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A Sword Without a Hilt: A Song of Ice and Fire/D&D 3.5 Crossover

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das_slash said:
It bothers me a bit that the Devils remember who messed with their plans,but not that we slew a Lord of hell and made them run like little bitches.
We are going to have to track down another infestation and slay them all to remind them.
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Despite DP's insinuation that the Devil had come for us, Renly might have been the target all along. Given the short notice for our trip, and recent arrival to the island, it would be quite odd for the Devil to have been able to track us down. It can only use Greater Teleport 1/Day and doesn't have any special Divination abilities, nor do any other Devils that I can think of. It makes much more sense for the Renplacement to have been the target all along.
 
Also, I just thought of this, but...

No matter which Renly, they all have a bad habit of getting stabbed from behind by creepy shadow monsters, don't they?

@Goldfish Renly may have been the always intended target, but he wasn't the target in of itself. It had to have been tracking Renly for weeks if not months by this point, and why wait until parley when it would have had ample time to sneak in and kill Renly, not even in front of others, but when nobody was watching him?

We were the indirect intended target. Maybe there were net benefits to Renly being dead too that they could profit from, but not nearly as good as the prospect of hindering us personally.

Hell has its priorities in order. Of all the men with influence or potential to gain influence in the Seven Kingdoms, where they are trying to reap a harvest off of, we're the only ones with their heads not stuck too far up their asses and the power sufficient to wipe them out of existence should we find them out of position, like they were in White Harbor.
 
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Goldfish said:
Despite DP's insinuation that the Devil had come for us, Renly might have been the target all along. Given the short notice for our trip, and recent arrival to the island, it would be quite odd for the Devil to have been able to track us down. It can only use Greater Teleport 1/Day and doesn't have any special Divination abilities, nor do any other Devils that I can think of. It makes much more sense for the Renplacement to have been the target all along.
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It could even be after both of you... It's more than smart enough to understand how getting two birds with one stone works.

Anyway, good night guys.
 
Devils! So annoying!

At leat if we fleshcraft devils the modifications stay..

Next I'm gonna vote for putting it's head on a turtle and a turtle head on it's body.
 
Diomedon said:
I thought that might be the case. Our lack of Knowledge (Nobility and Royalty) is biting us a bit.
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Speaking of skills I think we should pump Intelligence prior to Full Dragon Reset.

Each +1 modifier gets us 18 skill points at the time of transformation (4*lvl1+14*1 levels.)

Kinda too good too pass up, 1 modifier bonus should get us a base point in each Knowledge skill I think.
 
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... So an invisible assassin devil (who just so happened to know about our randomly chosen location for our somewhat impromptu meeting) sneaks up on us and suddenly starts trouble with the people who wrecked a lord of hell by doing the thing most likely to assassinate not us, but our reputation, a thing which the player base values super highly. Out of nowhere, at if not the literal worst possible moment, certainly close.

I mean if you want to go full Diabolus ex Machina, I guess using literal devils is the classy way to do so.
 
tenchifew said:
True seeing is actually a minute/level.
It might still have expired, of course, but it is not that short lasting.

True Seeing :: d20srd.org
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The Earrings Viserys, Garin, and Richard have only allow 1 minute of True Seeing per day if you use all three charges. It's not much, but it's much, much cheaper than an item that casts a regular True Seeing spell.
 
DragonParadox said:
It could even be after both of you... It's more than smart enough to understand how getting two birds with one stone works.
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Unfortunately it's not smart enough to add 1 pissed off Half-dragon+1 Murder Knight+1 Half vampire Assasin+1 Poison master=A group of very vengeful fuckers who, even if you manage to escape the first time, will hunt you down and skin you alive on principle alone but not before taking everything of value that you have and then using that to further destroy your hopes and dreams.
 
@Artemis1992 I get why you chose to use Suggestion with GSE, but we have better options. Greater Shadow Enchantment gives access to Enchantment spells on not just the Sor/Wiz spell list, but the Psychic spell list as well, which includes the 5th level spell Greater Command.

[X] Viserys casts Nerveskitter on Tyene.
-[X] Tyene casts Close Wounds on the Renplacement, then casts Blindsight on Viserys.
--[X] If Tyene casts Blindsight on Viserys before his turn in the Initiative order comes up, and it allows him to see the Devil, he targets it with Baleful Polymorph, transforming it into a turtle. If it resists, he casts Celerity and another Baleful Polymorph spell.
--[X] If Viserys comes before Tyene in the Initiative order despite the Nerveskitter effect, he uses Greater Shadow Enchantment to duplicate a Greater Command spell, ordering everyone except for Richard, Garin, and Tyene to Halt.
-[X] If Viserys turtles the Devil, Richard moves to subdue Criston non-lethally, though maiming is not frowned upon. If Viserys instead Halts everyone, Richard activates his Earring's See Invisibility power and moves to carve the Devil into sushi.
-[X] Garin continues trying to murder the Devil, unless Viserys successfully turtles it.
 
Crake said:
Also, I just thought of this, but...

No matter which Renly, they all have a bad habit of getting stabbed from behind by creepy shadow monsters, don't they?

@Goldfish Renly may have been the always intended target, but he wasn't the target in of itself. It had to have been tracking Renly for weeks if not months by this point, and why wait until parley when it would have had ample time to sneak in and kill Renly, not even in front of others, but when nobody was watching him?

We were the indirect intended target. Maybe there were net benefits to Renly being dead too that they could profit from, but not nearly as good as the prospect of hindering us personally.

Hell has its priorities in order. Of all the men with influence or potential to gain influence in the Seven Kingdoms, where they are trying to reap a harvest off of, we're the only ones with their heads not stuck too far up their asses and the power sufficient to wipe them out of existence should we find them out of position, like they were in White Harbor.
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I agree with you for the most part but Faerenly has his own threat to the fiends, he is linked to the Fey.

All magical coalitions would be fighting for their position on the mortal plane.

I do think we would in general be a priority target because we stick our noses in outside of our land but next on the list is likely the Fey and anything else that can at least pretend to be an ally to man.

We know they also clash with the Deep Ones but that bunch of cunts is so heinous they only compete for territory and resources, they aren't in a competition of methodology ala bargains and temptation as the Fey, and funnily, Viserys is.
 
dpara said:
Devils! So annoying!

At leat if we fleshcraft devils the modifications stay..

Next I'm gonna vote for putting it's head on a turtle and a turtle head on it's body.
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No no no, you must use humiliation and focus points of derision so when we are not around others will do it for us.

If it has wings, replace them with a pigeons wings so they are useless and representative of its vermin status to be derided by it's peers.

No matter how powerful there will be Imps/Quasits that can and will talk shit because they still have their real wings.

Claws with the blunt nubs of a domesticated dog.

Replace it's fangs with the grind plates of a herbivore.

Fiery eyes with the watery gaze of a dugong.

You do not take away, that is too clean.
Corrupt them, turn them into a twisted mirror of their former selves.
 
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[X] Goldfish
Adhoc vote count started by Deliste on Jan 4, 2018 at 6:00 PM, finished with 135535 posts and 15 votes.
  • [X] Viserys casts Nerveskitter, Imperious Glare, Celerity and a Suggestion from Greater Shadow Enchantment to suggest that it stand and fight, what rewards it would earn from bringing our head to its master.
    -[X] Tyene Reaches a healing spell at Renly
    -[X] Garin attacks it further Richard uses See Invisibility before joining in
    [X] Viserys casts Nerveskitter on Tyene.
    -[X] Tyene casts Close Wounds on the Renplacement, then casts Blindsight on Viserys.
    --[X] If Tyene casts Blindsight on Viserys before his turn in the Initiative order comes up, and it allows him to see the Devil, he targets it with Baleful Polymorph, transforming it into a turtle. If it resists, he casts Celerity and another Baleful Polymorph spell.
    --[X] If Viserys comes before Tyene in the Initiative order despite the Nerveskitter effect, he uses Greater Shadow Enchantment to duplicate a Greater Command spell, ordering everyone except for Richard, Garin, and Tyene to Halt.
    -[X] If Viserys turtles the Devil, Richard moves to subdue Criston non-lethally, though maiming is not frowned upon. If Viserys instead Halts everyone, Richard activates his Earring's See Invisibility power and moves to carve the Devil into sushi.
    -[X] Garin continues trying to murder the Devil, unless Viserys successfully turtles it.
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Azel said:
Alright. We go to Dis after this and file for a cease and desist with that things vital fluids.
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Deliste said:
Speaking of skills I think we should pump Intelligence prior to Full Dragon Reset.

Each +1 modifier gets us 18 skill points at the time of transformation (4*lvl1+14*1 levels.)

Kinda too good too pass up, 1 modifier bonus should get us a base point in each Knowledge skill I think.
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Yeah, I mentioned it a bunch. Getting a +1 Manual of Clear Thought is nigh mandatory before we hit 15th.
tenchifew said:
True seeing is actually a minute/level.
It might still have expired, of course, but it is not that short lasting.

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Downside is a mere 1 minute duration for all charges.

Upside is that you get an item that can grant a ton of Darkvision, decent See Invisibility or a bit of True Seeing for a dirt-cheap 3400 gp.
Goldfish said:
--[X] If Tyene casts Blindsight on Viserys before his turn in the Initiative order comes up, and it allows him to see the Devil, he targets it with Baleful Polymorph, transforming it into a turtle. If it resists, he casts Celerity and another Baleful Polymorph spell.
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I'd rather Dimensional Anchor him.

If he can't teleport, he is fucked. He can't fly, Fog Cloud won't save him from Blindsense from Viserys, much less Oathkeeper.
 
@Goldfish

Blindsight will do nothing against Darkstalker.

Dimensional Anchor could work if you can pinpoint the square, it would just have a miss chance, not great but it's not uncastable as some were saying.
 
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