for all mankind and beyond. Through hard work and persistence, we will soon behold a dozen creations of the same ambitious scope, if not purpose. Magic and our ingenuity shall continue onward, creating new and revolutionary constructs which will better the lives of all citizens. New business opportunities will continue to emerge as two of the most potent forces in history join in solemn matrimony: Human Ingenuity and Magic. From their union their children shall populate this earth: Prosperity, Order, and perhaps most important of all: Hope."

This time the pause in your words heralds a different sort of silence... contemplative and broken up by the odd patter of applause coming out of time from those more excitable, or perhaps more desirous of favors, members of the court.

"At first glance one may see only a large furnace behind me, but I see but the first glimmers of a glorious future given physical form. And so, from the bottom of my heart, to all those who stand with me in search of this vision, I say thank you. To Lya the Sage, to my artificers and my enchanters, to my countless workers who even now stand ready to pour steel and through their sweat bring about a vision for a new age: To you all, I say Thank You."

As the commemorative ingots are being handed out you step away, back into the company of your friends, to perhaps unsurprisingly find Lya blushing as she tells you, "You did not have to make it sound like I made the whole thing. The tinker fey..."

"Care very little for my or anyone else's accolades, and considering what they are most known for I did not consider it wise to mention their involvement too deeply. You seem more trustworthy then them, love," you offer with a smile.

As her embarrassment cools, she shakes her head as though in disappointment. "Faint praise that, but I suppose I shall have to take it."

"There is still time to call it Lya Steel if you've changed your mind," you offer innocently.

It is fortunate, perhaps, that she had not picked up her ingot yet.

***​

On the way back to the Deep you seek out Leila Hill for a word. At first she seems apprehensive, though not as weary as she might have been a few months back. When you reveal that you come bearing not reproach but terms of service including half a hundred gold dragons per month the young woman seems rather overwhelmed.

"Your grace, you don't need to..." she begins, but you cut her off.

"Perhaps I indeed do not need to pay you an honest wage, but I wish to nonetheless. Before you count it exorbitant, consider the sheer scarcity of your skills in this world of awakening power."

"Bless you... that is, thank you, your grace," she says, flustered.

Realizing that any notion of public acclaim is likely to be viewed with alarm, you merely offer gently, "You might wish to consider a name also, for surely you have outgrown your current one."

With that you bid her farewell and leave her to her thoughts.

What do you do next?

[] Speak to Liset and Reva about Bloodraven's offer
-[] Write in

[] Speak with Maelor about his own plans for the future
-[] Write in

[] Write in (Free action length only)


OOC: Here's your chance for some more conversations before the turn vote rolls around.
 
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I would say Leila should only get commission as opposed to a wage in the future, if she herself comes up with a magical commodity, if she comes up with something that we can sell, then she deserves a share of the sales, both for when she herself makes them, and when our other crafters make them, but as long as she's only making things we have taught her to make, a wage is enough, you go from employee to junior partner, only when you contribute something new instead of just doing your job.

Depending on things I might vote to raise her wage in the future, but unless she begins to take initiative, as opposed to just making what we ask her to, I'm not voting to pay her commission, well unless we are forced to give other employees a commission to keep them.
 
[X] Speak to Liset and Reva about Bloodraven's offer
-[X] Ask them how they're doing in general, get an overall update on their progress or anything they might wish to speak with you about.
--[X] Perfect chance for them to speak up on any requests.
-[X] Regarding the Heart Tree, if you need to, assure them you've taken steps to assure their safety
-[X] This is a good shot at unlocking strong magic for them, magic they could use to defend themselves, but it has to be their choice in the end. They will not be forced into anything.
 
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