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A Sword Without a Hilt: A Song of Ice and Fire/D&D 3.5 Crossover
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Can't speak for anyone else but I'd straight up stop playing.
I wouldn't even really want to play as Dany in anything more but an arc to return Viserys.
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I agree with this. Stopping a Viserys POV would be a strong incentive for me to quit. (I wouldn't actually quit since I can't just walk away from being a beta, but I would be super upset nonetheless). I'm way too attached to Viserys as a character.
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I wouldn't stop playing, but I would be very disappointed. Both because I'm very attached to the character at this point and because of what brought me here in the first place.
I actually found this quest because I was in an ASOIAF recommendation thread on another site and someone in it was pitching an absolute fit about someone daring to make a quest about trying to redeem Viserys Targaryen. They were being such an annoyance about it I decided to see if I liked it just to spite them.
Retiring Viserys would make that person happy, and there is a little spite filled part of me that would be sad about that.
I actually found this quest because I was in an ASOIAF recommendation thread on another site and someone in it was pitching an absolute fit about someone daring to make a quest about trying to redeem Viserys Targaryen. They were being such an annoyance about it I decided to see if I liked it just to spite them.
Retiring Viserys would make that person happy, and there is a little spite filled part of me that would be sad about that.
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Stannis would fit pretty well with Yss now that I think about it... what with the whole take your fingers, give you a knighthood style of thinking...
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Cannon shows he's open to religious conversion, and Yss fits him way better than Burny ever would.
Edit: Also not that I think it would make a difference, but I don't think Yss has anything specifically against Kin Slaying and old Bobby B clearly ain't holding up his end of the whole 'fealty to the King means you get the King's protection' deal.
Just saying.
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I'm still waiting for the other shoe to drop. We haven't even seen Melissandre yet, and when we asked DP said this about her.
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She's Shadow Viserys/Greater Zherys!
But possibly with less infrastructure.
Goldfish
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Maybe we should just all agree to Alpha-Strike her the moment she appears, regardless of the consequences. No chance for her to screw with us, send Shadow Assassins, kill a party member, etc. Just full on nuke her.
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Should be interesting, on the one hand she could whisper poison into Stannis' ear if she thinks he's azor azai, on the other hand her relationship with the main branch of the burny faith always seemed shaky to me... lots of possibilities there, from shoring up Benerros' powerblock immensely within Volantis, to forming a whole splinter sect and conquering Asshai in his name.
Evaunit02mark1
S-s-smell the Prey, S-s-start the Hunt.
No argument from me, burn the bitch and salt the earth.
I wouldn't even try to save her for sacrifice, just kill her and make damn sure she stays dead.
Some things are better off as ash and dust.
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Found a spell we should consider having Dany prepare.
Greater Stunning Barrier
And teach to Lya.
Then have Lya imbue into a Page of Spell Knowledge for Viserys.
Would pair up very nicely with Agonizing Mass Fire Shield.
Greater Stunning Barrier
And teach to Lya.
Then have Lya imbue into a Page of Spell Knowledge for Viserys.
Would pair up very nicely with Agonizing Mass Fire Shield.
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Just with a face.
Just finished backreading and why the heck has the thread been so salty lately? We need a distraction...
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As @Artemis1992 pointed out earlier today, Dany won't actually be able to cast 7th level spells until she reaches 15th level, due to her PrC's caster level dips.
What if, instead of picking up Dreamweaver for her 14th level, we instead choose a level of Cloistered Cleric, or an entirely different PrC? We can then pick Dreamweaver back up at 15th level and finish the progression for the PrC. It would delay some of her better PrC features, but it would get us 7th level Divine spells much, much faster, including such gems as Regeneration, Resurrection, and Destruction.
Destruction, BTW, is the go-to spell to use to kill someone if you want to make it extremely difficult to Resurrect them.
What if, instead of picking up Dreamweaver for her 14th level, we instead choose a level of Cloistered Cleric, or an entirely different PrC? We can then pick Dreamweaver back up at 15th level and finish the progression for the PrC. It would delay some of her better PrC features, but it would get us 7th level Divine spells much, much faster, including such gems as Regeneration, Resurrection, and Destruction.
Destruction, BTW, is the go-to spell to use to kill someone if you want to make it extremely difficult to Resurrect them.
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@Goldfish, I'm actually going to actively campaign against getting the last level of Dreamweaver. It makes her an Outsider, and we all saw in Lys how far Dany takes the extremes of alignments, and we got outright confirmation from DP that going to the extreme with alignment is Dany's own version of Targ madness. Taking that very last level of Dreamweaver just makes all of that worse.
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After we get Maelor and Glyra back, or fetch them for it;
Festival.
Xor puts on a preformance in the Stadium thing. (let locals know it's Xor so they can shush panicky visitors)
Illusion magics and buffs from the party.
Top it off with another update or two where we make some dragonglass glasses for the fey to put on a good spread for a small party in the Tavern with our friends before we head to pick up our mother's bones.
Have a good time for two days. We cleared up a bit ahead of schedule.
Chat to the new guy. Give him an adimantium dagger incase he needs to cut through stuff. And a PfE.
Ask him about laws, if he has had an oppertunity to glance at wider context. If he hasn't, just chat to him about stuff.
Talk to Alinor.
Actually speak to Ser Gerold onscreen. Mention about how we're currently running an expiremental procedure on Waymar (as he knows), and after we see how it goes, we can offer it to him or he can wait longer untill party's abalties reach the level of the healing spell that was designed for the task.
Thread salt has been unusally high, and I think it could be alleviated by having an ingame day or two and inthread 2-3 days of day-in-the-life.
Pepper it with a few interludes from people talking to the MC, (party members, maybe not). A few random citizens - what ever happened to that woman who threw human waste out her window near Alinor amd Viserys.
What about the merchant that had all of his oysters bought at once by a Minotaur!?
Or more reasonably, one of Yss's adepts, or a mageling or the areana adventurers.
Or more poignantly, one of the abberation tainted servants or new little valerians who had been in a cage.
Or what about the old blind ex ex ex (ex?) slave. Did he get healing from Tyene? How did he react to Xor?
Festival.
Xor puts on a preformance in the Stadium thing. (let locals know it's Xor so they can shush panicky visitors)
Illusion magics and buffs from the party.
Top it off with another update or two where we make some dragonglass glasses for the fey to put on a good spread for a small party in the Tavern with our friends before we head to pick up our mother's bones.
Have a good time for two days. We cleared up a bit ahead of schedule.
Chat to the new guy. Give him an adimantium dagger incase he needs to cut through stuff. And a PfE.
Ask him about laws, if he has had an oppertunity to glance at wider context. If he hasn't, just chat to him about stuff.
Talk to Alinor.
Actually speak to Ser Gerold onscreen. Mention about how we're currently running an expiremental procedure on Waymar (as he knows), and after we see how it goes, we can offer it to him or he can wait longer untill party's abalties reach the level of the healing spell that was designed for the task.
Thread salt has been unusally high, and I think it could be alleviated by having an ingame day or two and inthread 2-3 days of day-in-the-life.
Pepper it with a few interludes from people talking to the MC, (party members, maybe not). A few random citizens - what ever happened to that woman who threw human waste out her window near Alinor amd Viserys.
What about the merchant that had all of his oysters bought at once by a Minotaur!?
Or more reasonably, one of Yss's adepts, or a mageling or the areana adventurers.
Or more poignantly, one of the abberation tainted servants or new little valerians who had been in a cage.
Or what about the old blind ex ex ex (ex?) slave. Did he get healing from Tyene? How did he react to Xor?
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Meant to @you in, sorry for double post.
This will also give you more time to further consider and (if you like) discuss methods of better dealing with the interface between D&D and ASoIaF if you want it.
Meant to @you in, sorry for double post.
This will also give you more time to further consider and (if you like) discuss methods of better dealing with the interface between D&D and ASoIaF if you want it.
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Hey @Goldfish @TotallyNotEvil and anyone else familiar with D&D, so for Dany's polymorph forms like the Silver Dragon, when she's in those forms she still receives the benefit of having an Amulet of PfE, right? Immunity to possession and mental control? +2 to AC vs Evil?
Actually, it might end up being worse: she could try to help us. Think about it. We are a male prince extremely associated with fire who has been generally going around being not-a-dick (TM) to people and dealing with their supernatural problems. I could easily see Melisandre believing that we are Azor Ahai.
Evaunit02mark1
S-s-smell the Prey, S-s-start the Hunt.
We're happily married/engaged/shacked up thank you very much.
Like that old hag could hold a candle to Lya.
I Scoff with derision, Scoff I say!
Crake
I AM THE STORM THAT IS APPROACHING
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Right, I couldn't get as involved in discussion because I was at work, but--
You've got a fundamental misunderstanding of what Outsiders are like. Mortal creatures are fundamentally more mentally unstable, because all aspects of their being, body, mind and the planar energies they connect to are transient and ever changing. Which is why Outsiders cannot change alignment without interaction from other axiomatic/good/evil sources, conceptually speaking. It's a matter of instability and stability, not absolutism. See the flexibility the more hidebound archons exhibited.
Right now, Targaryen madness is something that effects a comparatively frail, mortal mind, manifesting in no absolute terms or manner. Rhaegar was hardly as instable as Viserys in canon, but the melancholy was obviously his "extreme", just like Aerys' paranoia and Viserys' insatiable pride (all likely a security mechanism to help them cope with the harsh world).
Turning into an Outsider would make Dany less mentally unstable.