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A Sword Without a Hilt: A Song of Ice and Fire/D&D 3.5 Crossover

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DragonParadox said:
The Hidden Blades​

Ser Criston is nothing if not dogged in his purpose. "Honor, is it?" he asks. "A sellsword in the east he was for years. What honor does a such a man have?" Looking directly at Tyene he adds, "No more than a whore."

Without thought your hands tense, the words of sorcery in your thoughts, almost upon your lips, to chastise this wretch...
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So I'm not too sure what spell he would have used.
But @DragonParadox, for the record (in case this happens again), this is the kind of occasion that calls for a Baleful Polymorph. Preferably into a whore, or at least an adult female Gnome, maybe?
Yeah, do that and add a quip along the lines of "a whore you shall be" to make it a little clearer :D
 
TotallyNotEvil said:
I'd rather Dimensional Anchor him.

If he can't teleport, he is fucked. He can't fly, Fog Cloud won't save him from Blindsense from Viserys, much less Oathkeeper.
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I agree with this. In this case I value the devil being dead far more than I value getting a sacrifice or getting information. I want no chances of this thing slipping away.
 
[X] Goldfish

You know, just once it would be nice to NOT have some kind of ultra inconvenient random encounter sprung on us in naked defiance of all that is realistic. You know, just to shake things up a little.
 
Viserys Targaryen
Level: 13 (85227/91000 XP)
XP Needed to Advance a Level: 5773 XP <----- Not happening

Ser Richard Lonmouth
Level: 12 (76790/78000 XP)
XP Needed to Advance a Level: 1210 XP <----- Kinda close, but a bit of a longshot for a CR 11 devil

Garin Drekelis
Level: 11 (+1ECL) (65037/66000 XP)
XP Needed to Advance a Level: 963 XP <----- Super fucking close

Tyene Sand
Level: 11 (62829/66000 XP)
XP Needed to Advance a Level: 3171 XP <----- Not happening
 
Deliste said:
@Goldfish

Blindsight will do nothing against Darkstalker.

Dimensional Anchor could work if you can pinpoint the square, it would just have a miss chance, not great but it's not uncastable as some were saying.
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Not quite true. Viserys will be required to make a Listen check with a +15 bonus against the Dogoi's +26 Move Silently bonus. Not exactly good odds, but not insurmountable. Luck can be on our side for once.

TotallyNotEvil said:
I'd rather Dimensional Anchor him.

If he can't teleport, he is fucked. He can't fly, Fog Cloud won't save him from Blindsense from Viserys, much less Oathkeeper.
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Plan updated with insights from TNE and Deliste.

[X] Viserys casts Nerveskitter on Tyene.
-[X] Tyene casts Close Wounds on the Renplacement, then casts Blindsight on Viserys.
--[X] If Tyene casts Blindsight on Viserys before his turn in the Initiative order comes up, and he is able to pinpoint the Devil's location, he targets it with Baleful Polymorph, transforming it into a turtle. If it resists, he casts Celerity and targets it with a Dimensional Anchor spell. If it fails to resist, Viserys uses Greater Shadow Enchantment as detailed below.
--[X] If Viserys comes before Tyene in the Initiative order despite the Nerveskitter effect, or he fails to locate the Devil sufficiently to target it, he uses Greater Shadow Enchantment to duplicate a Greater Command spell, ordering everyone except for Richard, Garin, and Tyene to Halt.
-[X] If Viserys turtles the Devil, Richard moves to subdue Criston non-lethally, though maiming is not frowned upon. If Viserys instead Halts everyone, Richard activates his Earring's See Invisibility power and moves to carve the Devil into sushi.
-[X] Garin continues trying to murder the Devil, unless Viserys successfully turtles it.
 
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Goldfish said:
--[X] If Tyene casts Blindsight on Viserys before his turn in the Initiative order comes up, and he is able to pinpoint the Devil's location, he targets it with Baleful Polymorph, transforming it into a turtle. If it resists, he casts Celerity and targets it with a Dimensional Anchor spell.
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Why not Dim Door -> Baleful Polymorph or another Dim Door if it didn't work?
 
Goldfish said:
Not quite true. Viserys will be required to make a Listen check with a +15 bonus against the Dogoi's +26 Move Silently bonus. Not exactly good odds, but not insurmountable. Luck can be on our side for once.
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Blindsense gives the same opportunity but it adds 10 feet I guess.

I'm not sure you can polymorph a square though.
 
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Duesal said:
Ser Richard Lonmouth
Level: 12 (76790/78000 XP)
XP Needed to Advance a Level: 1210 XP <----- Kinda close, but a bit of a longshot for a CR 11 devil

Garin Drekelis
Level: 11 (+1ECL) (65037/66000 XP)
XP Needed to Advance a Level: 963 XP <----- Super fucking close

Tyene Sand
Level: 11 (62829/66000 XP)
XP Needed to Advance a Level: 3171 XP <----- Not happening
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Actually Cr 13, I think.

Dragon Paradox mentioned that it has 2 Assassin character levels.
 
TotallyNotEvil said:
Why not Dim Door -> Baleful Polymorph or another Dim Door if it didn't work?
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Trying to decide which to target, the Dogoi's +13 Fortitude save (assuming it only has the 2 levels of Assassin DP mentioned) or it's Touch AC of 19, which could be higher depending on the Devil's gear and any other special abilities.

Viserys' Baleful Polymorph will have a save DC of 23 and he only has a +9 bonus on ranged attacks.
 
Deliste said:
@Goldfish @TotallyNotEvil

Guys we can't use targeted spells due to pinpointing, you can only target the 5ft square.
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If Viserys successfully uses Blindsight and Listen against the Dogoi's Darkstalker and much reduced Move Silently skill (thanks to being in combat with Garin), he wouldn't be pinpointing it, but essentially seeing it, as if using his own eyes. Blindsight is much more precise than Blindsense.
 
Goldfish said:
and he only has a +9 bonus on ranged attacks.
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And, Ser Broadside of House Barn, we meet again, at last.
Deliste said:
@Goldfish @TotallyNotEvil

Guys we can't use targeted spells due to pinpointing, you can only target the 5ft square.
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Ray: Some effects are rays. You aim a ray as if using a ranged weapon, though typically you make a ranged touch attack rather than a normal ranged attack. As with a ranged weapon, you can fire into the dark or at an invisible creature and hope you hit something. You don't have to see the creature you're trying to hit, as you do with a targeted spell. Intervening creatures and obstacles, however, can block your line of sight or provide cover for the creature you're aiming at.
 
TotallyNotEvil said:
And, Ser Broadside of House Barn, we meet again, at last.

Ray: Some effects are rays. You aim a ray as if using a ranged weapon, though typically you make a ranged touch attack rather than a normal ranged attack. As with a ranged weapon, you can fire into the dark or at an invisible creature and hope you hit something. You don't have to see the creature you're trying to hit, as you do with a targeted spell. Intervening creatures and obstacles, however, can block your line of sight or provide cover for the creature you're aiming at.
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Yes?

I did say we can use rays. Like Dimensional Anchor.

Goldfish said:
If Viserys successfully uses Blindsight and Listen against the Dogoi's Darkstalker and much reduced Move Silently skill (thanks to being in combat with Garin), he wouldn't be pinpointing it, but essentially seeing it, as if using his own eyes. Blindsight is much more precise than Blindsense.
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I'd Goldfish is right then you can use Baleful Polymorph but it isn't a ray so if he's wrong, we can't.
 
Given the Dogoi's high saves and very high Touch AC, I wonder if we wouldn't be better off just locking down all of the Renplacement's knights and allowing Garin and Richard to deal with it?

The Dogoi can only use Greater Teleport once per day. There is a chance it has already done so today, limiting it to using its at will Dimension Door SLA.

Even if it does manage to Teleport away, we have its blood now. There will be no escape unless it hides under wards on the other side of the planet or evacuates off plane.

What about this, ya'll?

[] Viserys casts Nerveskitter on himself, then uses Greater Shadow Enchantment to duplicate a Greater Command spell, ordering everyone except for Richard, Garin, and Tyene to Halt. If any knights, or the Dogoi resist the Halt Command, he casts Celerity and repeats the Command.
-[] Tyene casts Close Wounds on the Renplacement, then casts Blindsight on Viserys.
-[] Garin casts Wraithstrike as a Swift Action then continues to engage the Dogoi in combat.
-[] Richard activates uses his Earring to gain See Invisibility and moves to assist Garin against the Dogoi.
 
Goldfish said:
Given the Dogoi's high saves and very high Touch AC, I wonder if we wouldn't be better off just locking down all of the Renplacement's knights and allowing Garin and Richard to deal with it?

The Dogoi can only use Greater Teleport once per day. There is a chance it has already done so today, limiting it to using its at will Dimension Door SLA.

Even if it does manage to Teleport away, we have its blood now. There will be no escape unless it hides under wards on the other side of the planet or evacuates off plane.

What about this, ya'll?

[] Viserys casts Nerveskitter on himself, then uses Greater Shadow Enchantment to duplicate a Greater Command spell, ordering everyone except for Richard, Garin, and Tyene to Halt. If any knights, or the Dogoi resist the Halt Command, he casts Celerity and repeats the Command.
-[] Tyene casts Close Wounds on the Renplacement, then casts Blindsight on Viserys.
-[] Garin casts Wraithstrike as a Swift Action then continues to engage the Dogoi in combat.
-[] Richard activates uses his Earring to gain See Invisibility and moves to assist Garin against the Dogoi.
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I like it.

I already planned to question this knight of Faerenly's at his particularly inconvenient timing so we have the excuse for full bind everyone and it might even give us a bonus to credibility of the accusation.
 
Good tactics Goldfish, but I'm sad that once again Viserys is stuck on support duty while others fight the main threat.
 
Some none Devil related thoughts on the chapter:

DragonParadox said:
"Loyal," he spits. "The only thing the craven was loyal to was his own skin, knowing the king would kill him for a traitor. My brother Yohn, all of two-and-ten, died of a gut wound while he fled..."
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Calling Richard craven is rather rich. What exactly was he fleeing from back then? He certainly got a lot more badass while travelling with Viserys, but I can't really imagine him fleeing from anything short of certain death even before.
I would also love to know more about the circumstances of his "abandoning his dying squire".

DragonParadox said:
"Honor, is it?" he asks. "A sellsword in the east he was for years. What honor does a such a man have?"
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No more or less then most knights in Westeros. And let it be reiterated here that starting this whole spat in the middle of a parley would probably not fly among sellswords. They have far less qualms about removing the stupid the second it manifests.

DragonParadox said:
Looking directly at Tyene he adds, "No more than a whore."
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Oh, come on. Now you are just begging for it.

DragonParadox said:
"Enough!" the lord of Storm's End shouts over the gathering din, saving the fool from a most unfortunate fate. "End your quarrel with steel if you must, but by the Father I swear that if you would make new ones than I shall be among that number." Angry as you are, the oath invoking one of the Seven strikes an odd cord. The fey would never speak of gods thus.
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Ten points to Fenly.

DragonParadox said:
"Will you besmirch the duel with witchery" Ser Criston calls, fear clear beneath disdain now.
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This is really rich after calling Richard craven. Seems he thought the parley would protect him from the consequences of running his mouth at us.


Long story short, I dearly hope the Devil didn't just accidentally save that muppets life.
 
TotallyNotEvil said:
Why not Imperious Glare then?
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Because the Halt Command should be just as effective, but doesn't instill terror in the Renplacement's knights without good reason. They aren't our enemies yet, except that douchebag Richard is dealing with, so there's no point in being dicks to them. If DP rules that GSE can't duplicate Greater Command for some reason, I'll change it to Imperious Glare.
 
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