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A Sword Without a Hilt: A Song of Ice and Fire/D&D 3.5 Crossover

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Goldfish said:
To put it bluntly, screw the other plates. After this turn, what do we actually have up in the air right now that requires our personal attention?

Tyrosh? We can conquer it if we want, when we want. Or we can let it descend into an orgy of cultist provoked violence, with fiends running wild in the streets and blood turning the sea red. It's only our problem if we make it our problem.
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IC Depression.
 
Artemis1992 said:
Also, our own Raise is getting a bit too weak to feel save.

If that Devil had stabbed one of ours we couldn't have raised him/her, thanks to that amulet.
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The only one they could have gone after in that instance was Tyene...

...which, you know. Damn. Poor Tyene. Always with the demons and the devils...
 
What's really discriminatory isn't the well justified enmity people feel towards the "fookin' Dornish". It's all this racism towards devils!

#FiendLivesMatter #HarvestersGonnaHarvest #NinthCircleShill
 
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OK I'm up and have read though the night's worth of comments and so far this is what I think is the best solution:

There is going to be a scaling down on existential threats and thus a slow down on XP gains so long as you are not poking clearly marked areas. The reason I say scale down and not get rid of them is because your enemies do have agency and I do not want to get rid of it for obvious reasons.

Thoughts?
 
Fire which burns fire.

Also it's pretty damn clear that anything which has the personal power to not have to rely on you totally and completely for the benediction of your god cannot be your chosen Messiah.

You couldn't very well puppet guide them on the right and proper course, now could you?

@DragonParadox:

That's basically what we've been talking about, yes. For a while now, we've pointed out reasons on why we won't very well lose interest in what's occurring, or even lose all sense of challenge, just because a CR appropriate encounter didn't ambush us in the middle of politics.

In fact, nothing takes us out of politics and straight into the depths of the salt mines like having a combat encounter interrupt them, which we didn't at least in some way instigate.
 
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DragonParadox said:
OK I'm up and have read though the night's worth of comments and so far this is what I think is the best solution:

There is going to be a scaling down on existential threats and thus a slow down on XP gains so long as you are not poking clearly marked areas. The reason I say scale down and not get rid of them is because your enemies do have agency and I do not want to get rid of it for obvious reasons.

Thoughts?
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I love it.

I was going to suggest multiple encounter tables similar to what you hinted at having for Valyria loot tables. Not sure if it would also work with however you're taking this approach.

1/4CR for some areas, 1/2 for others maybe 2x for the obviously-not-supposed-to-be-here areas.
 
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@DragonParadox
That sounds excellent, also your dedication to working with your players to try to find solutions is very admirable. I think the thread will react very positively to not having to always be on paranoid high alert every time we step outside our door, and there are certainly enough irons in the fire right now to keep us quite busy for a good long while.
 
We were talking about implementing Always-On Mantarys Protocols during the whole F!Renly fiasco, if that gives you any indication of what levels of paranoia we're talking about here.
 
Deliste said:
I love it.

I was going to suggest multiple encounter tables similar to what you hinted at having for Valyria loot tables. Not sure if it would also work with however you're taking this approach.

1/4CR for some areas, 1/2 for others maybe 2x for the obviously-not-supposed-to-be-here areas.
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If we are going under and over level I can just decide organically what could be there. So for instance Maelor, Glyra, Xor etc... might still find some challenging fights in relatively populated areas. However the main party will not unless it is clear directed enemy action, which will be quite rare.
 
Crake said:
We were talking about implementing Always-On Mantarys Protocols during the whole F!Renly fiasco, if that gives you any indication of what levels of paranoia we're talking about here.
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It still makes sense IC to do that, we just need to get the characters to internalise keeping an eye out like Viserys no longer skims the ocean.

I don't want to have to vote for it every time but if Devils and Demons exist you should be keeping an eye out for Imps and Quasits.
 
I never said Mantarys Protocols were a bad idea, just that normal people who aren't the party would regard it as overzealous pessimism about the state of the world, whereas the party would come to regard it as "common sense".

"There's always devils and demons spying on you and a dark magus scrying your position, evil spirits know your itinerary and rival sorcerers are aware and kept abreast of your current daily agenda."
 
Crake said:
I never said Mantarys Protocols were a bad idea, just that normal people who aren't the party would regard it as overzealous pessimism about the state of the world, whereas the party would come to regard it as "common sense".

"There's always devils and demons spying on you and a dark magus scrying your position, evil spirits know your itinerary and rival sorcerers are aware and kept abreast of your current daily agenda."
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You forgot the Elder Brain and Zherys divining what we will have for lunch.

The amount of espionage leveled at us reached rather ridiculous levels.
 
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Adhoc vote count started by DragonParadox on Jan 11, 2018 at 4:40 AM, finished with 294 posts and 11 votes.
  • [X] Haggle. Start at 100% profit rate, and allow Oberyn to bargain us down to 50% if he presses, but only so long as his total order does not require more than ten days of crafting. 100% profit on anything that exceeds ten days.
    -[X] No Adamant
    [X] Haggle. Start at 100% profit rate, and allow Oberyn to bargain us down to 50% if he presses, but only so long as his total order does not require more than ten days of crafting. 100% profit on anything that exceeds ten days. No Mithral or Adamantine armor or weapons.
    [X] The Basilisk Principality: You rule over newly-colonized territory in wild Sothoryos. Expect giant murderous gribblies of all sorts, and you've just been handed this Top Secret filed titled "The Underdark". You wonder what it is...
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@Duesal, or anyone really, you're a living reference book. Do you know when Waymar acquired Purity and under which circumstances? I honestly forget.
 
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Part MDCIV: A Master's Craft
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    • A Master's Craft​

    Fifteenth Day of the Twelfth Month 292 AC

    Having settled your business with Oberyn to both your satisfaction, you add a small pile of Dornish minted golden dragons to your treasury while the Viper admires the gleaming true-silver armor Lya crafted for him by sorcery alone. By contrast Nymeria was content with a small circle of silver to ward against dark things and a pair of fine daggers crafted by the lesser mage-smiths of the Deep. Both, however, wear gloves of fine eel-skin bespelled by Leila to hold something of the creatures' swiftness.

    Lost 1800 Gold worth of Crafting Materials


    Gained 3000 Gold

    You smile a little, recalling the young woman's reaction to Oberyn's charm. Rather than the habitual shyness around armed strangers or even the fascination she had shown with Salladhor Saan, Leila had been almost blisteringly business-like. Something about the Red Viper seems to rub her entirely the wrong way. For his part you do not think the Dornishman had any true designs upon her, not beyond those he has on any pretty face that holds his attention for more than a moment.

    "...two of them, if you can believe it," Tyene was saying in a fondly exasperated tone over breakfast.

    Seeing Garin laugh and even Ser Richard smile slightly, you ask, "Two of what?"

    "Do you remember those fiend blooded corsairs we rescued from their former employers?" she asks.

    "Your father hired some of them?" Hardly surprising now that you think about it. They know more than most of magic and fiends, and you have no true hold on their loyally...

    "In a manner of speaking. He has been keeping company with two. I suppose Maelor is not that bad," she sighs dramatically.

    "There is no guarantee that any child born of such a union will show fiend blood," you remind her, amused.

    ***​

    Later that day you are met with an odd but welcome request for an audience. A tinker fey bearing a golden monocle arrives in the company of a man sweating under the weight of an enormous crossbow. Though the weapon is obviously far too ungainly for a man to wield, it is obviously finely crafted, the double arch of fine pattered steel promising swift death, the stock carves with images of charging bulls amid twisting scrollwork.

    "Here is the work... better than Myrman work... much much better," the little fey says, almost squeaking in excitement. Then he visibly collects himself. "Prince of men, we are ready to arm the great horned ones with such weapons one and all."

    Do you buy masterwork double crossbows for the minotaurs?

    [] Yes
    -[] Write in how many (Cost 20 Gold each)

    [] No

    OOC: Next up heading North.
     
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    • HELL YES WE DO.

    [X] Yes
    -[X] One for every one which has comported himself to Richard's satisfaction (the ones with Fighter levels. No sense wasting gold on the unruly).
     
    @DragonParadox
    How soon are we for a new batch of mages finishing their education in scholarum?
    Same question about tritons we voted to get

    On the other note, I feel that this new change to balance will greatly lessen amounts of salt generated by thread, so - thank you.


    [X] Yes
    -[X] One for every one which has comported himself to Richard's satisfaction (the ones with Fighter levels. No sense wasting gold on the unruly).
     
    egoo said:
    @DragonParadox
    How soon are we for a new batch of mages finishing their education in scholarum?
    Same question about tritons we voted to get

    On the other note, I feel that this new change to balance will greatly lessen amounts of salt generated by thread, so - thank you.


    [X] Yes
    -[X] One for every one which has comported himself to Richard's satisfaction (the ones with Fighter levels. No sense wasting gold on the unruly).
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    There's an increasing chance every month and once it happens the odds reset.
     
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